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General discussionHow many of you actually boycott Steam games?(1376 posts)(1376 posts)
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Posted September 24, 2012
Well, it's pretty easy to "boycott" something you didn't want in the first place. ;)

I don't boycott Steam, I just prefer to buy my games elsewhere, where they won't be dependent on a client. And I refuse to give them my RL data and let them store it, when all I want is to buy a game via PayPal. I have a few Steam games though that I traded with other gamers, very cheap and mostly casual games. I would never spend more than $10-15 for any game on Steam though (in fact I think I didn't even spend $10 so far).
Posted September 24, 2012
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TheEnigmaticT: I can play all of my bought games, but I've lived here in Poland for two years now and cannot buy new ones. ?.?
Have you tried getting someone in the US (who you trust) to log in and make the purchase for you?
Posted September 24, 2012
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SimonG: We should just hold a second and realize that the community is giving the head of GOG marketing buying support on a competitors store.

These forums are truly a special place.
I needs me my XCom: Emeny Unknown. :P
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TheEnigmaticT: I can play all of my bought games, but I've lived here in Poland for two years now and cannot buy new ones. ?.?
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Darling_Jimmy: Have you tried getting someone in the US (who you trust) to log in and make the purchase for you?
Yup. That works. Or I just have my wife gift me games from her account.
Post edited September 24, 2012 by TheEnigmaticT
Posted September 24, 2012
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darthspudius: Are you saying every game on steam needs a constant connection? Except the process of downloading them, that's completely false. Unless I have completely misread your post.
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Coelocanth: He's saying his mother doesn't have an internet connection, so he can't install any games at his mother's house that require a client. (I'm assuming he has a desktop at his mother's place and isn't talking about a laptop).
I guess it was just had dodgy wording... confusions and apologies.
Posted September 24, 2012
Fun Fact: pretty much nobody physically touches a Steam game. : D

Yeah, I'm pretty sure someone used that joke already, feels like sad slowpoke...
Posted September 24, 2012
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forbidden5: That pretty much sums up my stance as well.
Having to create a new Steam and email account for every new game tied to this, plus the same procedure again if I have to contact their support, regional restrictions that force me to use a VPN, mandatory updates and cloud syncing (both of which is great if it's optional)...
You don't have to create a new Steam account when you purchase a game via Steam, you just add games to your account, like GOG.

Auto-updating and cloud service are optional, you can disable them.

Regional locks are a pain, I do agree with you. I didn't buy the Ninty 3DS because of that. Speaking about Steam, I don't think it's Valve's fault, ask the publishers. ;)
Posted September 24, 2012
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SimonG: Weird. I was able to use my account in Britain with those "paysafecards" (but that was a year ago). When I want to buy stuff on Steam directly with my accounts or paypal I need to switch my IP back to Germany however.

I know that US service members in Germany can somehow get their account "US locked" (US storefront and payment options) even if they connect from Germany/ROW, so support should be able to help you if it really bothers you. On the other hand, I now nearly buy most of my Steam games on third party stores anyway....

(They probably noticed you are working for the competition and are trolling you. The fact that you were at EA before that certainly doesn't help ;-P. )
Odd, PayPal works fine for me in the UK, but then I have a joint UK address that I can enter while I'm in the UK. For me, it's usually having a German postal address entered while I'm in the UK that causes Steam to kick off.

Your problems may actually be related to your UK ISP or IP address. I was in Bristol last September and PayPal refused to play ball, and then when I drove to Plymouth two days later it was fine (although both used the same ISP, funnily enough).
Posted September 24, 2012
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TheEnigmaticT: I've got a Polish account. It won't let me buy from either my Polish one or my American one.
Is that why you guys created the GOG site? So you could finally purchase games digitally? :)

Oh yeah, and I still feel Steam is a pretty good service for online multiplayer games. Too bad I tend not to buy multiplayer-only games, I pay mostly just for the single-player experience.
Post edited September 24, 2012 by timppu
Posted September 24, 2012
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Pila87: Regional locks are a pain, I do agree with you. I didn't buy the Ninty 3DS because of that. Speaking about Steam, I don't think it's Valve's fault, ask the publishers. ;)
Valve put the gun in the publishers' hand.

You have to ask yourself, when a person puts a gun in a child's hand and the child shoots someone, do you blame the person who gave them the gun or the child? (And yes, I do consider publishers to be behaving like petulant children at times)
Posted September 24, 2012
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lukaszthegreat: no
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TheEnigmaticT: I dunno. I can play all of my bought games, but I've lived here in Poland for two years now and cannot buy new ones. ?.?
How do you manage with the language difference?
Posted September 24, 2012
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jamyskis: Odd, PayPal works fine for me in the UK, but then I have a joint UK address that I can enter while I'm in the UK. For me, it's usually having a German postal address entered while I'm in the UK that causes Steam to kick off.

Your problems may actually be related to your UK ISP or IP address. I was in Bristol last September and PayPal refused to play ball, and then when I drove to Plymouth two days later it was fine (although both used the same ISP, funnily enough).
It could be that is very flaky to start with. I remember being able to buy UK games in the UK with my German CC card in 2010. But one day it stopped working. I always assumed it was a system change. But maybe Steam just sucks at proper region finding. I never really tried again.

Nowadays I don't really bother, as I buy just about every Steamworks game on some third party site that isn't so anal about regions and just activate it.
Posted September 24, 2012
I've just been reminded to run my Steam client, which I had not done in a long time. I also needed to punch in the Steam keys I got from buying Humble Bundle a few months ago. After the client updated, I looked at my "Library"... and see Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3, BioShock 1 and 2, Mass Effect 1 and 2, the entire Grand Theft Auto series, and a whole bunch of games I don't even remember buying on Steam. I was like, WHEN THE HELL DID I BUY ALL THOSE GAMES ON STEAM?!? I have never played or even installed those games on my PC or laptop..


That is the problem with Steam.
Post edited September 24, 2012 by ktchong
Posted September 24, 2012
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jamyskis: Valve put the gun in the publishers' hand.

You have to ask yourself, when a person puts a gun in a child's hand and the child shoots someone, do you blame the person who gave them the gun or the child? (And yes, I do consider publishers to be behaving like petulant children at times)
You can't really blame that on Valve. If Bethesda makes a deal with 1C publishing over exclusive distribution rights, Valve can't do shit. You could argue that Valve could exercise more pressure on the publishers, but that would piss them of immensely for very little gain. Valve overplayed their cards with EA and we saw where that went.
Posted September 24, 2012
I don't mind steam, as I have yet to find a game i own that i cannot play in offline mode. I do wish however, there wasn't a need for clients in general. More importantly to me, it gives me another avenue for gifting. Speaking of DRM, the 1 that annoys me the most is Blizzard, always online for Diablo 3. I will continue to use steam, for games that are not available here. I do wish they would look at GOG as an example though for extras - sometimes I don't even get a manual !!
Posted September 24, 2012
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ktchong: <snip>
Sounds like the opposite of account theft.

Someone hacked into your account and generously bought you all those games. Or something.
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