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Even the majority of the GoGers prefer GoG to steam, we don't bash valve for something that don't look like valve responsibility.
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WBGhiro: I'm all for going against valve when they deserve it but I don't see how they are responsible for something a third party came up with.
They supported by giving these gambling sites a ''login through steam'' option. And this further gives them (ie those sites) higher credibility.

And to everyone else who thinks valve is free from this.^^
Post edited July 04, 2016 by Shadowstalker16
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Shadowstalker16: They supported by giving these gambling sites a ''login through steam'' option. And this further gives them (ie those sites) higher credibility.
You sure there weren't just using the steam api thing, kind of like gog connect does? Do you have to be officially endorsed by valve to implement it?
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WBGhiro: You sure there weren't just using the steam api thing, kind of like gog connect does? Do you have to be officially endorsed by valve to implement it?
Nope, of course you don't.
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WBGhiro: You sure there weren't just using the steam api thing, kind of like gog connect does? Do you have to be officially endorsed by valve to implement it?
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Fenixp: Nope, of course you don't.
OK didn't know they didn't need endorsement for that. They do mention filling out a forum though, so its probably not automated.
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WBGhiro: I'm all for going against valve when they deserve it but I don't see how they are responsible for something a third party came up with.
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Shadowstalker16: They supported by giving these gambling sites a ''login through steam'' option. And this further gives them (ie those sites) higher credibility.

And to everyone else who thinks valve is free from this.^^
And Google indexed them and gave them free space to publish their videos without any questions...
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Shadowstalker16: OK didn't know they didn't need endorsement for that. They do mention filling out a forum though, so its probably not automated.
You have to insert your domain name to pair with Steam database, that's the form. It might be checked for profanities, but that's about all Valve can do with that kind of information.
Interesting. Would it reopen the "are lootboxes* gambling?" debate?

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For the singleplayer only goggers:
WTF are lootboxes? Lootboxes (or other name variants like lootcrates, lockboxes etc) are common in several MMOs these days. Opening them has the slim chance for something really awesome to drop but usually requires a key-like-item which, at least initially, can only be bought in the ingame-store which could be bought by some special game related virtual currency which is acquired by real currency. In most MMOs these Boxes are considered to be one of if not the biggest moneymakers and, IIRC, has been denied the "Gambling" nature by courts possibly because the several steps between real money & lootbox.
Vegas is itching to get into esports gambling....there's a casino that holds weekly game tournaments with no gambling. I take this as a sign that they want to be on the forefront of legal esports gaming when the time arrives. But it won't happen because of stuff like this, or the StarCraft corruption, or the Hearthstone corruption, or the Lol corruption, or the Dota.....oh, you get it.
Love his style :D
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Shadowstalker16: They supported by giving these gambling sites a ''login through steam'' option. And this further gives them (ie those sites) higher credibility.

And to everyone else who thinks valve is free from this.^^
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OlivawR: And Google indexed them and gave them free space to publish their videos without any questions...
Point being?
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Shadowstalker16: OK didn't know they didn't need endorsement for that. They do mention filling out a forum though, so its probably not automated.
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Fenixp: You have to insert your domain name to pair with Steam database, that's the form. It might be checked for profanities, but that's about all Valve can do with that kind of information.
Yeah Valve seems like it was oblivious of all this and the blame is on the sites and their undisclosed promoters.
Post edited July 04, 2016 by Shadowstalker16
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anothername: Interesting. Would it reopen the "are lootboxes* gambling?" debate?

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For the singleplayer only goggers:
WTF are lootboxes? Lootboxes (or other name variants like lootcrates, lockboxes etc) are common in several MMOs these days. Opening them has the slim chance for something really awesome to drop but usually requires a key-like-item which, at least initially, can only be bought in the ingame-store which could be bought by some special game related virtual currency which is acquired by real currency. In most MMOs these Boxes are considered to be one of if not the biggest moneymakers and, IIRC, has been denied the "Gambling" nature by courts possibly because the several steps between real money & lootbox.
I had no idea about all this CS:GO stuff, but from what I've been learning after seeing this thread, the lootboxes "gambling" is the least "gambling" in the whole thing. What the real gambling sites offer rates as degenerate gambling in my book. You can just win/lose a whole inventory (which is actually money) in a matter of seconds.
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OlivawR: And Google indexed them and gave them free space to publish their videos without any questions...
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Shadowstalker16: Point being?
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Fenixp: You have to insert your domain name to pair with Steam database, that's the form. It might be checked for profanities, but that's about all Valve can do with that kind of information.
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Shadowstalker16: Yeah Valve seems like it was oblivious of all this and the blame is on the sites and their undisclosed promoters.
Point being that if Valve is guilty so is Google. Was that hard to figure it out?
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Shadowstalker16: Point being?

Yeah Valve seems like it was oblivious of all this and the blame is on the sites and their undisclosed promoters.
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OlivawR: Point being that if Valve is guilty so is Google. Was that hard to figure it out?
Well google didn't do any sort of endorsement and it didn't use google products or money from the google marketplace.
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Shadowstalker16: Well google didn't do any sort of endorsement and it didn't use google products or money from the google marketplace.
Were the youtubers getting paid by youtube?