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hedwards: But, even worse, you've got people trying to use the thread to enforce their morality and manners on other people via bullying, shaming and shunning. It's gotten way out of hand.
Interesting given how you seem to be doing the same thing discussing this in this thread (and many others) by shaming those involved; making claims that this is someone against the terms of service seems like a bully attempt to get it to stop.

As I said, be careful what you wish for...

If your criteria became what it takes to shut down a thread, might as well shut down the entire forum. And frankly what I've seen, it is far from a witch hunt. Mostly it's reports and copy/paste of discussions that very clearly appear to be scammers.

There was just another thread where someone tried to give a game away and the alt army made half a dozen guesses in a row.

The problem is your claims that ignoring the problem will fix it just aren't even reasonable. The thread isn't a trophy case, the accounts containing over a 1,000 stolen games are their trophy cases. Just take Wakalo who claimed 2/3's of the 1,564 games on his Anasto Steam account where scammed from GoG as an example. Not talking about it would just give scammers free reign.
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DeathDiciple: Your example was plain wrong, which my counter example proves. Yet you call it incomplete.
Apparently you're new to the word irony. Yes, because you claim to support truth as an absolute, then give a non-sequitur counterpoint that would be taken into consideration in practice. You may have a degree as you claim, but you seem to not have worked professionally. Otherwise, you'd understand the concept of working model. So, yes, I'm calling into question the credentials of the person offering the claim on the basis that it provides an incomplete working model for a solution. If you want to call that trolling, so-be-it, but my educated guess is that you're just unwilling to see a starting point for a solution because of some personal ego bias or other issue.

That sort of thing pisses off managers in software engineering. Naysayers who can't also bring solutions invoke the ire of "higher-ups". It doesn't lend to developing professional acumen, because everything is shot down before it has a chance to see its way through to fruition. Which means you never have to do any actual work, just dispute any other solutions that lead to work. Which means nothing ever gets solved. A professional would innately understand this, so, by deduction, I doubt the veracity of your "expertise".

Not to mention, as I've said, I've seen this implemented. The chance of a neighbor or another account on the same IP offering a major obstacle to said solution in implementation is negligible and could be offset with other countermeasures piggybacked onto it; Login emails, 2-step authentication (which GOG claims to have implemented) etc. Claiming "wrong" without taking into account other options to see it through to an implementation is simply incomplete. But, I'd guess you do this sort of thing often. So, goodbye. You won't be missed.
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hedwards: But, even worse, you've got people trying to use the thread to enforce their morality and manners on other people via bullying, shaming and shunning. It's gotten way out of hand.
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RWarehall: Interesting given how you seem to be doing the same thing discussing this in this thread (and many others) by shaming those involved; making claims that this is someone against the terms of service seems like a bully attempt to get it to stop.

As I said, be careful what you wish for...

If your criteria became what it takes to shut down a thread, might as well shut down the entire forum. And frankly what I've seen, it is far from a witch hunt. Mostly it's reports and copy/paste of discussions that very clearly appear to be scammers.

There was just another thread where someone tried to give a game away and the alt army made half a dozen guesses in a row.

The problem is your claims that ignoring the problem will fix it just aren't even reasonable. The thread isn't a trophy case, the accounts containing over a 1,000 stolen games are their trophy cases. Just take Wakalo who claimed 2/3's of the 1,564 games on his Anasto Steam account where scammed from GoG as an example. Not talking about it would just give scammers free reign.
So, in other words, you don't have a leg to stand on and would rather that nobody point out that you haven't got a leg to stand on.

The only way to deal with trolls is to ignore them. Anything else just leads to more trolling and there's no good reason to believe that the people scamming games are just looking to get the games. I'd be surprised if there was a single game on this site that isn't available pirated. You're not going to have updates from games that have been scammed in most cases anyways.

It might not seem reasonable to you, but it's pretty clear that the thread is at best ineffectual and at worst just resulting in bullying various people that may or may not have done anything wrong. And you don't seem to care about that.

