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LiquidOxygen80: What? I'm pretty sure I've said worse things than tinyE and gotten away with it. Why oh why would GOG go after him, of all people?
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johnnygoging: they didn't. long story short, this was a case of the staff member in question cursorily handing out warnings to all parties involved and things interpreted as a bit tense when they were not.
Well, dag. I was just about to put on my Chris Crocker wig and scream into my camera. :(
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johnnygoging: they didn't. long story short, this was a case of the staff member in question cursorily handing out warnings to all parties involved and things interpreted as a bit tense when they were not.
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LiquidOxygen80: Well, dag. I was just about to put on my Chris Crocker wig and scream into my camera. :(
Well, it also seems GoG received "multiple complaints" so there is at least the suggestion that scammer alts were "helping" Tauto who admitted to filing one despite all his prior vitriol toward TinyE.

Not too surprising that Tauto calls me out by name and my rep drops 4 points. I was going to do a giveaway at 1000. I reached 999 six days ago and some assholes have decided to downrep me. I've just lost 30 points this week and could not find a single recent post that was "low rated".
Post edited March 20, 2016 by RWarehall
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hedwards: snip
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RWarehall: Frankly, you are a blight on the forum. Many people have commented how they almost fell for a scam but were saved when they searched the forum and found the thread. It has helped many people but you inexplicably ignore that and just call it "trolling". My experience is if you ignore trolls, they just troll harder. This farcical concept that everyone can just ignore the thieves and then they will go away is naive to the utmost. Has anyone ever seen such a thing work? It doesn't because it will never happen. Trolls will keep going stronger until they get a rise out of someone. The concept that you can get dozens of people to say nothing in response is completely idiotic and impossible.

Instead all YOU are doing is victim-blaming and this victim-blaming is far closer to bullying than anything done to help prevent scammers. The fact is many of the times you've butted into various threads in defense of so-called "newbies", most of the time they later were confirmed as a scammer. Makes you a sort of accomplice...
LOL, that's a good one.

The reality here is that this is the internet and the internet is a dangerous place. If you're not watching your own shit, you're probably going to be scammed.

But, in this case, calling that scamming is a bit of a misleading. It's less scamming than trolling. The people doing the scams could just as easily obtain most of the games from pirate sites and the only real motivating factor for them to scam others is the lulz. If they just wanted the game, there's plenty of opportunity to just pirate the thing without the inconvenience. Or to buy it and ask for a refund later on.

I'm with Tauto, somebody needs to be the voice of reason here. No matter how hard you try, all you're doing is revealing yourself to be tetchy and out of touch with reality. If people were to restrict their trading to people they knew and to people who had a rather substantial reputation, the problem of scamming would go away almost over night. It might not ever go away completely, but it would be greatly reduced to the point of a minor annoyance.

I've yet to see anybody come up with a credible explanation for why people shouldn't just take responsibility for themselves when Mr. Gog has communicated rather clearly that he isn't going to police the gift codes and get involved.

The current naming and shaming campaign hasn't resolved the situation, it still goes on and it results in a fair amount of unnecessary unpleasantness when people who aren't doing anything wrong get caught up in it. You yourself acknowledge that there are false positives. And you seem to be OK with that. Some of us value justice a bit more strongly than others do, I suppose.
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johnnygoging: I find it amusing that through all of this an aspect of bullying and abuse has arisen in this conflict.

considering this from people who are accused of essentially taking games away from others.

that's money. actual money.

it's just

I

don't even begin
It kind of amuses me that RWarehall is getting sanctimonious, when he's basically just a troll. He can't even stay civil in this thread.
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LiquidOxygen80: Well, dag. I was just about to put on my Chris Crocker wig and scream into my camera. :(
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RWarehall: Well, it also seems GoG received "multiple complaints" so there is at least the suggestion that scammer alts were "helping" Tauto who admitted to filing one despite all his prior vitriol toward TinyE.

