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Law and justice it is now in Poland after the latest parliamentary election. The funny thing is that the official leader of PiS, Beata Szydło, is not identical with the mastermind behind it, Jarosław Kaczyński, and you think that his is easy enough for the voter to look through, but it seems not so. Or what do you think?

Is law and justice in Poland the end of liberal attitudes? Will Poland follow the way of Hungary? Will division of powers be ended, media be suppressed? Or is it maybe the best that could happen? Will Polands economy grow at minor expenses here and there?

What will happen to the country? How will it change in the next years?

And finally the most important of all: Is Cyberpunk 2077 in danger? Can it still be finished under the circumstances?
Post edited October 26, 2015 by Trilarion
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Trilarion: Law and justice it is now in Poland after the latest parliamentary election. The funny thing is that the official leader of PiS, Beata Szydło, is not identical with the mastermind behind it, Jarosław Kaczyński, and you think that his is easy enough for the voter to look through, but it seems not so. Or what do you think?

Is law and justice in Poland the end of liberal attitudes? Will Poland follow the way of Hungary? Will division of powers be ended, media be suppressed? Or is it maybe the best that could happen? Will Polands economy grow at minor expenses here and there?

What will happen to the country? How will it change in the next years?

And finally the most important of all: Is Cyberpunk 2077 in danger? Can it still be finished under the circumstances?
We've survived communism, two world wars, and three partitions, I think we'll be fine :P
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Trilarion: Law and justice it is now in Poland after the latest parliamentary election. The funny thing is that the official leader of PiS, Beata Szydło, is not identical with the mastermind behind it, Jarosław Kaczyński, and you think that his is easy enough for the voter to look through, but it seems not so. Or what do you think?

Is law and justice in Poland the end of liberal attitudes? Will Poland follow the way of Hungary? Will division of powers be ended, media be suppressed? Or is it maybe the best that could happen? Will Polands economy grow at minor expenses here and there?

What will happen to the country? How will it change in the next years?

And finally the most important of all: Is Cyberpunk 2077 in danger? Can it still be finished under the circumstances?
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JudasIscariot: We've survived communism, two world wars, and three partitions, I think we'll be fine :P
Three Partitions?
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JudasIscariot: We've survived communism, two world wars, and three partitions, I think we'll be fine :P
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Elmofongo: Three Partitions?
It's a wikipedia article but it should be a decent starting point if you're interested in learning more:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partitions_of_Poland
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Trilarion: Law and justice it is now in Poland after the latest parliamentary election. The funny thing is that the official leader of PiS, Beata Szydło, is not identical with the mastermind behind it, Jarosław Kaczyński, and you think that his is easy enough for the voter to look through, but it seems not so. Or what do you think?
Actually, she's not the leader of the party, officialy or otherwise. She's their candidate for the Prime Minister's office, but the leadership of the party remains, as always, with Kaczyński. Not that what you're saying about it being, basically, a rouse is untrue, she is just a figurehead.
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Trilarion: Is law and justice in Poland the end of liberal attitudes? Will Poland follow the way of Hungary? Will division of powers be ended, media be suppressed?
Things are definately going to get worse in the "liberty and free speech" department, but fortunately despite the massive victory they are still far from having the majority required to change the constitution, so any lasting damage to the democracy is unlikely (or so at least I tell myself to keep my spirits up). There are nasty times ahead to be sure, and it might have serious repercussions for the rest of the EU (the most pro-EU country in the region is going to do a 180), but we will survive. Hopefully this gouvernment won't even survive it's full term (the last time they won they barely lasted two years).
When it comes to the delicate political situation in Poland, it is always of utmost importance not to forget that... that...

Damn, now I don't remember what I was going to say. Oh well.
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timppu: When it comes to the delicate political situation in Poland, it is always of utmost importance not to forget that... that...

Damn, now I don't remember what I was going to say. Oh well.
I'm pretty sure it was "pierogi".
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Elmofongo: Three Partitions?
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JudasIscariot: It's a wikipedia article but it should be a decent starting point if you're interested in learning more:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partitions_of_Poland
You've been on the receiving end in history basically.
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Elmofongo: You've been on the receiving end in history basically.
Let's just say there's a reason why the most famous book about the history of Poland is titled "God's Playground" :D
Based upon limited knowledge of the "Law and Justice" Party of Poland and a few quick researches, it would have been way worse and the new leadership still sounds better than what my country (USA) currently has.
Jaroslaw Kaczynski: "The affirmation of homosexuality will lead to the downfall of civilization"

Indeed. Gentle folks with such reasonable ideals are surely the ones we should give the power to start a war.
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Trilarion: And finally the most important of all: Is Cyberpunk 2077 in danger? Can it still be finished under the circumstances?
If it doesn't, at least now they have a good excuse.
If all else fails, Poland can be lifted into the air on a giant Pirogi and usher in a new era of socialist utopia, free of money.
I knew the helicopter ejection seat would prove to be their downfall.
Will this new Poland at least enforce the laws it claims to stand behind or will it be like every hypocritical government and only cherry pick them? :/