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Posted September 15, 2023
You're probably too old for it. It's more of a game for the zoomer audience, apparently they love all the relationship and sex stuff.
Don't know why you expected it to be a classic dungeon crawler though, that's not what it's marketed as, given all that talk about the 170 hours of cutscenes and sex with your party members.

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Cadaver747: I do hope the game will shine again in Act 3.
Haven't played the game myself (might eventually do so when it's discounted and fully patched), but Act 3 is supposedly the worst, apparently the game is frontloaded with the best parts.
Post edited September 15, 2023 by morolf
Posted September 15, 2023
Myself The "older" I am, the less interested in very story focused RPGs and more interested in the barebones Dungeon Crawler/grinding/tactical/number based subgenre of the CRPGs

For stories I prefer a book or a movie, Interactive fiction or graphic adventures. But with the latter It happens something similat to me. I prefer less story and something more focused in the riddles or the puzzles.

I have not played BG3 but I am convinced that it is a great game above average in every sense. But If some day I had the oportunity to play it, I'd be very lazy for start it, and would be more interested in the tactical combat system
Post edited September 15, 2023 by Gudadantza
Posted September 16, 2023
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Breja: When I lose my last life, will I go to hardcore heaven or casual hell?!
If you have fun when playing games, then you are a casual.

Hardcore gamers are supposed to suffer through games, hate their experience, and hate themselves because of it. That’s why they are always angry at everything and everyone (especially people who dare having fun in any way). That’s what makes them hardcore.
Posted September 16, 2023
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morolf: Haven't played the game myself (might eventually do so when it's discounted and fully patched), but Act 3 is supposedly the worst, apparently the game is frontloaded with the best parts.
I thought that Act 3 should be the best one actually. If you have time and patience I'd suggest to wait for BG3: Director's Cut Edition, lots of content was removed, and сurrent patches might be great on paper but they didn't patched any issue with items and interface I was having since the start.
Devs released PS5 version with better visibility but on PC it's the same interface with tiny text in books and even tinier text in letters with no option to enlarge it. Lastly it was so *clever made* to read a one-page book and turn for a page for 3 words at the end, why the heck devs couldn't place the text on the main page as well, it's always empty and it's not looking nice design wise. There are way too many odd design choices in my opinion.
Posted September 16, 2023
OP, it seems you're looking for Icewind Dale. Basically, dungeon crawler with D&D (nothing like Diablo). It's almost criminal that there are no new games following on that style. If you haven't played it, give it a try (or check it out on youtube, is basically Baldur's Gate 1.5 but the focus is on the combat and dungeons, and there are NO joinable npcs and you can create the whole party... to give you an example of how different is from BG).
Posted September 16, 2023
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Crosmando: Not exactly sure why, as I'm apparently the exact demographic for this type of game, being a CRPG grognard myself. But it just feels painfully boring, it took me ages to reach Baldur's Gate and I'm still not having fun. Not sure if it's my autism where I have to explore every square inch of the maps and loot every knife, fork, plate and cup from every table in every house, or if my attention span has regressed. There's just not enough actual battles and stuff happening to keep me entertained. I just want to go play a dungeon crawler where I'm regularly killing stuff, looting and leveling up. The whole game feels like a romance/social/conversation simulator and less like an RPG. This is less like swords & sorcery action-packed fun and more like Days Of Our Lives Fantasy Edition.
Non sequitur, I find Starfield to be boring. But, I can't put it down. I'll sit there, pushing through objective after objective, and occasionally exciting things happen. But mostly I'm bored out of my gourd. Then I look at the clock and 4 hours of my life is gone.

BG3 feels like a great RPG, but I'm not crazy about the style, plus I don't love the exploits that 5e allows, especially with the implementation in this game.
Posted September 16, 2023
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paladin181: BG3 feels like a great RPG, but I'm not crazy about the style, plus I don't love the exploits that 5e allows, especially with the implementation in this game.
It plays a lot like Dragon Age Origins in how you interact with companions and NPCs (if you are familiar with that). As for the combat it's good for most people, but yeah if you are a regular CRPG player you probably will find it on the basic side. It's certainly less deep than Pathfinder.

World exploration however is the best I've ever seen in a CRPG and the way the game reacts to your decisions and the freedom it gives to experiment with its systems to solve problems is pretty great.
Post edited September 16, 2023 by EverNightX
Posted September 16, 2023
Mabye try Final Fantasy games?
Posted September 16, 2023
BG3 gameplay (turn-based) prevented me from "even trying". Thank You. I promise not to comment on BG3 again.
Posted September 16, 2023
I'm waiting for a discount before I pick up Baldur's Gate 3. If BG3 is similar to Larian's previous works Divinity: Original Sin 1 & 2, I might like it.

