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General discussionHow many of you actually boycott Steam games?(1376 posts)(1376 posts)
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Posted March 03, 2021
I was almost exclusively shopping games from GOG for years, until the Devotion thing. Don't plan on spending another cent here until they get their priorities straight.
Posted March 03, 2021
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This is hard to come by, the statement the op makes, drm does not prevent piracy is, as it seems very black and white, i mean for one, it is absolutely not easy to brake the different drm safety measures..... remember for example how long it took before total war warhammer was cracked, not to mention a few others such as the encryption used by one particular 4x/strategy developer that is deemed uncrackable by many ( also makes you wonder why we don't see that particular branch of safety measures more often. On the other other hand, if even mega companies such as CDPR can be hacked by those criminals how stupid is the statement the OP makes for example? Just give everyone free access to everything and be done with it? that is like providing free drugs, money and 350 days of free time to the mob... the world would go to hell within a year ... it is already almost neigh impossible to counter criminals in a free democracy ...... In the small city i live in there are at least 20 cases of violent behavior, 40 car robberies , 60 house robberies, numerous cases of small theft and 4 rape cases like every day .. and U think that leaving the safety measures out will improve life ??? Nah ... that thought alone sounds so ridiculous to me .....

but yea, the question...

i don't boycott since some of my favorite games are only found on steam
Posted March 03, 2021
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Zimerius: This is hard to come by, the statement the op makes, drm does not prevent piracy is, as it seems very black and white, i mean for one, it is absolutely not easy to brake the different drm safety measures..... remember for example how long it took before total war warhammer was cracked, not to mention a few others such as the encryption used by one particular 4x/strategy developer that is deemed uncrackable by many ( also makes you wonder why we don't see that particular branch of safety measures more often. On the other other hand, if even mega companies such as CDPR can be hacked by those criminals how stupid is the statement the OP makes for example? Just give everyone free access to everything and be done with it? that is like providing free drugs, money and 350 days of free time to the mob... the world would go to hell within a year ... it is already almost neigh impossible to counter criminals in a free democracy ...... In the small city i live in there are at least 20 cases of violent behavior, 40 car robberies , 60 house robberies, numerous cases of small theft and 4 rape cases like every day .. and U think that leaving the safety measures out will improve life ??? Nah ... that thought alone sounds so ridiculous to me .....

but yea, the question...

i don't boycott since some of my favorite games are only found on steam
how small is that town?

dunno much about drm-s and crack , just read it some drm slows down game dramatically like 10%+ and take 30+seconds to load , that is horrible
Posted March 03, 2021
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Titanium: Well, let's see...

Oh shit, that many?

I can safely say that I "own" about twice as much games on steam as on GOG, and I own quite a bit of them on GOG.

I still value the games bought here much more than on steam.
This ratio still holds, surprisingly.

Thus the Titanium constant of variation.
Posted March 03, 2021
I haven't use my Steam account in years, but I don't boycot them, is more like I complete ignore their existence.
Posted March 03, 2021
I don’t care about the store as long as no DRM is involved.
So of course I never bought and will never buy anything from Steam. I would not even accept free games from Valve’s store.
Posted March 03, 2021
I generally try to stay away from Steam and other DRM storefronts. I tend to purchase on Steam only when the price is very low and / or the game is only available on Steam. I think I've purchased 2 games on Steam in the last 2 months averaging .79 cents.

GOG is always my first priority for PC games.
Posted March 03, 2021
Haven't bought a single game outside of GOG in the years 2009-2020.
Haven't bought a single game anywhere in 2021.
Posted March 04, 2021
Never did and never will. More than enough games on gog to entertain me for many years anyways.
Posted March 04, 2021
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vv221: I don’t care about the store as long as no DRM is involved.
So of course I never bought and will never buy anything from Steam. I would not even accept free games from Valve’s store.
Referring to your "of course". Just FYI, there are thousands of DRM-free games on Steam (https://steam.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games); and you don't need the Steam client to download, install, backup or play these games. Not that I'm trying to convince you to buy there (I don't), just FYI.
Post edited March 04, 2021 by mrkgnao
Posted March 04, 2021
I don't boycott Steam games.
I just put them on the bottom of my play list, in case I ever run out of DRM free games and user-made content.
Posted March 04, 2021
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MysterD: Games are rentals anyways these days w/ their DRM schemes and I normally do not replay them anyways
You see, this is where I differ. I replay games a lot, and may even spend more time replaying games than playing games for the first time.

Hence, I like my game purchases to last, and DRM gets in the way of that.

There's also the fact that I consider game preservation to be important, to the point where I wish GOG would offer offline installers for old versions of games.
Posted March 04, 2021
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MysterD: Games are rentals anyways these days w/ their DRM schemes and I normally do not replay them anyways
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dtgreene: You see, this is where I differ. I replay games a lot, and may even spend more time replaying games than playing games for the first time.

Hence, I like my game purchases to last, and DRM gets in the way of that.

There's also the fact that I consider game preservation to be important, to the point where I wish GOG would offer offline installers for old versions of games.
That would be amazing...
Some games have old mods that only works with older versions, that unfortunately, aren't with us anymore.
Posted March 04, 2021
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mrkgnao: there are thousands of DRM-free games on Steam (https://steam.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games); and you don't need the Steam client to download, install, backup or play these games.
To make my stance more clear: the Steam client is the only supported way to download/install games from Steam. We have no guarantee third-party tools like DepotDownloader are not going to stop working tomorrow, because Valve does not support downloading the games they sell in any other way than through the Steam client (or SteamCMD, but this is roughly the same thing).

This is because of this restriction that I do not think "Steam-provided DRM-free games" makes sense ;)
Posted March 04, 2021
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mrkgnao: there are thousands of DRM-free games on Steam (https://steam.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games); and you don't need the Steam client to download, install, backup or play these games.
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vv221: To make my stance more clear: the Steam client is the only supported way to download/install games from Steam. We have no guarantee third-party tools like DepotDownloader are not going to stop working tomorrow, because Valve does not support downloading the games they sell in any other way than through the Steam client (or SteamCMD, but this is roughly the same thing).

This is because of this restriction that I do not think "Steam-provided DRM-free games" makes sense ;)
That's an interesting observation. We don't have any guarantee that GOG's offline installers will not disappear tomorrow, nor that the APIs used by lgogdownloader or gogrepoc will not be blocked tomorrow.
Post edited March 04, 2021 by mrkgnao
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