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OldFatGuy: I've been disabled since Nov 24, 1999 and without computer games I'm literally skeptical I'd still be here as at some point with all of the pain and depression... well you know.

Oh, and I do mean COMPUTER games. IMO (once again for everyone IN MY OPINION) computer games offer much more depth and options than console games. I've played with several consoles and it just seems to me that computer games offer so much more, especially for strategy type games. But again, that's all IMO, YMMV.
Interesting, as i've also been disabled for about the same amount of years(give or take). I am introverted enough that staying inside so much causes me to get bored/slightly depressed and without games and such i'd likely not know what to do with myself(activity wise).

As for console games: I love them because I can sit on a couch and play with family and the few friends I have IRL. Of course I also love PC gaming. :)
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Think of sporks.

You do have them in Germany, don't you?
They might but the UK likely confiscates them as "weapons" or some such nonsense to make it look like they are fighting crime and not as incompetent as some of them are.
Post edited August 29, 2019 by GameRager
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morolf: [… V]ideo games have also pushed many people into […] isolation and death. Untold lives have been destroyed by video games. […]
As per Nathan Poe, I'm not sure if your hyperbole was for jocularity or not, but this statement is almost completely false.
(I believe to sum total of deaths caused by video game addiction is less than three. And really, who cares about those losers?)
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OldFatGuy: That is all.

No, maybe not all. Not only do I love them, they have probably literally kept me alive since 1999. Thank you computer games.

OK, that is all.

ADDED: I have no idea whatsoever why I posted this. Just feeling good today and being silly I guess. lol
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falloutttt: Don't worry about being silly.

Most people here are being silly on daily basics, and don't even know it. Me, myself included.

Silly is my middle name.
Yup i agree, ntg wrong with being silly at times (key word is at times & not all the time of cos, lol).

Anyway, glad 2 hear it has kept u alive & well. Computers games indeed hv being taken up quite a bit of time my life as well especially during my growing up days & dare say that literally all of us here loved computer games, if not we wun not b here also. Hehe. ;p

Hope we can all keep enjoy the fun they bring 2 us, although sad 2 say i think i dun hv too much time 4 them nowadays as much as i hoped. Cheers! =D
Post edited September 07, 2019 by tomyam80
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GameRager: Interesting, as i've also been disabled for about the same amount of years(give or take). I am introverted enough that staying inside so much causes me to get bored/slightly depressed and without games and such i'd likely not know what to do with myself(activity wise).
That's funny, for me the issue is that I have so much to do I feel like I can't give up my limited free time to spend with other people. Not that I have anyone to spend time with, except for immediate family. Of course part of the problem is that I can't seem to find other people who are into things that are interesting for me and can be done together. Making friends and maintaining relationships is nightmarishly difficult :(

I don't feel like I've got enough time for myself even though I'm virtually always alone. And it's not that I just want to be alone.
Post edited September 08, 2019 by clarry
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falloutttt: Don't worry about being silly.

Most people here are being silly on daily basics, and don't even know it. Me, myself included.

Silly is my middle name.
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tomyam80: Yup i agree, ntg wrong with being silly at times (key word is at times & not all the time of cos, lol).

Anyway, glad 2 hear it has kept u alive & well. Computers games indeed hv being taken up quite a bit of time my life as well especially during my growing up days & dare say that literally all of us here loved computer games, if not we wun not b here also. Hehe. ;p

Hope we can all keep enjoy the fun they bring 2 us, although sad 2 say i think i dun hv too much time 4 them nowadays as much as i hoped. Cheers! =D
Yeah, same here. I work like a horse this days. And when I have free time, I just don't feel like playing games. :/
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scientiae: (I believe to sum total of deaths caused by video game addiction is less than three. And really, who cares about those losers?)
I don't know, I recently came upon a picture on the net which showed Hitler with a video game controller...not sure if that is staged...but still, pretty disturbing if gaming might have contributed to Hitler's evil. Kind of fitting though that he was apparently a fan of console games, I've always thought there's something wrong with console gamers.
Long live epic singleplayer (and local multiplayer) escapism. For as many wonderful experiences as books, films, albums can provide...there is still nothing quite like a great old game to get lost in.
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scientiae: (I believe to sum total of deaths caused by video game addiction is less than three. And really, who cares about those losers?)
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morolf: I don't know, I recently came upon a picture on the net which showed Hitler with a video game controller...not sure if that is staged...but still, pretty disturbing if gaming might have contributed to Hitler's evil. Kind of fitting though that he was apparently a fan of console games, I've always thought there's something wrong with console gamers.
Ja, but only later did he use the controller.

Did you know Hitler stole the first electronic computer from Tasmania?

Among his muttered justifications he complained that it was the Prussian Baron von Reisswitz early-19th-century Kriegsspiel, and his son revised it for version 2 (1824), which featured the military units of the day, and simulated battles using die rolls to simulate unforeseen factors in resolving combat. When Colonel Julius Adrian Friedrich Wilhelm von Verdy du Vernois released Kriegsspiel Drei (1876), he replaced die rolls with impartial “umpires” (a.k.a. Dungeon Masters).

