Posted May 05, 2015
worked! thasnks
lefantome89
New User
Registered: Jan 2009
From Italy
Grargar
Insert cat to continue
Registered: Aug 2012
From Greece
Posted May 05, 2015
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See how many have installers dated 25-26 February (including Alien Breed).
aquaSolus
⏰ ¡ Lo que me dices… ya no lo crees ! ⏰
Registered: Dec 2013
From Canada
Posted May 05, 2015
high rated
Say you made yourself a cosy little place which very much feels like home – there's a shelf there, a wooden shelf, and there's all sorts of games placed on that shelf, and just looking at it, just looking at them, it's a joy in itself.
But then, someone "in charge" wreaks havoc in your cosy little place. Multiple boxes "unbundled" all over. Derelict naming. Lazy, cloned covers – some with erroneous titles, even. Cryptic bonuses. Broken links. Not to mention brand new bugs introduced by this 2-weeks-long-gone-7-weeks-awry unbundling (someone posted about missing "NEW" tags on games never yet downloaded – well I've got that since March 20th at least).
And to add insult to injury, the operating team clearly do no mind that much, as this very {IMPORTANT NOTICE: Unbundling games} thread testifies.
Now, dare we complain – if only for the bugs ? Dare we ? Dare we... ;) Well, many did – mrkgnao being the main constructive voice, but you may check posts by JaqFrost or Shendue (among many others).
The answer ? Ominous, resounding silence – with occasional chirps from Ciris and some email variations of "As I'm sure you are aware, we are currently working on a new, revamped version of the Account section, which should address all known issues." Issues that didn't exist before the unbundling, mind you – but who cares (and this particular email quote comes from Firek, no less – THE Support Chief himself). There you go.
That cosy little place doesn't feel so cosy anymore...
Perhaps folks like PixelBoy should cave in, and just get on once again with shelf rearranging – because, after all...
Lo and behold, that cosy little place just doesn't feel like a home anymore – which is the best thing that could happen, actually. Indeed, how foolish to have even felt at home in a store ! Goodness gracious ! Things changed, thankfully... ;)
GOG is just another DRM-Free store to me, now. There is no personal level connection anymore – whether ethically (yes, I know it might be laughable in this day and age, but some of us still hold that as something to be praised and supported) or otherwise (its general warmth has consistently faded over the last year, so much so one gets to wonder if it's still the same store).
From the very unprofessional way they handled the unbundling, to the disgraceful PR spin of the {State of Customer Experience} news (while over here they were grossly disregarding the unbundling mess reports), they made it very clear that their house was not a home. And that's not to mention the blatant disingenuity of some Ciris' posts (we're doing this for you my darlings VS we're enforcing that for the upcoming Galaxy so swallow it) – complete with her now infamous passive-agressive ;) trademark.
Well, rejoice ! Neither do I anymore. One big difference, perhaps : you have a Steam account, and I never will... ;)
There is a clear, ongoing shift in GOG's customer base. I remember the following from paladin181 regarding GOG's "ADD" behaviour...
Hum, perhaps not so wise, after all... ;)
And speaking of choices, it more and more feels like they exploit the DRM-free angle to push and justify everything else they've decided to do, and are doing. Definitely "not the person we married".
The really worrisome part now that trust has been lost is that an uneasy thought has surfaced - did they change somewhere down the road or were they always the person we see now?
Straight from today's {GOG Galaxy Beta starts now} news : "Today we deliver."
;)
Cheers !
mrkgnao
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HCZVCTO
Registered: Apr 2009
From United States
mvscot
Game Hoarder
Registered: Sep 2010
From United Kingdom
Posted May 05, 2015
But then, someone "in charge" wreaks havoc in your cosy little place. Multiple boxes "unbundled" all over. Derelict naming. Lazy, cloned covers – some with erroneous titles, even. Cryptic bonuses. Broken links. Not to mention brand new bugs introduced by this 2-weeks-long-gone-7-weeks-awry unbundling (someone posted about missing "NEW" tags on games never yet downloaded – well I've got that since March 20th at least).
And to add insult to injury, the operating team clearly do no mind that much, as this very {IMPORTANT NOTICE: Unbundling games} thread testifies.
But perhaps, just perhaps, if we stand strong together, we can weather this storm, ,just as we have weathered the storms of so many promising young, erm, salespersons in the past who have turned into uncaring faceless corporate entities, before we realise that, actually, the end is not nigh and we still have the fortitude to enjoy the occasional game we purchased, against all odds...
We still get to gripe copiously about the swathes of inconsistency and poorly thought-out delivery implementations, though, right?
coffeecup
GOG is dead.
Registered: Mar 2010
From Vatican City
Posted May 05, 2015
GOG is just another DRM-Free store to me, now. There is no personal level connection anymore – whether ethically (yes, I know it might be laughable in this day and age, but some of us still hold that as something to be praised and supported) or otherwise (its general warmth has consistently faded over the last year, so much so one gets to wonder if it's still the same store).
There are already signs for it, like the greyed out achievement thingy and the new download system which features steam-like in place downloading of the games and the installers are provided optionally.
Achievements (and multi player) via the GOG Galaxy client do need to have some connection to the Galaxy client. Perhaps they are working "offline", but I doubt this proposed turn off switch will work without its own share of problems.
Regarding the downloads ... well, they already stated that you can zip up these game directories but they don't promise stand-alone functionality. This is easily demonstrated with Beneath a Steel Sky, where you won't find an executable or premade link for starting the game, only a scummvm directory and a goggame-galaxyfilelist.ini which points outside of the game directory. When they phase out their installers, they also let resolve itself the directory naming problem and relieve themselves from packaging work.
Naturally, this won't happen over night, but by taking tiny steps and sitting it out until the minority of protesting customers don't have more energy to be vocal about it.