The thread itself is a blight on the forum that ought to have been purged from the site when it was first posted. No good has come out of it and it's highly unlikely that any good will come out of it in the future.
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RWarehall: There was just another thread where someone tried to give a game away and the alt army made half a dozen guesses in a row.
You hit the nail on the head right there.

There is a system in place, rules are made, boundaries set and yet, people 'game' the system. This is nothing new or different. If you set boundaries, people are going to venture outside them, it's human nature.

When we raise children, we make sure they "follow the rules" and then when they are young adults, "obey the law", but then as workers at corporations, they're encouraged to "think outside the box".

If the game presented was a number guessing game from 1 to 10, of course there would be someone johnny on the spot to send in a bot and snack it up.

But be forewarned, games like these are often created as "honeypots", just so they can find out who games the systems.
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But, even worse, you've got people trying to use the thread to enforce their morality and manners on other people via bullying, shaming and shunning. It's gotten way out of hand.


SPOT ON THE MARK...
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Tauto: But, even worse, you've got people trying to use the thread to enforce their morality and manners on other people via bullying, shaming and shunning. It's gotten way out of hand.

SPOT ON THE MARK...
I personally thought it was hilarious that time somebody accused me of being you.
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Tauto: But, even worse, you've got people trying to use the thread to enforce their morality and manners on other people via bullying, shaming and shunning. It's gotten way out of hand.

SPOT ON THE MARK...
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hedwards: I personally thought it was hilarious that time somebody accused me of being you.
Never saw that one,it would of been a good laugh.
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Tauto: But, even worse, you've got people trying to use the thread to enforce their morality and manners on other people via bullying, shaming and shunning. It's gotten way out of hand.

SPOT ON THE MARK...
Now is the time to use critical thinking. What are the specific acts that one can think of where bullying, shaming and shunning are actually encouraging morality?

Or are they more like supporting Darwin's survival of the fittest?
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Tauto: But, even worse, you've got people trying to use the thread to enforce their morality and manners on other people via bullying, shaming and shunning. It's gotten way out of hand.

SPOT ON THE MARK...
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JDelekto: Now is the time to use critical thinking. What are the specific acts that one can think of where bullying, shaming and shunning are actually encouraging morality?

Or are they more like supporting Darwin's survival of the fittest?
Playing with words,look at the whole picture.
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hedwards: snip
Frankly, you are a blight on the forum. Many people have commented how they almost fell for a scam but were saved when they searched the forum and found the thread. It has helped many people but you inexplicably ignore that and just call it "trolling". My experience is if you ignore trolls, they just troll harder. This farcical concept that everyone can just ignore the thieves and then they will go away is naive to the utmost. Has anyone ever seen such a thing work? It doesn't because it will never happen. Trolls will keep going stronger until they get a rise out of someone. The concept that you can get dozens of people to say nothing in response is completely idiotic and impossible.

Instead all YOU are doing is victim-blaming and this victim-blaming is far closer to bullying than anything done to help prevent scammers. The fact is many of the times you've butted into various threads in defense of so-called "newbies", most of the time they later were confirmed as a scammer. Makes you a sort of accomplice...
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Tauto: Playing with words,look at the whole picture.
I wouldn't mind seeing the big picture actually.
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The REAL fact is the forum doesn't like the truth spoken.
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Tauto: The REAL fact is the forum doesn't like the truth spoken.
The REAL fact is you are a troll. All you've done for the last several months is be an asshole to people in these forums...
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Tauto: Playing with words,look at the whole picture.
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JDelekto: I wouldn't mind seeing the big picture actually.
Can't post links and it's for ladies only:)
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Tauto: The REAL fact is the forum doesn't like the truth spoken.
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RWarehall: The REAL fact is you are a troll. All you've done for the last several months is be an asshole to people in these forums...
And your not trolling me,are you?
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Tauto: The REAL fact is the forum doesn't like the truth spoken.
That's how the whole world works actually. The world think it wants the truth but confuse it with confirmation of beliefs.