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i have a steam account but i haven't logged into it for about 3 years. i've spent maybe $25 on it. i don't plan on ever purchasing from them again. these days, if i can't find a game online without DRM on it, i'll just pirate it.
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Sachys:
F U C K I N G
NECROMUNGERS!
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GR00T: LOL -Y U no like the necromantic arts?
just breeds more arseholes mate! :(
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ashley2ashes: these days, if i can't find a game online without DRM on it, i'll just pirate it.
While I understand why you do this, I really wish everyone would reconsider and just not bother. If people would just not buy the game nor pirate it, and just let it die (or wait until it's on a deep discount for 5 bucks or less), maybe publishers would get the hint that DRM isn't acceptable (of course, this also requires that people go to the game's forums or contact the devs/publishers and let the devs/publishers know why they didn't buy or pirate the game).

Pirating the game just gives publishers more incentive and another excuse to pile on more draconian DRM.
I guess what bugs me about Steam is the way they charge for what feels essentially like a rental service.

If they openly operated more as a bulk renter and didn't install intrusive software on my machine at a system level to enforce DRM, I'd remotely consider it.

I'll pay ~9$ a month for Netflix to watch their huge collection of movies directly in my Chrome browser without having to install a separate client. That seems reasonable to me.

Given that I have a huge backlog of games, I can't say I'd do the same for the gaming, but if I didn't have that backlog and they'd charge say, 10$-15$ a month to play a huge collection of games directly in my browser, maybe I'd consider it.

Otherwise, if you insist on selling it to me in a significant single lump transaction per game, then sell me my own copy of the software that I can actually backup, re-install at will and play anytime/anywhere and don't make it behave like malware.
Post edited August 29, 2015 by Magnitus
Even though this thread is old I'll add my input since someone resurrected it. Back November 16, 2004 I was one the very first to purchase my physical copy of Half-Life 2. I was extremely excited.

Well when I went home to install it didn't know it required Steam. It was downloading a patch already and it took almost an hour. My memory was vague at the time but I remembered enough to not ever buy another Steam product. I didn't get a chance to play the game because their server was overloaded.

Valve was my most favorite company at the time only to become the most hated and I still hate them to this day. They ruined gaming for me and many others like me. Since then I didn't care how awesome a game was if it had Steam on it it was no buy for me. If you like Steam good for you but others like me don't care for it and don't want to deal with it.

GoG is the only one that SAVED PC gaming for people like me. Most others went to console because of Steam. Steam became a monster and a huge monopoly on digital distribution. Not only that their terms of service screws over the customers if they were to be hit by a hurricane or some disaster. Only a matter of time when disaster strikes and all the customers lose all their games and get a response from them "Oh you only rent our games under the Terms of Services. Too bad we don't have a record of all the games you purchased". Not good at all for competition so I'm thankful GoG came around and hope more developers get it through their thick skulls DRM are for sissies.

With GoG games I enjoy installing it on whatever machine I want and not ever having to worry about internet connection and bloatware running in the background.

If you're a Steam lover good for you. No need to defend it. People like me know what they stand for and want nothing to do with them.
Post edited August 29, 2015 by Bladesteel
If you have a huge interest in games you really can't boycott Steam. It has so many games that isn't here on GOG. I buy games here first or on the humble store. Steam has one HUGE advantage over GOG however and that is the community market. I've gotten funds for a lot of my game purchases thanks to cards and in game items from CS:GO. Must have gotten at least 100€ from it during the last few years.
Post edited August 29, 2015 by Teppic
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Teppic: If you have a huge interest in games you really can't boycott Steam. It has so many games that isn't here on GOG. I buy games here first or on the humble store. Steam has one HUGE advantage over GOG however and that is the community market. I've gotten funds for a lot of my game purchases thanks to cards and in game items from CS:GO. Must have gotten at least 100€ from it during the last few years.
Well my backlog in GoG alone will never be finish in my lifetime. So don't really need new steam games unless I want to support the devs. But in that case I just go to the dev's website and buy directly from them. Since I found GoG I hardly buy new games from steam anymore.