Not too surprising that Tauto calls me out by name and my rep drops 4 points. I was going to do a giveaway at 1000. I reached 999 six days ago and some assholes have decided to downrep me. I've just lost 30 points this week and could not find a single recent post that was "low rated".
I'm not sure that's the reason. I've been rather tempted to mod you down for the idiotic posts you've made in this thread alone.
Post edited March 20, 2016 by hedwards
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hedwards: The current naming and shaming campaign hasn't resolved the situation, it still goes on and it results in a fair amount of unnecessary unpleasantness when people who aren't doing anything wrong get caught up in it. You yourself acknowledge that there are false positives. And you seem to be OK with that. Some of us value justice a bit more strongly than others do, I suppose.
No, I've used the word "most" just in case. Frankly, I'm not sure I have seen a definitive case where someone who wasn't a scammer was falsely accused.

And you calling me out of touch with reality? You are the idiot who publicly accused GoG of committing a crime with the "Mystery Box" giveaways. You are the one who is delusional enough to think a forum full of people could be organized enough not to comment after getting codes scammed from them.

Yeah, people could be smarter, but that doesn't absolve the scammers which you seem to be supporting with your posts. Good to see you agree with Tauto, shows you are more than willing to side with outright trolls...and shows your true colors...
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hedwards: I'm not sure that's the reason. I've been rather tempted to mod you down for the idiotic posts you've made in this thread alone.
Fuck you asshole! You are a self-centered moron who seems to think his own thoughts should be the thoughts of the world. Your plan is stupid and so are you. Funny you talk about sanctimonious, what a fucking hypocrite!
Post edited March 20, 2016 by RWarehall
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hedwards: The current naming and shaming campaign hasn't resolved the situation, it still goes on and it results in a fair amount of unnecessary unpleasantness when people who aren't doing anything wrong get caught up in it. You yourself acknowledge that there are false positives. And you seem to be OK with that. Some of us value justice a bit more strongly than others do, I suppose.
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RWarehall: No, I've used the word "most" just in case. Frankly, I'm not sure I have seen a definitive case where someone who wasn't a scammer was falsely accused.

And you calling me out of touch with reality? You are the idiot who publicly accused GoG of committing a crime with the "Mystery Box" giveaways. You are the one who is delusional enough to think a forum full of people could be organized enough not to comment after getting codes scammed from them.

Yeah, people could be smarter, but that doesn't absolve the scammers which you seem to be supporting with your posts. Good to see you agree with Tauto, shows you are more than willing to side with outright trolls...and shows your true colors...
Oh that one again. As I explained previously, online gambling is illegal.And buying a ticket for a random chance at a prize worth more is gambling to any reasonable person. There's no real difference between that and buying a ticket to the lottery.

I live in the world that is, not the world as it should be. Without GOG's involvement in cracking down on scamming the only way to avoid the probem is to grow up and take some actual responsibility for your own actions. Publishing high score tables is not going to make people any less likely to be scammed in the future. All it means is that there's going to be an ever increasing list of names that people have to avoid.

And that's assuming that the names are even right. And you admit yourself that the names aren't all correct. As in some of them are false positives. You seem to have absolutely no concern for the fact that not all the names are guaranteed to be alts used by scammers and I think that's rather fucked up.

Anyways, are you capable of constructing a post that isn't completely founded on logical fallacies? And since you can't seem to come up with a single cogent point that doesn't involve a lot of name calling, I'm out of here. I've got better things to do with my time than to waste any more of it on you and your asinine assertions.
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hedwards: I'm not sure that's the reason. I've been rather tempted to mod you down for the idiotic posts you've made in this thread alone.
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RWarehall: Fuck you asshole! You are a self-centered moron who seems to think his own thoughts should be the thoughts of the world. Your plan is stupid and so are you. Funny you talk about sanctimonious, what a fucking hypocrite!
LOL, I've quoted this here so you can't remove it. I'd recommend looking the word hypocrite up in the dictionary as it doesn't appear to mean what you think it means.

