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Magmarock: Yes it was, I've been asking you since my second post to reduce the size of your responses First time I asked
Between that post and the "tldr" one, you don't mention post length at all, so you mean the only time you asked? (and you didn't actually ask, you suggested).

EDIT: I also want to point out that the post where you "asked" them to shorten their responses is only 20 fewer words (544 vs. 561) than the one you are complaining about. So you asked them to shorten their posts, set a standard by the length of the post in which you did, which they pretty closely met, then complained about it.
Post edited July 08, 2018 by xyem
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Magmarock: Yes it was, I've been asking you since my second post to reduce the size of your responses First time I asked
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xyem: Between that post and the "tldr" one, you don't mention post length at all, so you mean the only time you asked? (and you didn't actually ask, you suggested).

EDIT: I also want to point out that the post where you "asked" them to shorten their responses is only 20 fewer words (544 vs. 561) than the one you are complaining about. So you asked them to shorten their posts, set a standard by the length of the post in which you did, which they pretty closely met, then complained about it.
Now you're just nitpicking.
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LiefLayer: I use Linux (subsystem) because I like bash more than powershell.
I keep a linux distro installed on my PC because I love freedom to change when I like to change (that's why I only buy games that also work on linux, native or wine but it should work).
I still like both windows and mac os.... right now I'm using Windows 10 because I love the eye reader to access to my PC instead of password and I'm using Visual Studio to create a new Application with the Universal UI (only the UI is windows, the core is cross-platform).
Right now I don't use mac os because I don't own a mac as my main PC.
Right now I don't use the distro as main OS because I'm still not bored of windows.

Usually I change main OS every 2-3 months.

I love open source but I'm not "everything should be open source at all cost" guy (the OS for example don't need to be open source).
The main thing that I hate is when I have to stay in one OS because no cross-platform support. I love freedom.

PS. Before Windows 10 I hated windows. It was so slow compared to mac os and any linux distro. Windows Update was really a mess (now it usually does not fail download). And the UI in windows 8 was shit.
Right now the only thing that I don't like about windows is the default backup system... It sucks compared to mac os Time Machine and Linux backup.
1. it does not backup applications.
2. it does not backup Windows and registry.
and the old image backup does not always work (for example it does not work on external drive).

I had to install Macrium Reflect to get a good backup support that on mac and linux is default.
This is my favorite post on the thread. Being able to use closed source or even produce software with it is just as much a freedom in on itself. Windows built in backup is rubbish but I haven't found anything on Linux comparable to Macrium Reflect and I don't use Mac's so no references.

For me the biggest pain for Linux is getting offline backups of programs and drivers to work. With gog you can download exe's which have most of what you need and android has those apk files. You can get offline backups for Linux but they often require a cluster of packages suck as deb files or something; and you need to use bash to use it. I don't mind bash for technical things but not for things like that.
Post edited July 08, 2018 by Magmarock
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Magmarock: Now you're just nitpicking.
Showing why your demand for them to shorten their posts is unreasonable is not nit-picking.

Pointing out that you still haven't asked because you said "resonances" instead of "responses"? That would be nit-picking.
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Magmarock: Now you're just nitpicking.
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xyem: Showing why your demand for them to shorten their posts is unreasonable is not nit-picking.

Pointing out that you still haven't asked because you said "resonances" instead of "responses"? That would be nit-picking.
Cool story bro
I am learning with Mint right now and it's nice, but makes me feel upset that a lot of stuff I love to use does not work with it. :(
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xyem: That's an odd position to have, as the OS can undermine software that is running on it (intentionally or otherwise).
Yes but if I can start an open source application on my closed source OS I don't care.
That's also the reason why the only OS that I don't really like is iOS... I need a mac to develop for iOS and I cannot install apps without apple approval.
But that's not a problem for windows and mac (right now... if it will be a problem in the future I just have to remove windows from my PC and stay on linux... it's a 2 minutes work for me).

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Magmarock: but I haven't found anything on Linux comparable to Macrium Reflect and I don't use Mac's so no references.
Well there are multiple backup systems on linux, but I just use the gnome disk utility to make a system image. It's fast and safe. The only problem is that you need a live usb linux because you cannot make a backup while you are using the system, but it will not fail like the old backup for windows 7 (that it's also on windows 10 but fail every time that I try to use it).
When I need to restore I just boot with the live usb version and restore the system image.
Of course it's not bootable and not incremental like Macrium Reflect, but it's still better than windows defaults (where there are 2 systems to backup and nothing is working and it's complete).
Deja dup is a pain in the ass just like the new backup system on windows 10 (at least to backup/restore applications).

Of course Time Machine is still the king: you just connect an externa HDD, exclude folders that you don't want to backup, and it will make a full system incremental backup on any partition of a disk. You can restore any single file, you can restore the full system, and it will automatically delete old backup when you finish the space for new backups (since it's incremental). So easy to use, so reliable, so complete, and included in the OS. Like I said I usually prefer open source but not at all cost, and Time Machine deserve to be used if you are using mac just like Macrium Reflect deserve to be used on windows.

There is also Clonezilla but I'm not a fan... it's a pain like a system image (you need to boot in a live usb Clonezilla), but it's much more elaborated.
I know that it's a really good way to make a bit-to-bit backup and that you can use it for any file system (so you can backup windows and mac with Clonezilla)... But I still think it's too much of a pain. A backup/restore system should be a one click thing because it's made for security reason (so that you don't lose files)... With Clonezilla I always think "if I'm tired I will fuck my backup and my system with this interface".


