I'm sure that there'll be a point in time in the not too distant future where Win7 is not the best option available. But I'm hoping that Win11 will be out by then and will have addressed all the problems I have with Win10. Either that or a really huge service pack. Or a couple of really huge service packs... Whatever it takes to make Win10 the OS it could have been if it had more thought and time put into it (and treated its customers better into the bargain).

But yeah, Win7. I'm sure that Linux has its advantages, but compatibility certainly isn't one of them.

Like in all possible ways? Yes Windows isn't absolutely perfect but it is million times better than Mac and Linux. It has optimized graphic drivers, graphic APIs, most of which written on Assembler by highly professional specialists - technicians, programmers and mathematicians, etc., so it means playing games on Windows isn't even in same universe with Linux.
I do bother because I don't like when people start spreading misinformation. When OP genuinely asks what is better for gaming, it is Windows. There is no ifs, no buts. This truth IS absolute. And no, I am not fan of Microsoft, I simply look at these things realistically. Linux is good for security, for building sites and servers on it, and for other such things - that's what it was made for in first place. For gaming? No.

And if you don't see that SteamOS is there to support DRM technologies, then i don't know what else to say to you.

I doubt that you understand the principles of reason and logic.

I think "literally" is now accepted by several dictionaries as a synonym of "figuratively"... I wonder how long it takes until "all possible ways" will be accepted as "not really all possible ways, I'm just very emotional about my view point and, therefore, feel like I have to exaggerate"

Which of these aspects are the work of Microsoft and are a part of the OS?

When making a claim like that you have to be more specific. Since you were so vague with your first claim, I have already been able to prove you wrong. So, maybe now you should be more clear about what you actually mean by making an OS with gaming in mind, how that matters and so on. My criticism will continue to apply until you rephrase what you wrote.

Then don't. You are spreading your own share of misinformation.


Then just say that Windows is better for gaming because games perform better instead of using false premises that are irrelevant to the question and could lead you to the opposite conclusion.

That is completely irrelevant. The SteamOS has very much to do with gaming and it obviously can't have less than zero to do with anything because nothing can have less then zero to do with something. What is "zero" even supposed to mean in this context?
If you want to inform someone then just argue logically using premises that are unambiguous so that your argument is easily falsifyable if the premises turn out to be wrong.
If you refuse to acknowledge that your premises are disproven or your premises are so vague that you're able to say "that's not what I meant", then you're doing it wrong.

Install Linux Mint instead and start using it for browsing the Internet. It seems really strange to me that someone who was planning on switching to Linux is keeping a Windows installation connected to the Internet.

A GOGger who wants to switch to SteamOS seems also a bit strange to me.

I am a bit lazy, so I don't like spend hours reading forums and huge articles on how to make such-and-such game to run. Vast majority of games run on Windows without necessity to do all this. You install them and they just run.
All? DirectX is part of OS it is released by Microsoft, just like all the required system dlls. DirectX APIs are uncomparably more compatible and stable than all the open-source stuff.
Tons upon tons upon tons of threads in Internet about problems of launching various games on Linux disagree with you. What do you try to achieve here?
But a lot of them don't even workt? Just look on Elminage Gothic subforum, it is a whole science to make game run without crashes with audio and video on Linux. And I can name another 10 such games off the top of my head.
It is relevant. You don't have a single game on Steam. Not a single one. "Zero" is supposed to mean what it means.
I brought you a lot of facts from experience of many other people and my own. From your side I only see promotion of some DRM platform. It is like you are trying to prove that sugar is bitter, OP asks for water or some liquid, you offer biscuits. You are trying to prove that 2+2=9, and that square root of 3 equals 4.

Perhaps you yourself is misguided and want to believe what you write. Perhaps you didn't have experience with Windows, and what can you do on it. But it is never late to try.

This is down to the quality of the ports themselves rather than SteamOS (or Linux in general). I've been using & gaming on Linux for almost 3 years now, in that time I've played a lot of games and in my experience the performance of ports varies quite a bit - some games are better on Linux, others worse, and others are about the same.

It's to be expected when porting games that were originally developed on and optimised exclusively for Windows & doing so while on a limited budget and schedule - the performance is more likely than not going to take a hit, as there are fewer resources to put into optimisation.


