Posted May 09, 2014
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Posted May 09, 2014
No it is a DD client that provides many optional services on top of just distibution. It happens to offer DRM functionality but developers and publishers are free not use them if they want to. Some of the games on Steam don't use any DRM.
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Posted May 09, 2014
Well Steam is certainly DRM, no arguments there. However, if I can copy/paste Steam game folders onto other PCs for playing WITHOUT Steam, I am okay with that, and will continue buying Steam "DRM-free" games; granted, however, I don't get installers for these types of games, but the applications work and if I have enough memory, then it's not a problem for me.
Also, another reason I like DRM-free steam games is that I can play and download stuff at the same time, so that's nifty.
That's a cool point! I hope more devs take this approach to steam and forgo the DRM provisions.
Also, another reason I like DRM-free steam games is that I can play and download stuff at the same time, so that's nifty.
That's a cool point! I hope more devs take this approach to steam and forgo the DRM provisions.
Post edited May 09, 2014 by cmdr_flashheart
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Posted May 09, 2014
Kristian: No it is a DD client that provides many optional services on top of just distibution. It happens to offer DRM functionality but developers and publishers are free not use them if they want to. Some of the games on Steam don't use any DRM.
That's essentially what I've called "DRM-free-lite" or "DRM-lite" - similar to the Gamersgate model - where a DRM-free version is usually possible but they make you jump through hoops to get it, and where the final result is so inelegant that you might as well just buy it off Humble Store or GOG in the first place (assuming HS offers it DRM-free, which is becoming an increasing rarity there). Also, there is a minority of games available on Steam where you get a registration code that you can use elsewhere to download a DRM-free version. Obviously The Witcher 1 & 2 fall under this umbrella, as do the Mount & Blade games. Anyone know of others?
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Posted May 09, 2014
jamyskis: Also, there is a minority of games available on Steam where you get a registration code that you can use elsewhere to download a DRM-free version. Obviously The Witcher 1 & 2 fall under this umbrella, as do the Mount & Blade games. Anyone know of others?
This is perfectly fine. I've bought some of Arcen Game's titles on Steam when they were on sale knowing I could grab the versions on his site. Offline CD-key required, but I'm fine with that. Mount and Blade still requires online authentication though.
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Posted May 09, 2014
cmdr_flashheart: Well Steam is certainly DRM, no arguments there. However, if I can copy/paste Steam game folders onto other PCs for playing WITHOUT Steam, I am okay with that, and will continue buying Steam "DRM-free" games; granted, however, I don't get installers for these types of games, but the applications work and if I have enough memory, then it's not a problem for me.
That's a cool point! I hope more devs take this approach to steam and forgo the DRM provisions.
amok: "Digital Rights Management (DRM) is a class of technologies[1] that are used by hardware manufacturers, publishers, copyright holders, and individuals with the intent to control the use of digital content and devices after sale;" That's a cool point! I hope more devs take this approach to steam and forgo the DRM provisions.
If you "copy/paste Steam game folders onto other PCs for playing WITHOUT Steam," then per this definition Steam itself is not DRM.
However, I have been able to play many Steam DRM-free games without logging into steam client on a PC which has Steam client installed; I don't know if having the client there makes a difference. But what I like most of all is being able to download Steam games and play Steam games at the same time.
Also, I think that DRM-free games by definition should also include uninhibited access to game installers, which Steam DRM-free games do not allow.
Post edited May 09, 2014 by cmdr_flashheart
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Posted May 09, 2014
Didnt some of the Arcen games (Valley without wind, AI war) fall into this territory too? Specifically A Valley without wind 1 and Tidalis (and AI war/Some expansions) with the trial versions on their site?