PS. Now that I look... Macrium can also backup Linux partition.... maybe I should just use it for linux too.
Post edited July 08, 2018 by LiefLayer
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DreamedArtist: I am learning with Mint right now and it's nice, but makes me feel upset that a lot of stuff I love to use does not work with it. :(
Mint is the best one to start with. It doesn't help their version of Wine is way out of date. Most new users won't be familiar with PPA's so you'll probably be stuck with 1.6 for a while.
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LiefLayer: Well there are multiple backup systems on linux
Yeah I'm familiar with those but I really like Reflect. I ended up purchasing a licences that I honestly never use because the free version does what I want but I was happy to support the product. Clonezilla is garbage and woefully behind the times compared to the commercial closed source alternatives. I spent quite a while trying to explain this to kohlrak

Reflect can image a Linux system, just be sure to use forensic and not intelligent. Something to do with the ext4 filing system I think.
Post edited July 08, 2018 by Magmarock
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Magmarock: Mint is the best one to start with. It doesn't help their version of Wine is way out of date. Most new users won't be familiar with PPA's so you'll probably be stuck with 1.6 for a while.
Isn't the new Mint 19 release based on Ubuntu 18.04? Should be version 3something in the official repos. Or has Mint fully separated from Ubuntu at this point (I haven't used it in years)?
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xyem: ...
I'm going to save you some time and point out that this is personal with him. When i really got deep into his own personal reasons for coming after this he stopped talking about the issues, and moved onto what is presumably the bigger threat to him, which is my analysis of his arguments themselves, and especially him. I think my analysis of why he hates linux is close enough to be true, which is why he's responding this way all the sudden.

Something i learned from experience: people argue irrationally when you've gotten deep enough into their head to pull up something they're in conflict with themselves over. I know this can derail the topic, but i encourage people to try this at least once, regardless of your own stance on it. Go into a discussion about equal rights between the sexes and argue that women should be obligated to register for the draft since men are obligated to (as necesary for protecting the country). Human nature rules suggest that women must be protected above men in almost all scenarios (which is why court decisions regarding child custody favor women on average), but at the same time we like to believe we care about equality. Those two ideals are in direct conflict with each other in certain scenarios, like the draft, so you cna watch people spin into irrationality by pitting these two things into direct conflict with each other. If you'd like, i'm sure i could come up with other examples, and even find some things in your own life that you'd be conflicted about, and pull the same thing on you live. It's pretty easy, once you know enough about someone. Another good one, if you're too conflicted yourself about the scenario above (most likely you're a lefty), then you're most likely going to be more open to thie conflict: If God created all things, then if evil exists, then God created evil, therefore God must have, at the very least, a little evil in him. As a religious person who believes in solving issues instead of avoiding them, I already have my own answer, but that's a pretty good one to throw at someone who's never seen it before. Watch how people struggle to defend God, which usually results in coming after you instead of the argument.

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DreamedArtist: I am learning with Mint right now and it's nice, but makes me feel upset that a lot of stuff I love to use does not work with it. :(
What exactly are you having trouble with? I'm stuck on windows, right now, but I can work magic if necessary. You might have to sacrifice a program in favor of trying something new and similar (and the fact this idea scares you should suggest that you just might not know of all the possible replacements).
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LiefLayer: ...
気にしないでな、喪黒さん。
Post edited July 08, 2018 by kohlrak
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Magmarock: Mint is the best one to start with. It doesn't help their version of Wine is way out of date. Most new users won't be familiar with PPA's so you'll probably be stuck with 1.6 for a while.
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saldite: Isn't the new Mint 19 release based on Ubuntu 18.04? Should be version 3something in the official repos. Or has Mint fully separated from Ubuntu at this point (I haven't used it in years)?
I'm not sure about 19 but all the way till 18.3 it was Wine 1.6 which is rather pitiful for a "Windows like" distro
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kohlrak: 気にしないでな、喪黒さん。
I don't know jap.
but if you refer to Moguro Fukuzou:
*Moguro laugh*
Post edited July 08, 2018 by LiefLayer
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kohlrak: 気にしないでな、喪黒さん。
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LiefLayer: I don't know jap.
Oh, sorry.

i was telling you not to worry about it.

I assumed you knew japanese, because your display pic is 喪黒福造 (Fukuzou Moguro), the lead character from 笑ゥせぇるすまん (The Laughing/Smiling Salesman), which, iirc, was never translated in large scale.
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kohlrak: Oh, sorry.

i was telling you not to worry about it.

I assumed you knew japanese, because your display pic is 喪黒福造 (Fukuzou Moguro), the lead character from 笑ゥせぇるすまん (The Laughing/Smiling Salesman), which, iirc, was never translated in large scale.
I watched the series on crunchyroll (the new adaptation subbed in my language italian) and than I watched the fansub eng series of the original adaptation.
Post edited July 08, 2018 by LiefLayer
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kohlrak: Oh, sorry.

i was telling you not to worry about it.

I assumed you knew japanese, because your display pic is 喪黒福造 (Fukuzou Moguro), the lead character from 笑ゥせぇるすまん (The Laughing/Smiling Salesman), which, iirc, was never translated in large scale.
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LiefLayer: I watched the series on crunchyroll (subbed in my language italian) and than I watched the fansub eng series of the original adaptation.
I thought only a few episodes ever got translated. Well, this is news to me. All the stuff on youtube was taken down, unfortuantely. However, i do speak japanese and i managed to grab every episode off of youtube (since you can't get it outside of japan otherwise).
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kohlrak: I thought only a few episodes ever got translated. Well, this is news to me. All the stuff on youtube was taken down, unfortuantely. However, i do speak japanese and i managed to grab every episode off of youtube (since you can't get it outside of japan otherwise).
I watched it here (official subs):
http://www.crunchyroll.com/the-laughing-salesman
and here the old series (fansub torrent):
http://live-evil.fansub-torrents.com/#LaughingSalesman

too bad there is no official way to get the original show.