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dtgreene: I consider DRM to be unethical and therefore say that I would be worse off with the bundle than without it.

I have actually been known to buy bundles for 99 cents *just* to avoid getting the Steam keys.
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zeogold: Honestly, I've never understood why some of the people on here are so touchy about it. It's always been around and it's always going to be around, and if it wasn't around, chances are that we'd eventually get a whole pack of idiots who'd pirate like mad. Annoying, yes, but it's not so evil we need to break out the pitchforks and torches about it.
Plus, if you're THAT convinced you don't want to give them your money, why not just set the slider to donate all of your money to charity?
One thing is that, if a game is DRM encumbered, pirated versions (which lack the DRM) are more valuable than legitimate versions of the game. Therefore, if we pretend that the pirated version costs the same, it is still better to pirate the game than to buy it. Therefore, DRM might actually increase piracy rather than reduce it.

To put it another way, DRM punishes the legit owner and doesn't affect the pirate.

For DRM free versions, this no longer applies.

Also, the problem with current DRM is that there is a good chance that it will make the game not work 30 years from now.
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dtgreene: I don't like Humbe Bundle because they encourage DRM by selling DRM-encumbered games, and when I last checked, I didn't see a way to filter the store to only show DRM-free games.

These days, when I buy a bundle from there, the Humble Tip gets none of my money. (The Electronic Frontier Foundation gets would would otherwise be the Humble Tip portion when possible.)
https://www.humblebundle.com/store/search/drm/download
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zeogold: It's not worth it for the games you DO want? I just buy the bundles, play the games I want to play, and trade or give away the rest. I bought the last Nordic Games bundle just for Book of Unwritten Tales 2. At $10, it was cheaper than I've ever seen it on sale anywhere else, it's DRM-free, and I got a whole load of other games for free (some of which, the Black Mirror series, I actually ended up playing and enjoying).
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seppelfred: I bought BOUT 2 for 8.29 Euros here on GOG at the winter sale.
Even still, I got the entire Black Mirror series along with it, plus a load of other games I gave to friends. I say I got a much better deal.
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zeogold: Price:
Humble Bundle wins. By a longshot. You can almost always get at least 3 games for just a dollar, and at that, you usually get free Steam keys with 'em, too.

Quantity:
GOG has the bigger selection and older games, but Humble is slowly improving as it gets better deals. You gotta cut Humble a little slack though, because I imagine it's much harder to convince a developer to sell a game as packaged "shovelware" rather than full-price on a store.

Choice:
GOG has the better games, hands-down. Humble has been frequently criticized for bundling low-to-mid-quality indie games. They occasionally crank out a few gold mines, but it all depends.

Customer service:
Gog wins. Not only are they always helpful and looking for ways to improve the community, but they're kind and have a money-back-guarantee policy on games that don't work. If Humble has this, I am not aware of it.

My verdict:
I gotta go with Humble, despite saying this on a GOG forum and despite how much hate I'm gonna get from the fanboys. As much as I love GOG and being able to play games I never could otherwise, Humble is expanding rapidly, and not only do I get free Steam keys with my games, but I can also donate to any charity of my choosing and decide how much of my money goes where. Nobody else lets you do that.

Editing in progress: Typing up typical review style for both GOG and Humble Bundle

GOG:
+1 for having old games
+1 for being committed to DRM-free games
+1 for having a useful, active community which also frequently gives free games
+1 for having good customer support
+1 for offering frequent sales
+1 for having downloader and Galaxy for easy download/organization of games
+1 for almost always including extra goodies with games

+0 for nearly useless friend system
-0 for not being able to buy multiple games at once
-0 for having non-organizable wishlist system
-0 for not being able to delete certain people from chat so they're not still on your list

Overall score: 9/10

Humble Bundle:
+1 for having cheap games
+1 for including Steam keys
+1 for sometimes including Android games
+1 for having multiple platforms
+1 for having DRM-free games
+1 for option to donate money to charity and decide what portion of the money goes where
+1 for having very frequent change in bundles
+1 for not always selling games, sometimes movies, books, magazines, and developing tools
+1 for now having the option to pick your own charity

-0 for having no community, because they're really just a storefront and don't need it
+0 for lack of dowlnoader of any sort
-0 for bad game choices because these rotate in and out frequently, plus, this gives the opportunity for some otherwise-unknown indie developers to get themselves out there

Overall score:
10/10

Basically, Humble is better if you want to save money, while GOG is the more "upper-class" way to buy games. Even if you hate Steam keys, you can just keep what you want and ditch what you don't with Humble. Hate the company or the developers? Give to charity. Don't like the charity featured? Pick your own. It's a win-win any way you look at it.
This brings up an interesting point for me. How does Humble Bundle handle updates for these games and does it get updates the same time as Steam does for the titles?

