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I don't think they monkey around with the game code for the various old games, do they? If not, what is it they do to make the games run on newer machines?
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Reign_Dance: I don't think they monkey around with the game code for the various old games, do they? If not, what is it they do to make the games run on newer machines?
Often it's an emulator like DOSBox, ScummVM, or nGlide. Other smarter people can give more detailed explanations about the process and non-emulator compatibility.
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Post edited December 17, 2016 by tinyE
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tinyE: And all at once I was struck with the idea of trying to play FlatOut in reverse.

Actually, in the Demo Derby you kind of have to.
TinyE what the fuck are you doing? will you not shitpost threads new people make?
its not helping you or anyone.
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Post edited December 17, 2016 by tinyE
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Lord_Kane: TinyE what the fuck are you doing? will you not shitpost threads new people make?
its not helping you or anyone.
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tinyE: Why not, it works for the other trolls. They harass the forum and GOG helps them. I spend four years trying to help the forum and get the big blow off.
How are they helped? they are still known as trolls, but becoming them is doing nothing for you, or gog or anything, I seriously suggest just leaving the forum at this stage and going to a forum that isnt in the state as this one.

Don't do this man, I know it may not matter, but it affects how I view you.
They indeed use emulators. For some games they even use Wine (e.g. Nox).
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Reign_Dance: I don't think they monkey around with the game code for the various old games, do they? If not, what is it they do to make the games run on newer machines?
A few things I have seen so far:

- Use emulators
- Use replacements, wrappers or other transformation layers (developed by third parties) for old libraries and APIs
- Use unofficial game patches & hacks (e.g., an overhaul of the game engine) when they can agree with their authors
- Set appropriate Windows compatibility options
- Use illegal cracked exes released by the "scene" groups (yes, unfortunately...)
Post edited December 16, 2016 by onarliog
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tinyE: Why not,
When they go low... :|
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onarliog: - Use illegal cracked exes released by the "scene" groups (yes, unfortunately...)
Myself, I got god ol' Sims 1 to run, using a NOCD patch. I had no clue that I should feel bad about it! :-p
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onarliog: - Use illegal cracked exes released by the "scene" groups (yes, unfortunately...)
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KasperHviid: Myself, I got god ol' Sims 1 to run, using a NOCD patch. I had no clue that I should feel bad about it! :-p
I use them all the time myself too! No probs there :) It just feels wrong to pay GOG and get this in return.

Also, legal or not, the crackers put effort in this and get nothing, no compensation, no credit. Their work is being stolen too! EDIT: To clarify, under US copyright law, the cracker team is allowed to sue GOG in this case. Of course, they can't/won't do it since they can't reveal themselves. So they are also being exploited in a way.
Post edited December 16, 2016 by onarliog
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onarliog: Also, legal or not, the crackers put effort in this and get nothing, no compensation, no credit.Their work is being stolen too!
considering that these crackers (usually) also released the cracked game into the piracy distribution channels, I dare say they lost the moral high ground to complain about stolen work. ;)
Post edited December 17, 2016 by immi101
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KasperHviid: Myself, I got god ol' Sims 1 to run, using a NOCD patch. I had no clue that I should feel bad about it! :-p
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onarliog: I use them all the time myself too! No probs there :) It just feels wrong to pay GOG and get this in return.

Also, legal or not, the crackers put effort in this and get nothing, no compensation, no credit. Their work is being stolen too! EDIT: To clarify, under US copyright law, the cracker team is allowed to sue GOG in this case. Of course, they can't/won't do it since they can't reveal themselves. So they are also being exploited in a way.
I think GOG have removed patches they at first included due to the group/person complaining that it was being used in the release. There was a thread or two about it a year or two ago, and I don't think it was a no-CD patch, but some other fix, perhaps a resolution patch.
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onarliog: Also, legal or not, the crackers put effort in this and get nothing, no compensation, no credit.Their work is being stolen too!
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immi101: considering that these crackers (usually) also released the cracked game into the piracy distribution channels, I dare say they lost the moral high ground to complain about stolen work. ;)
Yeah, it is difficult to take sides in this. Still, two wrongs don't make a right is what I think.
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onarliog: - Use illegal cracked exes released by the "scene" groups (yes, unfortunately...)
Some of the key people behind GOG used to be in those scenes, so it's not surprising.

Reminds me how a few years ago, Rockstar used cracked exe files for their games on Steam until someone complained.