Anyways, RPGs have several components...combat, exploration, character/environment interaction, puzzles, character progression, etc. Some games emphasize some components more than others. If you like a game heavy on dialogue and minimal combat, you might like Planescape: Torment. If you prefer sinking a lot of time into combat, play Wizardry 8.
Posted September 16, 2023
Why hasn't Solasta: Crown of the Magister been mentioned in this thread?
* Create your own party of 4 characters
* Ruleset based on 5e D&D (and may be more accurate than BG3 in some respects)
* Game has been described more as a combat simulator, making it more combat focused and less story focused than BG3
Posted September 17, 2023
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dtgreene: Why hasn't Solasta: Crown of the Magister been mentioned in this thread?
I did not mention it because it's 5.1 rules. But it's still probably worth a mention.
Posted September 19, 2023
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Crosmando: There's just not enough actual battles and stuff happening to keep me entertained. I just want to go play a dungeon crawler where I'm regularly killing stuff, looting and leveling up. The whole game feels like a romance/social/conversation simulator and less like an RPG. This is less like swords & sorcery action-packed fun and more like Days Of Our Lives Fantasy Edition.
BG3 is very much an an RPG. It sounds like you want an ARPG though. Look into Grim Dawn, Titan Quest, Victor Vran and Warhammer: Chaosbane.

There's also Diablo 1 and Sacred 1, and 2, of course.

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morolf: You're probably too old for it. It's more of a game for the zoomer audience, apparently they love all the relationship and sex stuff.
Don't know why you expected it to be a classic dungeon crawler though, that's not what it's marketed as, given all that talk about the 170 hours of cutscenes and sex with your party members.
It's not about the sex. It's about having a story-rich game, where having a conversation is just as important as having a fight. This is an RPG and the OP is clearly looking for an ARPG, especially since Diablo 2 was mentioned.
Post edited September 19, 2023 by SargonAelther
Posted September 19, 2023
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Crosmando: There's just not enough actual battles and stuff happening to keep me entertained. I just want to go play a dungeon crawler where I'm regularly killing stuff, looting and leveling up. The whole game feels like a romance/social/conversation simulator and less like an RPG. This is less like swords & sorcery action-packed fun and more like Days Of Our Lives Fantasy Edition.
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SargonAelther: BG3 is very much an an RPG. It sounds like you want an ARPG though. Look into Grim Dawn, Titan Quest, Victor Vran and Warhammer: Chaosbane.

There's also Diablo 1 and Sacred 1, and 2, of course.
The poster never said anything about wanting an action game, though.

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morolf: You're probably too old for it. It's more of a game for the zoomer audience, apparently they love all the relationship and sex stuff.
Don't know why you expected it to be a classic dungeon crawler though, that's not what it's marketed as, given all that talk about the 170 hours of cutscenes and sex with your party members.
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SargonAelther: It's not about the sex. It's about having a story-rich game, where having a conversation is just as important as having a fight. This is an RPG and the OP is clearly looking for an ARPG, especially since Diablo 2 was mentioned.
I would actually agree that having those conversations makes the game more of a visual novel than an RPG.

I'd prefer a pure RPG, one that doesn't get bogged down in dialog and actually lets me play.

The CRPG I'm making is intentionally not going to have much in the way of story or dialog.
Post edited September 19, 2023 by dtgreene
Posted September 19, 2023
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dtgreene: The poster never said anything about wanting an action game, though.
No, but that's what OP's been playing lately and those games focus way more on combat than anything else.
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Crosmando: Lately, I've just been playing WoW Classic and Diablo 2: Resurrected, have I become the casual gamer I always hated?
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SargonAelther: It's not about the sex. It's about having a story-rich game, where having a conversation is just as important as having a fight. This is an RPG and the OP is clearly looking for an ARPG, especially since Diablo 2 was mentioned.
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dtgreene: I would actually agree that having those conversations makes the game more of a visual novel than an RPG.

I'd prefer a pure RPG, one that doesn't get bogged down in dialog and actually lets me play.
Visual novels have nothing but conversations. BG3 has story, conversations, combat, levelling, loot, spells, various play styles within that combat, theft, crafting, etc. Look at other CRPGs though. My favourite ones are Fallout 1 and 2. Again, there's levelling, combat, loot, theft AND conversations. Lots of conversations. You can literally defeat the last boss of the game purely by talking. You can go in gunz-blazing, or you can talk. Those are options. having a conversation route does not make a game a visual novel. It makes it a great game with many options.

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dtgreene: The CRPG I'm making is intentionally not going to have much in the way of story or dialog.
You use that as a flex, but as far as I'm concerned, it's really not, sorry.
Post edited September 19, 2023 by SargonAelther
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