The law? If something like that starts up, it won't take long for laws to shut it down.

Why this need to *force* us to follow laws? Most people are law abiding when they are treated well. Sure, there are people who have no respect for laws - they will always exist - but how about a little trust for those of us who want to be customers.

If I remember well, the refunds system only work for games bought on Steam itself. Any game from outside does not apply to such refunds. And even then, the refunds system is pretty much limited if what I heard about it being a two hour after the purchase is true. There are games that could be broken beyond the 2 hours mark.

I understand your sentiment here. There are certainly issues with it, but I am hoping that with its implementation it hopefully will stop some developers from even releasing broken/crappy games.

I know only enough to know that I know nothing of this subject, so I'll just post a [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pirate_Bay]links and let others who are more educated on the topic enlighten you further. (FYI: There's also a free documentary about TPB's legal troubles in GOG's movies section. I haven't watched it, though.)

"The Pirate Bay"
Welp, that explains everything I need to know already.
Ah, gotcha. Alright, that's understandable.
I wasn't here to hear about it, but wow. Sorry to hear about that. Alright, I can understand your paranoia, then. As I've said before, it's only fine if you have a stable internet connection (although the same could be said when you're downloading the game). Otherwise, yeah, I can see where you're coming from. The issue of internet still sort of shifts the argument to physical copies of games rather than DRM, but let's not go there in this thread. Carry on, then.

The idea that a game could be so good that one should ignore the DRM is absurd to me, as the only games where I would not mind the DRM do not interest me enough to even want to try them out regardless of how cheap they are.

Humble has not been able to sell me any of it's bundles that have more than zero Steam-exclusive games.

I only focus on price so for me Humble Bundle wins. I don't care about DRM. If someone wants to monitor your pc activities then they can just access your computer as long as you have internet connection provided they are really good hackers.

But back to the point-
If I can get 6 triple A title games for less than $10 in one bundle, then how cool is that.

However, gog has better customer service and every single game is high quality.

And even before the incident, Steam was downgrading while Origin was upgrading. What? Steam got trading cards and some useless full screen UI? And its still messy as hell? What, Origin is solid and fast? And it works more than Steam ever does?

It does not only shift the argument to physical copies but it still ends back up in DRM. In my case, I had DRM for a little while. Then, *poof!* That's what happened. The result is:

1. No DRM'd games would work properly. Yes your already downloaded and installed games would not work.
2. Physical copies with mandatory Steam registrations or whatever wouldn't work because, duh, DRM!

If it were for the download, that wouldn't be a problem as much as having to keep an account logged in along with a client and an always-on DRM. Humble Bundle and GOG DRM-free alleviates this issue even if they are reliant on a download, as I get to back them up to DVDs and HDDs later on.

Humble all the way. If I'm going to get screwed over by a site's willing refusal to use CAD, I'm going to at least get a game that's supported 6 months down the line.

Then you probably love Sim City...

(although Sim City isn't on HB)

Is Sim City actually a good game though? (I've heard Cities: Skyline blows it out of the water).

To my knowledge, no...

Something like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuQLMXyGQOE , but TPB isn't really trustworthy right now (that I've heard/read) most uses the Kitten now.


After the fiasco with EA's always on DRM with Sim City, anything is better, Even the Pirated copy was way better than the Retail one

Thought the same when first saw this. Must be the latest trend to blend in with the community.