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I think it's ok for them to experiment with their business model. When I look at a bundle personally, I look for games I know already I want, then I look at the other titles to see which ones are "maybe, need to see the trailer", watch the trailer and if it isn't an actual trailer that includes gameplay and what the game is about (ie: just movie cutscenes and marketing) I go find gameplay trailers for it on Youtube, then make a yeah or nay decision on it, then go to the next game. I can usually pick out games of genres I'm not interested in from the box art etc. so I can quickly gauge the number of titles I might play. Then I divide the cost of the bundle by the number of games I care about and I ask myself if each of the games that I care about is worth that fraction of the bundle price. Sometimes it is and sometimes it isn't. I also take into account how much wall clock time of entertainment the game(s) I'll actually play will likely bring me, and see if the price per assumed entertainment hours is likely worth it. I'd say if a bundle has 2 or 3 titles I will play for sure, even if I only play each of them for a few hours on one day, that pretty much gets my money's worth like going to the theatre or renting a movie or similar.

But, the extra games can become giveaways for others who like them, or barter in trade for another game I do actually want, so they have value too which might tilt me to buy the bundle. If you can't trade or give away the games you wont play then they effectively become more or less useless and I'll have to judge the bundle solely on the games I am interested in.

That means I'll probably buy less bundles unless they have mostly games I want. That's fine by me though as there are lots of bundles on the market now. Personally I think bundlestars.com is the best out there, I've bought 10 of their bundles so far.

Humble's experiment will work out or not, if it does they'll probably keep doing it. If not, they'll probably change back to doing it the way they did before. Best thing to do in the mean time is to find out from someone who has bought the same bundle you're interested in whether it is individual keys per game like you expect, or some one size fits all deal. Better that than a surprise after the fact. :)

Anyhow, just some food for thought.
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kalirion: For the games already owned, does the "redeem" link stay in place?

I didn't even try it myself that far, I just unlinked and relinked my second account to redeem the dupes.
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amok: Yes, and it can be redeemed on anther account
maybe you want to send your passwords and logins around - i do not.

Look - i pay gladly much more for value and for whatever i think is "right".

This system i do not like and i do not find it of the same value as the previous separate keys way.

I do not trade keys, i do not sell them - i simply like to be able give a key to anyone i happen to want to give the key for. My brothers, my friends, just some random guy i happen to chat with, our BB league prize pool - the list goes on.

For that sort of thing i wouldnt mind if these bundles had even "floor prize", meaning proper minimum price instead of 1usd - IF THE KEYS WERE SEPARATE.

we'll see how it goes later on. there are lots of other bundle sites ofcourse, so its not like its not the end of the world whatever HB decides to do with their thing. Its just a bit of shame.
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amok: Yes, and it can be redeemed on anther account
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iippo: maybe you want to send your passwords and logins around - i do not.

Look - i pay gladly much more for value and for whatever i think is "right".

This system i do not like and i do not find it of the same value as the previous separate keys way.

I do not trade keys, i do not sell them - i simply like to be able give a key to anyone i happen to want to give the key for. My brothers, my friends, just some random guy i happen to chat with, our BB league prize pool - the list goes on.

For that sort of thing i wouldnt mind if these bundles had even "floor prize", meaning proper minimum price instead of 1usd - IF THE KEYS WERE SEPARATE.

we'll see how it goes later on. there are lots of other bundle sites ofcourse, so its not like its not the end of the world whatever HB decides to do with their thing. Its just a bit of shame.
ummm..... I just answered then mans question... sorry.
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amok: ummm..... I just answered then mans question... sorry.
heh. hot issue. should perhaps put few (any) seconds more of thought before posting myself ;)
This just makes it easier to keep ignoring the weekly sales. The main bundles will probably end up the same, so this gives people less incentive to BTA, especially if they already have some of the games. I also don't like the idea of adding a third party in the chain of redeeming a key on your account.

Oh well, more money for other games.
I really want the soundtracks as I have no idea how long GOG and Team17 will sit on their hands over bringing these here so I may throw 1c at them. I only want the Armageddon game, which I have on CD somewhere anyway, so the rest are useless to me.
As for the new Steam system, it may suck, but when they stopped the regular DRM-free downloads I just pickup the must play games or good soundtracks and chuck the rest of the rubbish.
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Fictionvision: This just makes it easier to keep ignoring the weekly sales. The main bundles will probably end up the same, so this gives people less incentive to BTA, especially if they already have some of the games. I also don't like the idea of adding a third party in the chain of redeeming a key on your account.

