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Posted October 27, 2015
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Emachine9643: From the people that I interact with IRL we view Russia as communist in disguise who is trying to regain their former glory and from the very brief view of the arrticle I thought Poland was now the same. What is the european view on Russia? Or L&J?
if the country is part of NATO or supports NATO,it's NOT gonna kiss russia's butt. period. you wanna look for friends of russia (for whatever insane paranoid reason), look in the middle east. or maybe china.

and poland ball can into former glory? which century did you get your news from?
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Posted October 27, 2015
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Trilarion: And finally the most important of all: Is Cyberpunk 2077 in danger? Can it still be finished under the circumstances?
If not, Obama will send troops so they can. Because... he liked The Witcher 2.
Posted October 27, 2015
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dick1982:
I was talking about Russia when I said glory.

Edit- Wonder if that's why Putin is in Syria?....
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Trilarion: And finally the most important of all: Is Cyberpunk 2077 in danger? Can it still be finished under the circumstances?
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gamefood: If not, Obama will send troops so they can. Because... he liked The Witcher 2.
according to the guys who checks his gifts he never touched the witcher games that poland gave him.
Posted October 27, 2015
Found the article I skimmed!

h ttp : / / news . yahoo . co m/poland-moves -kaczynski- makes-dramatic- come back- 0833 44557 . h tml
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Makes Poland look like it's in the EU for the money....
Posted October 27, 2015
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Emachine9643: Found the article I skimmed!

h ttp : / / news . yahoo . co m/poland-moves -kaczynski- makes-dramatic- come back- 0833 44557 . h tml
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Makes Poland look like it's in the EU for the money....
it's no secret that EU has benefited poorer EU members, or at least their politicians and failed bankers.
EDITED: they're NOT gonna suddenly give up on the easy credit and join neo-USSR. damn typos.
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Posted October 27, 2015
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dick1982:
All I'm saying from my standpoint is that what it looks like, maybe not now but later and the way american news articles are written it looks that way. I don't know a thing about europe and am just curious on your continents viewpoints....

Edit- Extreme example of american press is Fox News and MSNBC News.... One is a warmonger and the other is an idiot playing hackey sack at college campus.

Edit edit- Between those two extremes is the local news which doesn't care about the global situations and more focused on kittens stuck on trees and at the very center is CNN which doesn't know which celeb to focus on or which story to focus on for the next 2 weeks. Personally I like the BBC and Aljazeera, fuck RL or whatever its called that's backed by Russia. Online wise..... Well that's a clusterfuck that I won't go into.
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Posted October 27, 2015
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dick1982: according to the guys who checks his gifts he never touched the witcher games that poland gave him.
First: That's what they say... You know the girls in the game(s) right? Obi humped them all xD
Second: It was only the second Witcher, so not "games".
And third: to beat a bloody gobshite one has to be a bigger gobshite > look at "Second".... ;P
Posted October 27, 2015
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Trilarion: Law and justice it is now in Poland after the latest parliamentary election. The funny thing is that the official leader of PiS, Beata Szydło, is not identical with the mastermind behind it, Jarosław Kaczyński, and you think that his is easy enough for the voter to look through, but it seems not so. Or what do you think?

Is law and justice in Poland the end of liberal attitudes? Will Poland follow the way of Hungary? Will division of powers be ended, media be suppressed? Or is it maybe the best that could happen? Will Polands economy grow at minor expenses here and there?

What will happen to the country? How will it change in the next years?

And finally the most important of all: Is Cyberpunk 2077 in danger? Can it still be finished under the circumstances?
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JudasIscariot: We've survived communism, two world wars, and three partitions, I think we'll be fine :P
my favorite sardine brand is packed there now (they do look a bit grottier than when they came from Norway though...) cant be all bad ;)
Posted October 27, 2015
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Emachine9643: Personally I like the BBC and Aljazeera, fuck RL or whatever its called that's backed by Russia. Online wise..... Well that's a clusterfuck that I won't go into.
You mean Russia Today? Well at least it's not that bad, I get to see Russian TV aswell. F U C K ME is all I can say after watching Vremja some evenings when drunk. They live in a parallel dimension, like those *fag*ot* Apple users.
Posted October 27, 2015
Why the fuck is every country marching right right right???? FFS.

And the PM of ole' Canadia seems like he ain't too concerned about freedom of speech either.
Posted October 27, 2015
There have been a lot of comparisons between the surviving Kaczyński and Viktor Orbán in Hungary, and indeed both politicians are really the sorts of Hitler-esque nutjobs that you really don't want in power. That being said, both Kaczyński brothers have been in power and they didn't have the kinds of dictatorial nudgings that Orbán has invoked (Hungary's pretty much in a dire state of affairs right now).

Kaczyński certainly won't be good for Poland after so many years of progress, but as Judas says, the country's been through a lot worse in modern history. At least Kaczyński has a healthy respect for democracy. I'd be more worried about UKIP in the UK (and its supporting activist groups like Britain First and the EDL), the Front National in France and Pegida/AfD in Germany - all of them have clear neofascist tendencies. Kaczyński isn't fascist - he's just a neoconservative nutjob.

(By the way, when I say "neofascist", I don't mean that in the insult sense that people use to denigrate any political position to the right of them, but actually neofascism as a political ideology - a mild development as it were of the kind of nationalist-socialist ideology espoused in the Third Reich in terms of economics and social cohesion, disregarding the atrocities of the Third Reich for a moment).
Posted October 27, 2015
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jamyskis: There have been a lot of comparisons between the surviving Kaczyński and Viktor Orbán in Hungary, and indeed both politicians are really the sorts of Hitler-esque nutjobs that you really don't want in power. That being said, both Kaczyński brothers have been in power and they didn't have the kinds of dictatorial nudgings that Orbán has invoked (Hungary's pretty much in a dire state of affairs right now).

Kaczyński certainly won't be good for Poland after so many years of progress, but as Judas says, the country's been through a lot worse in modern history. At least Kaczyński has a healthy respect for democracy. I'd be more worried about UKIP in the UK (and its supporting activist groups like Britain First and the EDL), the Front National in France and Pegida/AfD in Germany - all of them have clear neofascist tendencies. Kaczyński isn't fascist - he's just a neoconservative nutjob.

(By the way, when I say "neofascist", I don't mean that in the insult sense that people use to denigrate any political position to the right of them, but actually neofascism as a political ideology - a mild development as it were of the kind of nationalist-socialist ideology espoused in the Third Reich in terms of economics and social cohesion, disregarding the atrocities of the Third Reich for a moment).
Man I prefer Fidesz over Jobbik. Hungarians are pretty pissed with the left (or were).
Posted October 27, 2015
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JudasIscariot: We've survived communism
You talk as if it was a bad thing :)
Posted October 27, 2015
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JudasIscariot: We've survived communism
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Crosmando: You talk as if it was a bad thing :)
For us it was. Nothing like having secret police or major food shortages or having to stand in line for 3 or more hours on a Saturday for a loaf of bread.
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