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Posted October 04, 2015
no clue
Posted October 04, 2015
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monkeydelarge: You can't because as a monkey, I'm a free citizen of this universe. :P

*flings poo at Leonard03*
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Barefoot_Monkey: Agreed. Everyone knows that monkeys are above the law.
You're no monkey! You're just an Ed! :P
Posted October 04, 2015
NSFW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1CGauwoKcw
Posted October 04, 2015
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Doc0075: Monkeys scare me...
Chimps are scary too!
Posted October 04, 2015
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DieRuhe: Personally I love them, but that was a Vampire Weekend reference.
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Crewdroog: ah. i will see myself out then....

:)

edit: and I do not like the oxford comma unless you really need it. 'and' is the comma!!!!
When I write book reviews I don't use them because the newspaper doesn't like them, but in everything else I write I do because to me it more closely follows the cadence of speaking.

I just read a good example. Say you're dedicating a book and you write "To my parents, Ayn Rand and God." To me, that's indicating that your parents are Ayn Rand and God. But if you write "To my parents, Ayn Rand, and God" there is no faulty interpretation. Of course, you could reverse the sentence to eliminate the ambiguity and the Oxford - "To Ayn Rand, God and my parents" so a lot of it comes down to how you actually construct sentences.

Seems there are a lot of well-known style guides that are pro-Oxford, but for some reason this often gets overlooked in favor the AP "no Oxford" approach.
Posted October 04, 2015
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Magnitus: Well, keep in mind that in an international setting, English is not the first language of many posters.

Some people are annoyingly lazy when they type, but nobody likes a language police.
This and the somehow not-so-tiny issue of some typing their messages on hand-held devices,..
Posted October 04, 2015
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Crewdroog: ah. i will see myself out then....

:)

edit: and I do not like the oxford comma unless you really need it. 'and' is the comma!!!!
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DieRuhe: When I write book reviews I don't use them because the newspaper doesn't like them, but in everything else I write I do because to me it more closely follows the cadence of speaking.

I just read a good example. Say you're dedicating a book and you write "To my parents, Ayn Rand and God." To me, that's indicating that your parents are Ayn Rand and God. But if you write "To my parents, Ayn Rand, and God" there is no faulty interpretation. Of course, you could reverse the sentence to eliminate the ambiguity and the Oxford - "To Ayn Rand, God and my parents" so a lot of it comes down to how you actually construct sentences.

Seems there are a lot of well-known style guides that are pro-Oxford, but for some reason this often gets overlooked in favor the AP "no Oxford" approach.
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i said unless you really need it, i know the examples. I am educated (this is grammar school stuff). lit people and writers are so pretentious. ;) hahahaha (joke, I am one of those people...)

further, the 'and' works as a comma, so the person will pause appropriately. Anyways, do you really pause any differently when you read the two sentences? I don't.

Besides, having a comma after and just looks cluttered. And what if you do believe Ayn Rand and god are your parents? huh? what then? ;) Context is also a big thing here. Your brain is an awesome organ and can figure out what the author meant. No one reading the sentence, "I'd like to thank my parents, Ayn Rand and God" for a minute thought the person meant that those two were his parents. You can't hear commas after 'and' in speech and no one is confused. Soooo, unnecessary! :)

Edit: I love how THIS is our big thing in the writing community. we are so weird. a comma? that's the big debate? lol
Post edited October 04, 2015 by Crewdroog
Posted October 04, 2015
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monkeydelarge: You can't because as a monkey, I'm a free citizen of this universe. :P

*flings poo at Leonard03*
*dodges like a ninja*
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Hardrada: Finally. It is about time someone started to enforce some standards around here. Feel free to expand your criteria for arresting people, the more the merrier.
You are very generous, I will keep it in mind.
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drealmer7: I almost never (this is the only time I've done it in memory, though I'm sure I've done it a few times before) click on a link without having an idea what it is or relates to. For some reason I did here, and I'm glad I did, thanks!!!
That's awesome.
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Magnitus: Well, keep in mind that in an international setting, English is not the first language of many posters.

Some people are annoyingly lazy when they type, but nobody likes a language police.
That is very true and I'm not trying to be mean to people who don't have English as a first language. But you can tell (or at least I can tell) when someone doesn't speak the language as well, or are just throwing grammar out the window.
I'm not police! I said citizen's arrest...
Post edited October 04, 2015 by Leonard03
Posted October 04, 2015
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Leonard03: That is very true and I'm not trying to be mean to people who don't have English as a first language. But you can tell (or at least I can tell) when someone doesn't speak the language as well, or are just throwing grammar out the window.
I'm not police! I said citizen's arrest...
Sometimes, it's hard to tell.

I write English very well, but English is still my second language. My English was abysmal until I was 13. After that, I learned English informally through various sources. I did take advanced English in my fourth year of high school, but they were well past the point where they analysed the finer points of grammar formally... so instead it was mostly about reading books and writing essays so I would pretty much learn by trial and error based on the mistakes I did with the essays.

It happens less and less over time, but occasionally, I'll still do a mistake that will throw a native English speaker aback. Of course, it doesn't help either that I have to hold two separate languages in my mind (sometimes, there is the occasional crossover).

Sometimes, people are lazy and you can tell right away (ie, 'u' instead of 'you'), but do try to give posters the benefit of the doubt.
Post edited October 04, 2015 by Magnitus
Posted October 04, 2015
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ashwald: You're no monkey! You're just an Ed! :P
Never make assumptions about Ed's species ;)
Posted October 04, 2015
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hedwards: In fact, it's more environmentally friendly to not waste ink on a superfluous comma.
Yeah, that's what we really need to be worried about. =/
Posted October 04, 2015
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hedwards: In fact, it's more environmentally friendly to not waste ink on a superfluous comma.
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mistermumbles: Yeah, that's what we really need to be worried about. =/
Ounce for ounce Thant ink costs more than gold.
Posted October 04, 2015
I don't know if it's a Canadian thing, but I was taught to use the Oxford comma and sentences always look off/wrong/weird to me without it.
Posted October 04, 2015
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chadjenofsky: What are your views on the Oxford comma?
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DieRuhe: Who gives a fuck about an Oxford comma?
Comma's fuckers do.

Sorry that makes sense only in Finnish, and even then only barely. Keyword "pilkunnussijat".
Post edited October 04, 2015 by timppu
Posted October 04, 2015
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hedwards: Ounce for ounce Thant ink costs more than gold.
The US spent thousands and thousands of dollars developing a pen that would write in space. The russians used a pencil.
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