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finkleroy: That's true. However, I noticed that on Fanatical, you can buy a Steam key for just the "Definitive Edition Upgrade". It's normally USD $29.99, but it's currently on sale for USD $14.99.
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TheMonkofDestiny: Still getting a sour deal currently. The lowest price the definitive (actual definitive, that is) was at during the recent run of holiday hooplahs was under $20USD, so assuming one pays at the lowest "classic" (~$12USD) price for the Humble swindle edition and decides to go for the Fanatical upgrade while it's on sale - they'll be paying at least ~$7USD more combined than the lowest for the game + the additional content on the recent sale.

It'll likely be months before the upgrade drops into a reasonable sale price that makes it less of a complete shafting to those who bought in on the Choice offer solely for that game.
of course, SE could always come and hand humble enough keys to upgrade for everyone that is currently a choice member, classic grandfathered plans included. I would imagine humble will fix this issue as the other times I got something in a similar boat to Tomb Raider (have not paid yet for this month but I will on the 27th) has had all the DLC (Arkham Knight and MGSV). I would wait a few days before complaining though-altho the way it is advertised is annoying at best with the confusion-why could humble not just label it as the BASE GAME unless they found out at the last minute the keys were just the base.
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wizisi2k: I would wait a few days before complaining though
I don't have anything to contact them about, I don't subscribe to this stuff and this is part of the reason why I don't.

I doubt they do anything to "fix" it. They added the little notice, which is better than the nothing that was there when it first went live, but I expect that to be the end of it with anyone contacting support in a fit about it getting what will likely become a stock response of "We're sorry, but we clearly mention that it is for the game only. All other additional content does not come included with it."
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MadalinStroe: I guess form now on, we'll have an entry under the keys section of our account, like the one from the first image. When you decide to make a choice, you get an option like the one from the second image.

"Get the game", adds the game card to your keys section of your account, and reveals the key. While the "gift to friend", generates the usual gift link.
Sorry for being so slow on the uptake, but I think I still haven't understood what's the big difference to before, apart from it being a bit more roundabout, what with additional windows opening and such. Do you have to redeem right after buying?

I thought you'd select a number of games, pay and then get a bundle page with those selected games, similar to how it was before. Do you now get "x" choice tickets instead and have to choose/unlock/redeem each game individually before the month runs out - after paying?
Post edited December 08, 2019 by Leroux
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Leroux: Sorry for being so slow on the uptake, but I think I still haven't understood what's the big difference to before, apart from it being a bit more roundabout, what with additional windows opening and such.
That's pretty much it - it's more roundabaout and inconsistent with the way every single other bundle works.
Do you have to redeem right after buying?
No you don't.
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Leroux: Do you now get "x" choice tickets instead and have to choose/unlock/redeem each game individually before the month runs out - after paying?
There is no "x" choice. You simply choose the titles you want, up to the number allowed by your subscription. According to the response kalirion received on twitter, you seem to be able to make your choices whenever you want, since there doesn't seem to be a timeframe after which the keys would be forfeit.
Post edited December 09, 2019 by MadalinStroe
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kalirion:
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MadalinStroe: There is no "x" choice. You simply choose the titles you want, up to the number allowed by subscription. According to the response kalirion received on twitter, you seem to be able to make your choices whenever you want, since there doesn't seem to be a timeframe after which the keys would be forfeit.
I see, thanks for the replies! That makes this re-design and wording even more unnecessary and confusing then ...
If anyone's still interested, and checking this thread, if you have the base game of Shadow of the Tomb Raider, you can currently upgrade it with all the DLC on the Steam store for USD $11.21. Even if you don't care about the Croft Edition Extras or the Deluxe Extras, it's still cheaper than buying the Definitive Edition Upgrade on its own on Fanatical for USD $14.99.
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finkleroy: If anyone's still interested, and checking this thread, if you have the base game of Shadow of the Tomb Raider, you can currently upgrade it with all the DLC on the Steam store for USD $11.21. Even if you don't care about the Croft Edition Extras or the Deluxe Extras, it's still cheaper than buying the Definitive Edition Upgrade on its own on Fanatical for USD $14.99.
thanks for heads-up. That's very kind of you +1
Seeing mentions of people getting surveys from Humble again. The last time they did this most assume the data they collected from it helped shape the pricing of Monthly/Choice. Apparently they're also trying to gauge how easy it is to manage things on the website (I saw one person say something about questions related to keys - so if they roll out a change there in the future, I'd start sweating about them potentially invalidating any unrevealed keys you aren't keeping track of yourselves).
Here's a reminder for those of you who bought in when Overwatch (and its subsequent loot boxes) were included in Monthly - the deadline to redeem those keys for the game and in-game tat is swiftly approaching: do it by December 31st or bid it bon voyage.

