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I really have not been very active on the forums since 2016 or so, but I am a little confused on some of the rules.

https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/115001814049-Forum-Code-of-Conduct?product=gog

Is thread bumping the same as necroing? And, even if it was, what is the problem with bumping a thread in general if it is not gaining the desired answer or traction? Would it be better if the thread had no traction for several hours and then you create a new one, making duplicate topics? In that case, may as well delete threads after so much time if we are not allowed to comment on something because it was determined to be necro-ed:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/devotion_game_rating_dramatically_drop_within_hours?staff=yes
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/transfer_games_from_one_account_to_another_merge_accounts/post19/?staff=yes

On another note, if you do not want us to create multiple threads on the same topic, no matter how silly or self serving, then let us use old threads that the user thinks is relevant. Besides, if the user thinks you are ignoring them then why should they not be allowed to make a thread voicing their concern where their money and time are concerned.
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_platform_launched_a_30_day_refund_policy_some_people_can_refund_some_people_can_not_refund_is/post3
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/a_community_message_from_many_gamers?staff=yes
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/not_buying_more_games_from_gog_because_of_censorship_not_allowing_devotion?staff=yes

Do the rules say not to make new threads about the same topic? I may have missed that.

Lastly, this is a quote from the forum rules, "Political discussions not related to a video game are not permitted. Threads created exclusively to talk about politics will be locked. Users who ignore this rule repeatedly will be met with moderation."

If that is the case, then why was a thread locked where it concerned the game devotion and politics simultaneously. Unless the reference is to in game politics (Temeria is great, Nilfgaard is not.), in which case I did not understand it to relate to real world politics.

Honest questions, not trying to be mean or anything. I have just seen a lot of locked threads and wanted to know. Thanks in advance.
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AnimalMother117: If that is the case, then why was a thread locked where it concerned the game devotion and politics simultaneously. Unless the reference is to in game politics (Temeria is great, Nilfgaard is not.), in which case I did not understand it to relate to real world politics.
That would be the multiple threads thing I think.
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AnimalMother117: Is thread bumping the same as necroing?
No.

Necroing means replying to an old thread that is no longer being discussed.

Thread bumping means deliberately posting useless messages just to keep the thread on the first forum page.

In some rare cases those two can happen simultaneously, especially on forums where threads can stay on the first page for months because there's not much activity, and bumping a thread is also necroing an old discussion.
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AnimalMother117: If that is the case, then why was a thread locked where it concerned the game devotion and politics simultaneously. Unless the reference is to in game politics (Temeria is great, Nilfgaard is not.), in which case I did not understand it to relate to real world politics.
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Sachys: That would be the multiple threads thing I think.
Probably, I should have assumed as much. Thanks for your reply.
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AnimalMother117: Is thread bumping the same as necroing?
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PixelBoy: No.

Necroing means replying to an old thread that is no longer being discussed.

Thread bumping means deliberately posting useless messages just to keep the thread on the first forum page.

In some rare cases those two can happen simultaneously, especially on forums where threads can stay on the first page for months because there's not much activity, and bumping a thread is also necroing an old discussion.
Thanks for the reply. I would agree that bumping with the word bump is not very good for the discussion but think that it is somewhat justifiable if an answer was otherwise not forthcoming. I am not really sure why necroing would get a thread locked, in which case they should just automatically lock threads older than a predetermined amount of time.
Post edited December 18, 2020 by AnimalMother117
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yeah the rules are vague to a point so whatever you write can be considered breaking the rules, welcome to censorship
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AnimalMother117: Is thread bumping the same as necroing?
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PixelBoy: No.

Necroing means replying to an old thread that is no longer being discussed.

Thread bumping means deliberately posting useless messages just to keep the thread on the first forum page.

In some rare cases those two can happen simultaneously, especially on forums where threads can stay on the first page for months because there's not much activity, and bumping a thread is also necroing an old discussion.
I never got that, or why that is bad, got banned due to reply to a bug thread at game subforum , and we all know those are so rarely used
but if you reply doesn't that mean the discussion continues? what if that bug can be fixed now , shouldnt i reply to help someone who looks at it later?:O
Post edited December 18, 2020 by Orkhepaj
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AnimalMother117: I really have not been very active on the forums since 2016 or so, but I am a little confused on some of the rules.

https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/115001814049-Forum-Code-of-Conduct?product=gog

Is thread bumping the same as necroing? And, even if it was, what is the problem with bumping a thread in general if it is not gaining the desired answer or traction? Would it be better if the thread had no traction for several hours and then you create a new one, making duplicate topics? In that case, may as well delete threads after so much time if we are not allowed to comment on something because it was determined to be necro-ed:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/devotion_game_rating_dramatically_drop_within_hours?staff=yes
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/transfer_games_from_one_account_to_another_merge_accounts/post19/?staff=yes

On another note, if you do not want us to create multiple threads on the same topic, no matter how silly or self serving, then let us use old threads that the user thinks is relevant. Besides, if the user thinks you are ignoring them then why should they not be allowed to make a thread voicing their concern where their money and time are concerned.
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_platform_launched_a_30_day_refund_policy_some_people_can_refund_some_people_can_not_refund_is/post3
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/a_community_message_from_many_gamers?staff=yes
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/not_buying_more_games_from_gog_because_of_censorship_not_allowing_devotion?staff=yes

Do the rules say not to make new threads about the same topic? I may have missed that.