You may not like what I've had to say here, but you do have to admit that I've been rather consistent about my feelings about vigilante justice.
Post edited March 20, 2016 by hedwards
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hedwards: snip
Are you capable of not being an asshole? I made my point. You seem to ignore anything anyone else ever wants to say in your complete arrogance. You call it a high score table, I call it valuable insight into the names and methods the scammers use.

Yours is not the only opinion on this forum. You clearly don't know shit about the laws about gambling because your idiotic argument has been debunked many times.

What I find fucked up is how you are attacking the people trying to help and warn about the scammers. You seem to believe that just because someone may be falsely accused, no one should say anything and that is really stupid.

That is like saying because innocent people might be found guilty of a crime, no one should ever be tried for a crime. In other words, you support the scammers and want to get thread complaining about them banned.

That makes you out to be quite the jerk....
Well, this thread was fun for a while. Then it got all serious and crap.

Like... as if.
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Emob78: Well, this thread was fun for a while. Then it got all serious and crap.

Like... as if.
I'm ashamed.
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Emob78: Well, this thread was fun for a while. Then it got all serious and crap.
It's what we call "The Reverse TinyE".
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Leroux: Did anyone create a wishlist entry yet? "Hands off my tinyE" or something? ;)
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Fenixp: Yes.
Cool. I voted.
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hedwards: calling that scamming is a bit of a misleading. It's less scamming than trolling. The people doing the scams could just as easily obtain most of the games from pirate sites and the only real motivating factor for them to scam others is the lulz.
What!? The big difference is that they steal money from people, but basically end up owning\selling the games legally.
Who cares about the reasons, they're scammers.

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hedwards: The current naming and shaming campaign hasn't resolved the situation, it still goes on and it results in a fair amount of unnecessary unpleasantness when people who aren't doing anything wrong get caught up in it. [..] Some of us value justice a bit more strongly than others do, I suppose.
So, scamming is ok, but naming is very bad.
Your sense of justice is crap, man.

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hedwards: I'm with Tauto, somebody needs to be the voice of reason here.
Wow.. congrats.
*facepalm*
Post edited March 20, 2016 by phaolo
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LiquidOxygen80: Well, dag. I was just about to put on my Chris Crocker wig and scream into my camera. :(
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RWarehall: Well, it also seems GoG received "multiple complaints" so there is at least the suggestion that scammer alts were "helping" Tauto who admitted to filing one despite all his prior vitriol toward TinyE.

Not too surprising that Tauto calls me out by name and my rep drops 4 points. I was going to do a giveaway at 1000. I reached 999 six days ago and some assholes have decided to downrep me. I've just lost 30 points this week and could not find a single recent post that was "low rated".
I didn't down vote you troll but I will from now on,just for the accusation.
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tinyE: GOG has notified me to cease and desist from my conduct in here.

Well I'm not going to apologize for defending myself against scammers leeches and the occasional turd who comes in to wish me I hadn't beaten cancer, so my time in here may be short.

I guess the assholes win this one. I hope all those who reported me like having people like tauto and tort running the place. :D
I'm not familiar with the case of blues so I won't comment. I'll leave it to the pros :P.

I'll just say I'm sorry you got cancer and I'm glad you beat it.

I only come here semi-regularly, but when I come around to peek at what's going on, I find a lot of what you post very funny (the parts I get, I'm just not as well versed in popular culture as you are). Keep up the jollies.
Post edited March 20, 2016 by Magnitus
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Tauto: I didn't down vote you troll but I will from now on,just for the accusation.
Yeah, seriously Tauto. That is a threat of harassment. Since you reported TinyE, I'm reporting you.
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Tauto: I didn't down vote you troll but I will from now on,just for the accusation.
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RWarehall: Yeah, seriously Tauto. That is a threat of harassment. Since you reported TinyE, I'm reporting you.
You need to prove (what I say) and (what I do) are FACT,but it's okay for you to ACCUSE me of something I didn't do.
Therefore I have a case of harassment against you for your wrongful accusation.
Have a nice day:)