Instructions here in case the above applies to you.
Post edited December 26, 2019 by TheMonkofDestiny
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TheMonkofDestiny: Seeing mentions of people getting surveys from Humble again. The last time they did this most assume the data they collected from it helped shape the pricing of Monthly/Choice. Apparently they're also trying to gauge how easy it is to manage things on the website (I saw one person say something about questions related to keys - so if they roll out a change there in the future, I'd start sweating about them potentially invalidating any unrevealed keys you aren't keeping track of yourselves).
I've had at least 2 disappear from my keys library over there. I found out as I was doing my giveaway. So it could be happening...
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paladin181: I've had at least 2 disappear from my keys library over there. I found out as I was doing my giveaway. So it could be happening...
It tracks with a lot of screwiness people have reported with it. Sometimes people don't see the key boxes at all, sometimes people see the key boxes but nothing's propagated into them. Not to mention the reports of people just simply getting hosed on keys for titles in things like the previous Monthly bundles which didn't include them initially (mostly related to the Humble Originals that later got picked up on Steam like Ethereal and Macdows 95 but not limited to just those apparently).

Ever since Valve had to put the boot to the throats of scuzzbucket developers and publishers abusing things like their trading card system via flooding the market with keys to games they had a hand in (whether it was by giveaway, stupidly cheap bundles or just third-party authorized sellers doing "get this game for peanuts" style discounts) it's seemingly turned off the key faucet for the ones doing things through acceptable and less sleazy avenues and the result is to the similar tune of "Well, thanks a lot Humble/IGN - I didn't need a key for something I paid you for, now I wonder if I should consider legal action?"

My personal experience with this thus far was when I bought a Steam key for the first Mafia via Humble Store (I would've bought it here on GOG, but I'm abysmally cheap and not flush with money so I go for the deals when I see them and have the money to spend). Apparently I wasn't alone at the time in thinking "dang, this is a pretty decent deal" because by the time I paid for the order and went to look at the key page I saw the "Keys for this product are temporarily unavailable. We're working on getting more as soon as we can!" placeholder message and it took just shy of 3 days before a key was actually where it was supposed to be. I'd hate to be the people who've seen that damn message for weeks, if not months or more in the hopes that a key would actually materialize at some point.

Of course, it'd cut back on a lot of disappointment and emails flooding their support staff if they'd take hours out of a few days to have someone code up a notification system for customers to know when keys are added to games in bundles that previously didn't have them so those customers who do happen to care about that sort of thing can act accordingly in a more timely fashion.
Post edited January 03, 2020 by TheMonkofDestiny
First Humble Choice of 2020 is on deck:

Graveyard Keeper
Middle-Earth: Shadow of War (unknown as of my posting as to whether it's the definitive edition, but based on the SRP for the entry it seems like it probably isn't - at least it isn't a repeat of the bullplop with Shadow of the Tomb Raider)
Two Point Hospital
Dirt Rally 2.0
Trailmakers
Unrailed
GRIP: Combat Racing
Them's Fightin' Herds
Mages of Mystralia
Whispers of a Machine
Bad North: Jotunn Edition
Street Fighter V (assumed to be the base game as well, since the Champion Edition upgrade isn't available until February 14th)
Post edited January 03, 2020 by TheMonkofDestiny
A lot of stuff I'm intereted in in there.

But now I'm worried that my ' don't make any choices and pause' strategy didn't actually work last month- I was 'paused' on the day I was scheduled to pay, but if I go into my subscription page, I still have a 'make my choices' button on the December bundle- the one I thought I wasn't going to get.

So now I need to check my credit card statement to see if I was charged at some point.
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TheMonkofDestiny: First Humble Choice of 2020 is on deck:
Interestingly enough, the number of available games is 12, meaning that even Classic subscribers won't be able to get them all.
Post edited January 03, 2020 by Grargar