Lastly, this is a quote from the forum rules, "Political discussions not related to a video game are not permitted. Threads created exclusively to talk about politics will be locked. Users who ignore this rule repeatedly will be met with moderation."

If that is the case, then why was a thread locked where it concerned the game devotion and politics simultaneously. Unless the reference is to in game politics (Temeria is great, Nilfgaard is not.), in which case I did not understand it to relate to real world politics.

Honest questions, not trying to be mean or anything. I have just seen a lot of locked threads and wanted to know. Thanks in advance.
Forum rules are very simple to understand no matter how they are worded.
In plain English it means they can lock any thread they don't like, they can ban any user they don't like, or in even more simple terms, they can do whatever they want in the forums and we, the users have to comply "cuz its the rulez".
Its the same everywhere not only here, and its not only on gaming forums, its literally everywhere.
Glad there are still people like you that are noticing it and talking about it.
Cheers
Post edited December 18, 2020 by kaboro
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AnimalMother117:
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kaboro: Forum rules are very simple to understand no matter how they are worded.
In plain English it means they can lock any thread they don't like, they can ban any user they don't like, or in even more simple terms, they can do whatever they want in the forums and we, the users have to comply "cuz its the rulez".
Its the same everywhere not only here, and its not only on gaming forums, its literally everywhere.
Glad there are still people like you that are noticing it and talking about it.
Cheers
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Post edited December 18, 2020 by AnimalMother117
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Why? They work sometimes but not lately.
1) Necroposting is not the same as thread bumping, but one often leads to the other; this is typically controlled with forced archivals, thread closures after inactivity, and shooting any short post down with a shotgun, with the occasional mass cleanup of threads. (I'm from older world foruming where if you wanted to be a sugar kid, the IRC channel was over there.)

2) Hypothetically, yes. But it's more a matter of clutter than strict enforcement. If GOG actually had forum tools, they could merge all the offending threads into one and make it obvious. IE: [Posts merged from Topic 7.]

3) This is complicated. There's this thing called Godwin's Law; that I'll paraphrase in gist: Any discussion that goes on long enough will eventually derail to head towards darker waters. Many posters here lack basic self control, so many threads that originally would have carefully discussed politics in games (such as Metal Gear Solid saying War is Bad) would quickly get derailed into irrelevant discussions; often about real life, current events. That's where the problem lies.
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Darvond: 1) Necroposting is not the same as thread bumping, but one often leads to the other; this is typically controlled with forced archivals, thread closures after inactivity, and shooting any short post down with a shotgun, with the occasional mass cleanup of threads. (I'm from older world foruming where if you wanted to be a sugar kid, the IRC channel was over there.)

2) Hypothetically, yes. But it's more a matter of clutter than strict enforcement. If GOG actually had forum tools, they could merge all the offending threads into one and make it obvious. IE: [Posts merged from Topic 7.]

3) This is complicated. There's this thing called Godwin's Law; that I'll paraphrase in gist: Any discussion that goes on long enough will eventually derail to head towards darker waters. Many posters here lack basic self control, so many threads that originally would have carefully discussed politics in games (such as Metal Gear Solid saying War is Bad) would quickly get derailed into irrelevant discussions; often about real life, current events. That's where the problem lies.
Why is that a problem?
I can't see why it is a problem if a game with politics in it gets viewed in current rl events and trends.
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Orkhepaj: Why is that a problem?
I can't see why it is a problem if a game with politics in it gets viewed in current rl events and trends.
It quickly devolves into the typically juvenile namecalling that would cause the threads to get locked; if not worse than simple namecalling.

Now I'm going to deviate a little and ask why this doesn't seem like a flash of the blindingly obvious.
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Orkhepaj: Why is that a problem?
I can't see why it is a problem if a game with politics in it gets viewed in current rl events and trends.
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Darvond: It quickly devolves into the typically juvenile namecalling that would cause the threads to get locked; if not worse than simple namecalling.

Now I'm going to deviate a little and ask why this doesn't seem like a flash of the blindingly obvious.
Only if closed-minded people join the conversation, they bring their dogmatic approach and if you deny those you are labeled as troll and evil, then they start the name-calling etc. .
Just remove them from the forum, and we can have good fruitful conversations.
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Orkhepaj: Only if closed-minded people join the conversation, they bring their dogmatic approach and if you deny those you are labeled as troll and evil, then they start the name-calling etc. .
Just remove them from the forum, and we can have good fruitful conversations.
That would require administrative staff with masterful inactivity & catlike observation and for them to be vertebrates. We're lucky to have a single moderator to cover one hour.
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AnimalMother117: If that is the case, then why was a thread locked where it concerned the game devotion and politics simultaneously.
Because GOG is touchy on the subject of Devotion. They don't like being called out on the fact that they bowed down to the CCP and obey them to the point that they not only lock the game in China, but don't release it at all. World wide.

That decision by GOG is inherently political. So they can use the 'no politics' rule to close down topics about it that get too uncomfortable.
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Darvond: That would require administrative staff with masterful inactivity & catlike observation and for them to be vertebrates. We're lucky to have a single moderator to cover one hour.
That's why we have CMs, several of them....and new forum staffers as well.