This is true for Linux as well; Nvidia's drivers in particular are excellent. Driver support can be an issue, but again this is more down to the size of the userbase and manufacturers putting a low priority on Linux support as a consequence of that. Another issue is manufacturers both failing to provide Linux support and not providing the technical details required to produce drivers for their hardware - forcing driver developers to attempt to create open source Linux drivers via reverse-engineering the Windows drivers.


Windows is better *now*, solely because with ~90-95% of the market share between Windows/Mac/Linux that's where companies are putting the bulk of their efforts into supporting (and in turn the majority of the market is using Windows because that's where the companies are putting their support, so in turn the companies keep putting support into Windows because that's where most of the users are and so on).

Linux is just as good for gaming, aside from some patchy driver support and availability/quality of Linux ports - this will only improve as the Linux userbase increases and makes it more viable/worthwhile for companies to properly support it.

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No, sorry that's what you are doing. My posts are completely logical as far as I can see. You aren't making any sense, your posts are completely illogical and you apparently don't even read. I feel really sorry for you.

I still think that it was a good idea to correct the two users who made misleading posts in this thread.

I realized. If you are to lazy to write logical arguments then be quiet.

That is irrelevant because it has nothing to do with making an OS with gaming in mind.

From what I've heard the Open Source graphics drivers can perform better than DirectX if the games are designed for them.
I still fail to realize how this justifies the statement "Windows was made with gaming in mind", but, anyway. I don't need to disprove this implicit premise because your argument is already disproven.

No, they don't. Learn to read.
That you start saying what you actually mean.
That you learn to read.
That you "argue logically using premises that are unambiguous so that your argument is easily falsifyable if the premises turn out to be wrong."
That you start being "more specific".
That you stop "spreading your own share of misinformation."

[Then say that as well. As long as it's true and your argument is logical I'm completely fine with that.
In this case, though, it's] irrelevant because it hasn't got anything to do with an OS being made with gaming in mind.
It is irrelevant because not owning games has absolutely nothing to do with an OS having to do with games.
If you haven't got a single game on Steam that means you own zero games but that does not mean that SteamOS has nothing to do with games.
Having less than zero to do with games doesn't make any sense.
I can't see any promotion of any DRM platform from my side. I just said that this so-called "DRM platform" was designed with gaming in mind because this was one solid fact that was enough to disprove your argument.

I really wonder what you actually think I wrote... I'm pretty sure that it doesn't match what I actually wrote in the slightest.

I first installed Ubuntu in 2012 and had been dual-booting until 2014 (I think) when I switched to Linux ... Currently I'm only using GNU/Linux.

Pardon me my French. On second glance this sentence doesn't sound right after all. On third glance... Oh, stop confusing me :P
Misguided, I see. It is never too late to join Dark Si... I mean, to install Windows :)
You are missing on a lot of games out there... I can only pity you :(

Thanks, but I don't know what I'm missing so it's not so bad. ;)

If there were any Linux-incompatible games that I would like to play then I wouldn't have completely switched to Linux.

I meant a normal book ;)

As the other user making misleading assertions, I thank you for that ;)
I edited my post once again, I hope this time it will be clearer that what I wrote is debatable:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/im_osically_conflicted/post13

I have no quarrel with Steam or Valve. I have reservations about DRM and other aspects of Steam, which is why I'm here and I try to support gog first, but I have no problems with Steam enough to make me not want to use it. I recognize Steam and Valve for what they are. They are a good thing. We'd be screwed with EA and Ubisoft and GFWL and so on and it might be that GOG wouldn't be nearly as compelling.

As for the Linux, I use my system to play games. That's pretty much about it. Zenwalk and then Salix, my flavours of choice, are pretty much gone and starting to evaporate respectively. I was looking at either Arch or Debian. But with windows handling my games well enough, I'm just not that motivated to switch.

I don't know about Wine, but from what I've heard, Parallels compatibility has taken a real beating with Windows 10. Doesn't get much worse when even your virtualization software doesn't work properly anymore.

I haven't tried any Win 10 specific software, so I wouldn't know. I thought Parallels required a valid Windows license.