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Maxvorstadt: And still some games refused to run, due to not enuff amount of base memory.
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teceem: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QEMM
Yepp, I know that little program. But even with that, it wasn`t possible to clear enuff lower memory for some games. Especially the game "Der Clou" I never managed to get it to run, no matter what I did, there were still a few KB too much used by DOS and drivers to let the game work. I`m still wondering if anyone in the world has ever played this game and what tricks he/she used to get it to run.
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Bigs: Bah - GOG makes it easy...

Back in my day you had to deal with boot disks - config.sys and autoexec.bat files - trying to load in CDROM and sound card drivers while keeping at least 590k out of 640 k of ram free

Kids these days...

GET OFF MY LAWN!
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TheDudeLebowski: I remember trying to get Dreamweb to work. I think it may have been the most difficult to get right, back in the day (from the ones I played).

So, anyway, how do parents teach problem solving to their kids these days?
How would I know.. I play video games... think I have a girlfriend / wife / kids?!? :P
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Maxvorstadt: Yepp, I know that little program. But even with that, it wasn`t possible to clear enuff lower memory for some games. Especially the game "Der Clou" I never managed to get it to run, no matter what I did, there were still a few KB too much used by DOS and drivers to let the game work. I`m still wondering if anyone in the world has ever played this game and what tricks he/she used to get it to run.
Maybe nobody did? Just a bad port? Maybe there was a downloadable patch on the ancient internet?
A trick to make people buy an Amiga? ;-P

From what I remember, Dune II was one of the harder ones to get running with full sound.
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TheDudeLebowski: I used to have different floppies for different games with their respective autoexec.bat and config.sys files to run them. Did you guys do the same or did you redo it every time?

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Trooper1270: Aren't most of them as clueless as their kids, if not more so ?.
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TheDudeLebowski: Ah, true. I randomly overheard many conversations between parents and children that made me glad I'm not bringing anyone into this world.
Yeah, it's quite painful to overhear those sorts of conversations, as there is generally not a lot of sense being shared between the parties involved.
I agree determination is the key I almost always have been a been able to get a game to run sometimes it takes a while.
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OHMYGODJCABOMB: Killing Time: HOLD MY BEER!
Gonna have to do better than that, I'm afraid...

P.S.: DXWnd for the win!
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If you no way could free up enough RAM, and had 640k, you had to change to an older version of DOS that took less RAM. Nowadays it is so easy with DOSBox.
I have a question, which of these dip switches do I enable the 50k memory extension on this Turbo XT?
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Darvond: I have a question, which of these dip switches do I enable the 50k memory extension on this Turbo XT?
I dunno, I think I installed my Apple //e 16kB language card in the wrong slot. I know the floppy drive controller only fits in the sixth slot —— PR#6

:/
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Themken: Hehe!

But you have to admit that the poor person is not amused if they cannot get their games to work. Can you try to think back before you became a lvl 99 wizard at computing?
Hell, back before I got good at computers, I figured it out. I still shudder to think what would happen to people having to set IRQ addresses and proper memory limits because the equipment was not plug and play, the games were not plug and play, and the computers may have hardware that the developer never saw or heard of before. Back before things were fairly standardized, games and hardware didn't like to play nice together. Hell, normal operating procedure was to install the game, troubleshoot the installation, and after a few hours you'd know if you could even play it or not.
I remember how hard it was for me to get the first Monkey Island to run back in the day. I was a 10-year old kid who had only ever used Windows and never even heard of DOS, and I found a Monkey Island trilogy pack at a store and was super excited since I loved the fourth game in the series. Installed the first game, didn't work. Turned out I had to learn how to navigate DOS prompts to run the game. Not the hardest thing in the world, but I felt like a hacker. Don't laugh...

Anyway, we really shouldn't complain too much about modern times because games DO just run most of the time. Not to mention, we now just re-release most classic games anyway and overprice them (looking at you BG:EE), and these newer versions tend to run right away.
Post edited September 08, 2019 by Karterii1993
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Karterii1993: Anyway, we really shouldn't complain too much about modern times because games DO just run most of the time.
That was also true of the old days, for every single type of computer except DOS machines.
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Themken: Hehe!

But you have to admit that the poor person is not amused if they cannot get their games to work. Can you try to think back before you became a lvl 99 wizard at computing?
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paladin181: Hell, back before I got good at computers, I figured it out. I still shudder to think what would happen to people having to set IRQ addresses and proper memory limits because the equipment was not plug and play, the games were not plug and play, and the computers may have hardware that the developer never saw or heard of before. Back before things were fairly standardized, games and hardware didn't like to play nice together. Hell, normal operating procedure was to install the game, troubleshoot the installation, and after a few hours you'd know if you could even play it or not.
Well, you surely don`t know Home Computers.
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Karterii1993: Anyway, we really shouldn't complain too much about modern times because games DO just run most of the time.
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eric5h5: That was also true of the old days, for every single type of computer except DOS machines.
I doubt you had to suffer though tape drives and having to manually wind things to the data track then.
I buy games from GOG too and they also work. We can be friends as we apparently have much in common :D