Oh naturally, they won't undo the unbundling ever.
Post edited May 05, 2015 by coffeecup
HiroshiMishima
Haunted Soul
Registered: Oct 2009
From United States
Posted May 05, 2015
Wait wait wait... if I'm reading some of these posts correctly, this whole unbundling bullshit is Galaxy's fault? Ugh, now I have yet another reason to dislike that stupid thing. So much for it being "optional", if it's affecting the normal system, too.
I miss the old, smaller GOG. When we never were concerned about shelf limits and unbundling, and games costing over $10.
I miss the old, smaller GOG. When we never were concerned about shelf limits and unbundling, and games costing over $10.
IAmSinistar
Queso de Espacio
Registered: May 2013
From United States
Posted May 05, 2015
Remember, at the heart of every galaxy is a supermassive black hole - the thing in the universe that sucks the most. ;)
HypersomniacLive
The Reluctant Voter
Registered: Sep 2011
From Vatican City
Posted May 05, 2015
high rated
Cheers, I was thinking of the physical bookshelf analogy myself; you did a much more eloquently job than I could ever do.
HiroshiMishima: Wait wait wait... if I'm reading some of these posts correctly, this whole unbundling bullshit is Galaxy's fault? Ugh, now I have yet another reason to dislike that stupid thing. So much for it being "optional", if it's affecting the normal system, too.
I miss the old, smaller GOG. When we never were concerned about shelf limits and unbundling, and games costing over $10. Of course you're not reading them correctly - the unbundling was done to please the overwhelming number of requests it had on the Wishlist at the time they announced it; 17 votes to be exact, in case you're wondering what that number was.
That it perfectly suits the needs of the Galaxy client functionality was a mere coincidence, and everyone at GOG did a happy dance after they overcame their initial big surprise of how well everything came together; something like a cherry on top thing.
I miss the old, smaller GOG. When we never were concerned about shelf limits and unbundling, and games costing over $10.
That it perfectly suits the needs of the Galaxy client functionality was a mere coincidence, and everyone at GOG did a happy dance after they overcame their initial big surprise of how well everything came together; something like a cherry on top thing.
john_hatcher
*CENSORED*
Registered: Oct 2012
From Sri Lanka
Posted May 06, 2015
Am i right when I say that the unbundling is over, because 2 weeks ago (see http://www.gog.com/forum/general/important_notice_unbundling_games/post1652/) Ciris said it would take 1 week?
Or is it as before "no single GOG staff gives a fuck"?
Or is it as before "no single GOG staff gives a fuck"?
moonshineshadow
Ghost
Registered: Sep 2011
From Switzerland
Posted May 06, 2015
Or is it as before "no single GOG staff gives a fuck"?
https://www.gog.com/account/refresh
john_hatcher
*CENSORED*
Registered: Oct 2012
From Sri Lanka
Posted May 06, 2015
Or is it as before "no single GOG staff gives a fuck"?
https://www.gog.com/account/refresh
mrkgnao
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HCZVCTO
Registered: Apr 2009
From United States
Posted May 06, 2015
I am not certain about that:
1) The warning message at the top of the library page is still there (but they may have forgotten about it)
2) Creatures Exodus, which was on the list, is still ununbundled (but they may have changed their minds about it)
3) Just recently they unbundled two games that were not on the list (Darks Forces II, Shadow Warrior 2013)
4) Assuming that "unbundling" is a code name for "library changes for Galaxy", they are updating many installers at the moment (e.g. free games last week, DLCs this week, etc.)
5) And the most important evidence that the unbundling might not be done --- people still complain about it...
1) The warning message at the top of the library page is still there (but they may have forgotten about it)
2) Creatures Exodus, which was on the list, is still ununbundled (but they may have changed their minds about it)
3) Just recently they unbundled two games that were not on the list (Darks Forces II, Shadow Warrior 2013)
4) Assuming that "unbundling" is a code name for "library changes for Galaxy", they are updating many installers at the moment (e.g. free games last week, DLCs this week, etc.)
5) And the most important evidence that the unbundling might not be done --- people still complain about it...
Post edited May 06, 2015 by mrkgnao
moonshineshadow
Ghost
Registered: Sep 2011
From Switzerland
Posted May 06, 2015
1) The warning message at the top of the library page is still there (but they may have forgotten about it)
2) Creatures Exodus, which was on the list, is still ununbundled (but they may have changed their minds about it)
3) Just recently they unbundled two games that were not on the list (Darks Forces II, Shadow Warrior 2013)
4) Assuming that "unbundling" is a code name for "library changes for Galaxy", they are updating many installers at the moment (e.g. free games last week, DLCs this week, etc.)
5) And the most important evidence that the unbundling might not be done --- people still complain about it...
I did not know about Creatures, I was under the impression that all the games on the list were unbundled. Therefore I assumed the finished status since I am not sure if anything will be done about all the other stuff.
john_hatcher
*CENSORED*
Registered: Oct 2012
From Sri Lanka
Posted May 06, 2015
1) The warning message at the top of the library page is still there (but they may have forgotten about it)
2) Creatures Exodus, which was on the list, is still ununbundled (but they may have changed their minds about it)
3) Just recently they unbundled two games that were not on the list (Darks Forces II, Shadow Warrior 2013)
4) Assuming that "unbundling" is a code name for "library changes for Galaxy", they are updating many installers at the moment (e.g. free games last week, DLCs this week, etc.)
5) And the most important evidence that the unbundling might not be done --- people still complain about it...
Maybe in 1 or 2 weeks some staff member will come by and say "sorry, forgot this and that and blablabla" like always. I'm sad about how GOG is treating their customers (at least me as a customer, but you can see that in a different way).