Anyone know about this?
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zeogold: Honestly, I've never understood why some of the people on here are so touchy about it. It's always been around and it's always going to be around, and if it wasn't around, chances are that we'd eventually get a whole pack of idiots who'd pirate like mad. Annoying, yes, but it's not so evil we need to break out the pitchforks and torches about it.
Plus, if you're THAT convinced you don't want to give them your money, why not just set the slider to donate all of your money to charity?
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dtgreene: One thing is that, if a game is DRM encumbered, pirated versions (which lack the DRM) are more valuable than legitimate versions of the game. Therefore, if we pretend that the pirated version costs the same, it is still better to pirate the game than to buy it. Therefore, DRM might actually increase piracy rather than reduce it.

To put it another way, DRM punishes the legit owner and doesn't affect the pirate.

For DRM free versions, this no longer applies.

Also, the problem with current DRM is that there is a good chance that it will make the game not work 30 years from now.
Again, you haven't answered my last question. If you hate it so much, why not just give away what you don't want or change the slider to donate everything to a charity of your choosing?
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dtgreene: I consider DRM to be unethical and therefore say that I would be worse off with the bundle than without it.

I have actually been known to buy bundles for 99 cents *just* to avoid getting the Steam keys.
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zeogold: Honestly, I've never understood why some of the people on here are so touchy about it. It's always been around and it's always going to be around, and if it wasn't around, chances are that we'd eventually get a whole pack of idiots who'd pirate like mad. Annoying, yes, but it's not so evil we need to break out the pitchforks and torches about it.
Plus, if you're THAT convinced you don't want to give them your money, why not just set the slider to donate all of your money to charity?
You're on the internet-the land of extremists.
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zeogold: It's not worth it for the games you DO want? I just buy the bundles, play the games I want to play, and trade or give away the rest. I bought the last Nordic Games bundle just for Book of Unwritten Tales 2. At $10, it was cheaper than I've ever seen it on sale anywhere else, it's DRM-free, and I got a whole load of other games for free (some of which, the Black Mirror series, I actually ended up playing and enjoying).
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seppelfred: I bought BOUT 2 for 8.29 Euros here on GOG at the winter sale.
Lol you could have bought it on Steam with achievements.
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zeogold: Honestly, I've never understood why some of the people on here are so touchy about it. It's always been around and it's always going to be around, and if it wasn't around, chances are that we'd eventually get a whole pack of idiots who'd pirate like mad. Annoying, yes, but it's not so evil we need to break out the pitchforks and torches about it.
Plus, if you're THAT convinced you don't want to give them your money, why not just set the slider to donate all of your money to charity?
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Mr.Caine: You're on the internet-the land of extremists.
I noticed this guy (dtgreene, not you) frequently gets uptight about everything. If I didn't know any better about 80% of the users on here, I'd guess he was from tumblr.
Post edited January 02, 2016 by zeogold
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Nice. Another fake thread by a fake account.
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Sachys: Nice. Another fake thread by a fake account.
Hey, at least I gave a legitimate, thought-out response.
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Sachys: Nice. Another fake thread by a fake account.
you fake being straight here sausage lover boy
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dtgreene: One thing is that, if a game is DRM encumbered, pirated versions (which lack the DRM) are more valuable than legitimate versions of the game. Therefore, if we pretend that the pirated version costs the same, it is still better to pirate the game than to buy it. Therefore, DRM might actually increase piracy rather than reduce it.

To put it another way, DRM punishes the legit owner and doesn't affect the pirate.

For DRM free versions, this no longer applies.

Also, the problem with current DRM is that there is a good chance that it will make the game not work 30 years from now.
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zeogold: Again, you haven't answered my last question. If you hate it so much, why not just give away what you don't want or change the slider to donate everything to a charity of your choosing?
I have a reason for not giving away what I don't want: Giving away a DRM copy encourages the person receiving it to use DRM.

As I said, I already set the Humble Tip to 0%, and (when possible) give the money to the EFF instead.
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Sachys: Nice. Another fake thread by a fake account.
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wilheimm: you fake being straight here sausage lover boy
Egad! you mean to tell me he's also not ACTUALLY flinging smelly poo, too?!
Gosh, next you're going to tell me he's not really a space ape.
humble bundle sells just steam keys, right?

so choice is clear - gog
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zeogold: Again, you haven't answered my last question. If you hate it so much, why not just give away what you don't want or change the slider to donate everything to a charity of your choosing?
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dtgreene: I have a reason for not giving away what I don't want: Giving away a DRM copy encourages the person receiving it to use DRM.

As I said, I already set the Humble Tip to 0%, and (when possible) give the money to the EFF instead.
You're THAT paranoid of it? As I already said, pretty sure it's just a necessary evil (I mean, it's nothing new, it's been around since the CD era), but whatever.
In that case, just buy everything, continue giving it all to charity, and just let your Steam keys sit there and rot (although personally, I'd LOVE to have 'em despite your hatred).