Posted July 01, 2016
GreywolfLord: I'm relatively new here, and I'm pretty sure DRM is what killed PC gaming sales in retail. I know for me it basically killed PC gaming (used to be a HUGE PC gamer back in the day...ironic that many of those games I played then I can find here now).
Steam is just an extension of DRM, and there's no way I was going to support DRM. I tried Steam in the early days, and it was an unnecessary addition that basically to me amounted to something similar to a Trojan on your machine. The exception, you put it there with all your information, but while you gave them all that information, you really didn't get anything in return. It wasn't really necessary to run any game I wanted, it was just there as a gate holder...and that basically is DRM.
Instead, I moved to being a console player where I could get game discs that I could play on a console whether it was connected to the internet or not, that I could play on one PS3/Xbox and then play on another PS3/Xbox without a name/password or any other protective measure, and thus forth. I know a bucket load of former PC gamers that also made that transition.
I wonder if some of the console popularity these days are from former PC gamers.
I came across GoG recently when they had their summer sales. I didn't come for the sales at all, instead I came because I had a LOT of difficulty getting the X-wing series of games running on machines past Win 7 and heard that GoG had working copies of these games.
It was just my luck they had the sales of that game as well. I don't know if I'm back to PC gaming or not yet, but I know I've gotten over a hundred games in less than a month...not all of them old games either (picked up Victor Vran, Pillars of Eternity, Grim Dawn, and all the Shadow Run games).
As for AAA titles, they probably sell more on consoles than anything that Steam can dream of. Why? Because you don't have as restrictive DRM on consoles. You don't have to get this stupid authorization over the internet to install or play your games (and when MS thought they would do that with the Xbone...well...they are still paying for that mistake of an announcement, and if you notice, they backed off of doing that due to the outcry...and simply mentioning it still bit them in the rear).
So, if there really is an AAA title out there, I'm not getting it on Steam. If I have to have it now, and it's not on GoG, I'll get it on a console. However, I think GOG has gotten me hard, and I have a large backlog of games to play until the next games I'm looking forward to come out. Luckily, it looks like they both will come out on GoG (No Man's Sky and Treachery).
Yep. Was a collector for decades of pc games, steam killed that off. Discs with nothing but the client on t, key sales etc. It was the end of the good days. Now digital products are worthless, just a means to tie you to the net for mass marketnf and data mining. I also went to the ps3/xbox for games drm'd. Unfortunately its not getting any better, worse in fact. Every company now wants their own client. Greedy corporate gollums to a one. Still, I have a lifetime of games to get through so fuck em.Steam is just an extension of DRM, and there's no way I was going to support DRM. I tried Steam in the early days, and it was an unnecessary addition that basically to me amounted to something similar to a Trojan on your machine. The exception, you put it there with all your information, but while you gave them all that information, you really didn't get anything in return. It wasn't really necessary to run any game I wanted, it was just there as a gate holder...and that basically is DRM.
Instead, I moved to being a console player where I could get game discs that I could play on a console whether it was connected to the internet or not, that I could play on one PS3/Xbox and then play on another PS3/Xbox without a name/password or any other protective measure, and thus forth. I know a bucket load of former PC gamers that also made that transition.
I wonder if some of the console popularity these days are from former PC gamers.
I came across GoG recently when they had their summer sales. I didn't come for the sales at all, instead I came because I had a LOT of difficulty getting the X-wing series of games running on machines past Win 7 and heard that GoG had working copies of these games.
It was just my luck they had the sales of that game as well. I don't know if I'm back to PC gaming or not yet, but I know I've gotten over a hundred games in less than a month...not all of them old games either (picked up Victor Vran, Pillars of Eternity, Grim Dawn, and all the Shadow Run games).
As for AAA titles, they probably sell more on consoles than anything that Steam can dream of. Why? Because you don't have as restrictive DRM on consoles. You don't have to get this stupid authorization over the internet to install or play your games (and when MS thought they would do that with the Xbone...well...they are still paying for that mistake of an announcement, and if you notice, they backed off of doing that due to the outcry...and simply mentioning it still bit them in the rear).
So, if there really is an AAA title out there, I'm not getting it on Steam. If I have to have it now, and it's not on GoG, I'll get it on a console. However, I think GOG has gotten me hard, and I have a large backlog of games to play until the next games I'm looking forward to come out. Luckily, it looks like they both will come out on GoG (No Man's Sky and Treachery).