Oh well, more money for other games.
Well, I have a funny feeling that HB will be going with this system indefinitely now. No matter - as far as I'm concerned, they're essentially the laughing stock of the bundle market at the moment.

I used to pay in excess of $25 for Humble Bundles to support them, now I just pay the absolute bare minimum for cheap games. I have no more faith in their cause.
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amok: New system!

I like this, activate directly on your account, not need to mess around with keys. Well done!
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iippo: ...kinda would have wanted to gift the "excess" keys to family and friends.

Does not prompt me to pay more than the minimum price.
If you were planning to pay more than minimum I don't see how it's a problem to split it into two purchases to be honest ...

Glad to see this implemented (for all Steam bundles at least), finally done with all the Humble trading. It was a horrible practice, especially in the beginning. Bit better since they put the $1 limit.
Post edited October 31, 2013 by Pheace
Such a disappointment! Humble seems to have completely abandoned any attempts to add value to their bundles. The new system doesn't appear to be any more burdensome than the previous one, but it also seems entirely pointless. This works about as well as single keys to prevent bundle-splitting. It might have made sense if the bundle had DRM-free copies, but it seems Humble doesn't give a damn about those any more. So customers get nothing positive, while Humble get a supposed check on people... who want to split up the games and the soundtracks. Woop-dee-doo.

I, for one, believe that bundle-splitting contributes to Humble's sales and popularity, and I hope their future revenues prove this true.
Linux:
Superfrog HD

Mac:
Worms Crazy Golf
Superfrog HD

Everything Steam.

I'll just nope on out of here then.
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amok: You still can do. I know how to do it with family, but not with strangers, as you need to give them access to your humble account, or they need to give you access to their steam account. As I and my better half know each others steam accounts, there is nothing stopping me from activating half the games on her steam account, and the other half on my steam account.
Do I understand it correctly that you feel it is ok (and maybe even have been) splitting Humble (and Indie) bundles with one's better half or (other) close family members?
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amok: You still can do. I know how to do it with family, but not with strangers, as you need to give them access to your humble account, or they need to give you access to their steam account. As I and my better half know each others steam accounts, there is nothing stopping me from activating half the games on her steam account, and the other half on my steam account.
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HypersomniacLive: Do I understand it correctly that you feel it is ok (and maybe even have been) splitting Humble (and Indie) bundles with one's better half or (other) close family members?
same as with gog - I see it as household license (and if you are trying to catch me out, I have said so all the time...).
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Spinorial: Such a disappointment! Humble seems to have completely abandoned any attempts to add value to their bundles. The new system doesn't appear to be any more burdensome than the previous one, but it also seems entirely pointless. This works about as well as single keys to prevent bundle-splitting. It might have made sense if the bundle had DRM-free copies, but it seems Humble doesn't give a damn about those any more. So customers get nothing positive, while Humble get a supposed check on people... who want to split up the games and the soundtracks. Woop-dee-doo.

I, for one, believe that bundle-splitting contributes to Humble's sales and popularity, and I hope their future revenues prove this true.
I think you're focusing on the wrong thing here. This probably isn't about Bundle Splitting anymore but people stocking up on Humble Bundle keys for peanuts, and then reselling them.
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011284mm: I really want the soundtracks as I have no idea how long GOG and Team17 will sit on their hands over bringing these here so I may throw 1c at them. I only want the Armageddon game, which I have on CD somewhere anyway, so the rest are useless to me.
As for the new Steam system, it may suck, but when they stopped the regular DRM-free downloads I just pickup the must play games or good soundtracks and chuck the rest of the rubbish.
This is what ive been doing. Its obvious HiB have gone for the $$$ hard & dropped their principles. Shame they dont have a forum (twitter doesnt count) buyers or people can rant about. Time to make a thread i think lol.
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Pheace: I think you're focusing on the wrong thing here. This probably isn't about Bundle Splitting anymore but people stocking up on Humble Bundle keys for peanuts, and then reselling them.
Perhaps. But that should still be better handled by some alternate method of limiting purchases. You can still buy gifts, right? And buy them for a dollar? I'm not sure how this stops people from buying many copies and re-selling them. Call me thick.