I still use steam for games I already bought and cheap bundles keys that I won't be in for a huge loss if steam lock my games again. Then again I refrain from buying from steam as much as possible. The ratio of steam purchase vs GoG purchase is 1 to 100 or 200 ever since steam drive me to gog.
Post edited August 29, 2015 by Gnostic
You can count me in on the complete steam boycott. I won't go anywhere near the place, not even for free games.

I won't be pushed around by it, be told when to update my games, given zero information on how big games are to download and massive 10gb patches on release day.

Strange thing is I'd be happy to authenticate my bought games online without any of that bullshit. It isn't the DRM that pisses me off.

Troubling thing is if I had an unlimited internet connection I'd probably be putting up with that crap like everyone else.
Post edited August 29, 2015 by bad_fur_day1
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Bladesteel: Even though this thread is old I'll add my input since someone resurrected it. Back November 16, 2004 I was one the very first to purchase my physical copy of Half-Life 2. I was extremely excited.

Well when I went home to install it didn't know it required Steam. It was downloading a patch already and it took almost an hour. My memory was vague at the time but I remembered enough to not ever buy another Steam product. I didn't get a chance to play the game because their server was overloaded.

Valve was my most favorite company at the time only to become the most hated and I still hate them to this day. They ruined gaming for me and many others like me. Since then I didn't care how awesome a game was if it had Steam on it it was no buy for me. If you like Steam good for you but others like me don't care for it and don't want to deal with it.

GoG is the only one that SAVED PC gaming for people like me. Most others went to console because of Steam. Steam became a monster and a huge monopoly on digital distribution. Not only that their terms of service screws over the customers if they were to be hit by a hurricane or some disaster. Only a matter of time when disaster strikes and all the customers lose all their games and get a response from them "Oh you only rent our games under the Terms of Services. Too bad we don't have a record of all the games you purchased". Not good at all for competition so I'm thankful GoG came around and hope more developers get it through their thick skulls DRM are for sissies.

With GoG games I enjoy installing it on whatever machine I want and not ever having to worry about internet connection and bloatware running in the background.

If you're a Steam lover good for you. No need to defend it. People like me know what they stand for and want nothing to do with them.
Don't think you should have given up on steam that quickly (It was early days.). Not saying you wouldn't have done later, had you stuck with it. Steam has improved since then server wise. But fair enough, that is your opinion. And also, steam isn't a monopoly because of it was other gaming services such as GOG, Origin and Uplay wouldn't exist.
Post edited August 29, 2015 by sherringon456
I can't help myself sometimes, Dirt Rally early access is so good and I can't play it any other way.

Also some games on steam are DRM free so something like Brothers: a Tale of Two Sons or Antichamber is worth buying for the sole reason I can move the entire installed folders elsewhere on my HDD and launch the game without running steam.
I love gaming, so I will not boycott anything just to make myself look like a gaming rebel to impress people on message boards.

God you people are pretentious.
Post edited August 29, 2015 by legopig
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legopig: I love gaming, so I will not boycott anything just to make myself look like a gaming rebel to impress people on message boards.

God you people are pretentious.
Same with me. People have a choice if they want to boycott steam and it is my opinion that people who do are making the wrong one.
I have a steam account with only 1 game paid full price for... thats Saints Row IV

everything else was acquired via bundles and stupid cheap holiday sales. With the advent of STEAM supporting DRMfree titles in a decent amount and the ability to play without steam loaded i see it as a fair trade.. eventually everything goes DRMfree in some form.
Steam won't even run on my system, so as far as I am concerned, they are doing everything they can to make it hard for me to play their games. Why should I not boycott them? And I do not feel like I'm missing out, I already have more games than I can play in my life. The developers/publishers who only release on Steam are the ones who have something lose here. I only wish they would lose more, because realistically speaking, my wallet is nothing, and my vote doesn't count.
Post edited August 29, 2015 by clarry
I boycotted steam for a very long time then I tried it and was like: "Meh." I only have very few games on steam: Metro 2033, Dawn of War 2 and it add-ons, Space Marine, Fallout New Vegas and that's it. Since I bought a new computer in January this year I haven't even installed steam.