Posted October 29, 2015
monkeydelarge: This is basically a straw man argument. You are trying to attack socialism by attacking all the evil shit the Soviet Union and China did, which have nothing to do with socialism. ...
They called themselves socialistic. If they aren't who was ever? Then the big difference between capitalism and socialism would be that the first existed for real. But basically I don't really believe in socialism or capitalism.
I rather try to think in categories like:
- centrally planned economy vs. market economy
- democracy vs. tyranny
- welfare vs. inequal
- conservative vs. liberal
- corrupt vs. transparent and lawful
- majority voting (favors two parties) vs. proportional voting (favors many parties)
- ...
For example China would be an inequal, conservative tyranny with a corruption problem and an interesting mixture of central planning and market economy. Denmark would be a conservative, lawful, welfare democracy. Italy might be a corrupt, inequal, multi-party democracy with a slight tendency to be conservative. ...
This way one is not stuck all the time to decide between capitalism and socialism when for example China kind of proves that you can even combine both in one country (at least officially). China - the capitalistic, socialistic market economy people's republic. Sounds crazy but neverteless exists.