have you tried the Sim Settlement? I was wondering about doing a new play-through with stuff like that, but want to do a complete 'pristine' run first. that settlement micro management is getting a tad tedious...

I don't believe I have that one (I know it sounds stupid that I don't know what I installed, but I did a crapton and have a number of them related to the settlements). I'll have a look at my modlist when I get home tonight and let you know, but I don't think I opted for that one. I figured screw the pristine run for myself, since I've played enough Bethesda games to know I want them modded... :P

And it still works? Impressive...

I spent literally weeks to get the perfect combinations of mods working both in Oblivion and Skyrim... FO3 I completed without mods (which actually speaks for this game), FO:NV is still backlogged.

no. a source on how bad it will be and that CC is stopping moding etc.

the Fallout online thingy is old news

Yep, although I'm getting some stutter now and then, which is likely the hi-res texture pack. Which I think I'll disable and see how it goes. But other than that it's working great. I made sure to clean the mods and resolve the load order with LOOT as well though.
Of course, if it's an MMORPG, then it would only stand to reason that they'd stop or restrict modding though.

aye, but they can do like WoW does, they are calling it addons, though - https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons , but it is the same as mods. it tends to mostly graphical, and any gameplay changes are illegal.

edit - basically of Fallout Online used CC, then a form of modding is built into it.

Huh?
I'd never boycott Steam tbh.

Just FYI, so called First World Country High Class Users, Steam implements regional pricing. With it, we can get cheaper games rather than pirating straight away because of high prices you guys are selling with USD like GOG.

So no, never. Steam has helped gaming world than so called cancers DRM free lunatics.

So turns out I'm not using that one: I've got Better Settlers installed along with some mods that expand settlement supplies, place everywhere, and a couple others.

I have a system:

Is it better on PC?
no
Buy it on console

yes
check GOG and steam
Is it on both?
Get the GOG version
Its only on steam cause publisher wont give in
Bite the bullet for steam version

Games I own on steam that I dont mind on steam right now:
Metal gear rising, killing floor, insurgency, resident evil 0 and 1

Those games are plain better on PC/only on PC and I really dont see them coming to GOG
Diversified game collections are pretty safe bets

There is not really a source required but observation to be unsure about this type of games future. First they created the CC, next they want it to be more popular than Nexus, should that happen change future games to be CC only and restrict heavily on what are good mods and what are bad mods (and of course profit). If or if not that all will happen only on SP games, on an MMO or a hybrid is still open; but to believe anything other than the CC being Beths wish for 100% control and monetization on all mods... come on, you have been around here at least as long as I am.

Not that all that would stop me from getting Skyrim & FO4 should they ever get released here; I think that how you are handling it (getting the game but never clicking the CC button) sends an equally strong message.

Are you nuts? Fallout 4 is really annyoing in "pristine" condition.

You need at least the unofficial patches, to make it less buggy. Pristine, my ass.

And get Sim Settlement. It fixes the settler system, transfering imbeciles into settlers. This is one of the MOST annoyning "pristine" design failures of BUGthesda.

.. Oh, and replace at least the dumbed down dialog system, with one, where you actually can see, what your char is about to say. The "pristine" system is only sufficient for retards.

Yeah, I know there will be no sources on this yet, as it still in development and no one knows anything yet. When it comes to observations, it all depends on the disposition on the person making them, and from my point of view it will not happen as it will lead to the cold death of Bethesda. This is very obvious and I give Bethesda the credit of realising this. What I think will happen, is that CC will be modeled in future games on the structure we now see in F4 and Skyrim SE, there is are observations made that predict otherwise at the moment.

Yes, off course Bethesda would like a monopoly and 100% control, but that can be said about every single company out there. gOg would really like a monopoly on PC games... does not mean it will ever happen, nor that it will be constructed towards it. People, (even big companies) tends to think profit first and there will be no profit getting to that point, only grief. Yes, it does mean that Bethesda will find many different way of "encouraging" the use of CC, but I seriously doubt they will ever create a full system lock-in and thereby alienating a major contributing user base, as they are know for the modding freedom their games have. They have a very long tale on PC games partly due to this, and they know it.

Don't forget that one of the rationale for CC is also modding for consoles, where using something like Nexus is more difficult.

aye, and this I forcast will be the way it will work in upcoming Betehsda games as well.

I would have to log into my Steam account to see when I actually bought my last game there. I went GOG only quite some time ago as far as PC games are considered, my only regret being not getting AoE 2 HD and expansions. I still play some Steam games I own, however.

I haven't boycotted Steam, but generally the most I pay for a game there is around $7.50, and mostly stick to $5.00 or less. I have occasionally paid up to $20 for newer games that I really wanted that I believe will not be coming to GOG, like Conan Exiles of Killing Floor 2 Deluxe. I've been holding out for Agents of Mayhem to come to GOG. I don't like paying more than rental rates when games aren't DRM free.