It wasn't for almost a century that the Americans began their pen-and-paper assault with Jane’s Fighting Ships (1898).

Only then had the tabletop arms race begun! Soon, HG Wells (1913), Little Wars determined simulated strategy encounters.*

So Hitler felt completely entitled to take back the Prussian invention of wargaming, and vindicated his theft as a wrong that corrected a previous injury to German superiority.


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* This is actually from CRPG (2nd Ed., ed. Filipe Pepe, 2018).
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scientiae:
Interesting, I had been vaguely aware that tabletop role-playing had antecedents in military war planning simulations, and that H.G. Wells also created a game. Kind of sad though that computer rpgs have become so dumbed down and are now more about cinematic experiences.
I love computer games too! Unfortunately, most of my friends don't tend to be into that sort of stuff and so I don't get to talk about them much outside of this forum...

You should always be able to share your love for something, but love for computer games specifically is in short supply from what I have seen. Lots of console game lovers who even moved to PC by now but still enjoy those types of games exclusively. Maybe they will start to appreciate the computer games we love more too at some point :)
Post edited September 08, 2019 by Karterii1993
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morolf: [… V]ideo games have also pushed many people into […] isolation and death. Untold lives have been destroyed by video games. […]
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scientiae: As per Nathan Poe, I'm not sure if your hyperbole was for jocularity or not, but this statement is almost completely false.
(I believe to sum total of deaths caused by video game addiction is less than three. And really, who cares about those losers?)
While that last bit was a bit harsh and unneeded, imo, the idea comes across as valid & loud/clear. To me, those people were also likely mentally unsound and likely to off themselves/others(or try to) with or without games....games in this case just being used as a scapegoat by people who "need" someone or something to blame for every tragedy in life.

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GameRager: Interesting, as i've also been disabled for about the same amount of years(give or take). I am introverted enough that staying inside so much causes me to get bored/slightly depressed and without games and such i'd likely not know what to do with myself(activity wise).
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clarry: That's funny, for me the issue is that I have so much to do I feel like I can't give up my limited free time to spend with other people. Not that I have anyone to spend time with, except for immediate family. Of course part of the problem is that I can't seem to find other people who are into things that are interesting for me and can be done together. Making friends and maintaining relationships is nightmarishly difficult :(

I don't feel like I've got enough time for myself even though I'm virtually always alone. And it's not that I just want to be alone.
I am almost the same.....I find it hard to maintain IRL friendships due to the amount of outdoors socializing required for most of them(I am a semi shutin) and other related factors, so I can definitely sympathize. I do try spending time with immediate family as well, though.

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morolf: Interesting, I had been vaguely aware that tabletop role-playing had antecedents in military war planning simulations, and that H.G. Wells also created a game. Kind of sad though that computer rpgs have become so dumbed down and are now more about cinematic experiences.
To me cinematic experiences are fun(if scenes are skippable after one viewing), and make the game better...one can easily have such AND good gameplay as well.
Post edited September 11, 2019 by GameRager
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GameRager: While that last bit was a bit harsh and unneeded, imo, the idea comes across as valid & loud/clear. To me, those people were also likely mentally unsound and likely to off themselves/others(or try to) with or without games....games in this case just being used as a scapegoat by people who "need" someone or something to blame for every tragedy in life.
Just my acerbic sense of humour (tough love and all that). Of course I agree with your sentiments.

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scientiae:
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morolf: Interesting, I had been vaguely aware that tabletop role-playing had antecedents in military war planning simulations, and that H.G. Wells also created a game. Kind of sad though that computer rpgs have become so dumbed down and are now more about cinematic experiences.
And don't forget the Tasmanian golf game! As for dumbed down, you should read this.
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GameRager: While that last bit was a bit harsh and unneeded, imo, the idea comes across as valid & loud/clear. To me, those people were also likely mentally unsound and likely to off themselves/others(or try to) with or without games....games in this case just being used as a scapegoat by people who "need" someone or something to blame for every tragedy in life.
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scientiae: Just my acerbic sense of humour (tough love and all that). Of course I agree with your sentiments.
I figured as much, but wanted to be 100% sure.

And yes, they seem to always want to find something to worry about or scapegoat to not have to deal with society's major issues(if they can even all be solved). Now it's the newest joker film, and soon it will likely be other things. :|
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timppu: Computer games love you back! <3 <3 <3
Depends. Lately large publishers putting out 'games' are just monetization systems that want to suck your wallet dry. I'd call them digital vampires.

Smaller studios that actually make games? Yes games probably love you back.

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Themken: Forget sporks, just use chopsticks!
Or when i was in the army, we only ever were allowed a spoon.
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timppu: Computer games love you back! <3 <3 <3
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rtcvb32: Depends. Lately large publishers putting out 'games' are just monetization systems that want to suck your wallet dry. I'd call them digital vampires.
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But … vampires do love their flocks! They love the adulation and the enthusiastic donations of others' most valuable gifts!