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Talk about a completely nonsense game crossover. Most crossovers tend to be pretty silly and dumb already, but this is a whole other level of weird. So I get HoMM 3 character voice-overs for my ships... and that's it? Suuuuuure. Thanks, Ubisoft. You've clearly lost the thread there since you can't figure out what to do with the franchise itself.
So... after watching the trailer I'm utterly confused. Are these only some announcer voice packs? Or is there some Heores themed campaign?

Also where do al these lines come from? Are they specifficaly recorded for World of warships? Or is there hope that I might have missed out on a game in the heroes/Enroth universe.
Post edited October 13, 2023 by MadalinStroe
Is it really complete nonsense? If you think about it HoMM 3 is even in this day and age an immensely popular TBS, probably the most popular game ever of the genre. And profiting off of popular franchises (in some form, even if it is with silly crossovers like these) is hardly a first in the industry.

To be clear, I'm not saying it's not nonsense to us onlookers, but to some marketing brains it clearly made a bit of sense.
Ubisoft is still obviously perfectly capable of handling a franchise such as this. The respect and humility alone. Now I can suff Catherine-ship full of Sandro-ship's 18 inch torpedoes. Or for anyone looking for the reenactment of Beauty and the Beast, there is always Gunnar-ship's 24-inchers.

Perfection.
Post edited October 13, 2023 by idbeholdME
The fans criticized the inclusion of the Forge town for the Armageddon's Blade expansion, but years later Ubisoft decided to make the best of it.
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Cadaver747: The fans criticized the inclusion of the Forge town for the Armageddon's Blade expansion
I wouldn't call anyone sending death threats over a game a fan of anything. Mental is the only thing that comes to mind. Let alone people who call themselves "fans" but have no idea that the series had sci-fi elements in it long before that.

But they got what they deserved. A rushed town with 4 recycled units and one of the most imbalanced factions in the franchise history. Good job, "fans".
Post edited October 13, 2023 by idbeholdME
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idbeholdME: I wouldn't call anyone sending death threats over a game a fan of anything. Mental is the only thing that comes to mind. Let alone people who call themselves "fans" but have no idea that the series had sci-fi elements in it long before that.

But they got what they deserved. A rushed town with 4 recycled units and one of the most imbalanced factions in the franchise history. Good job, "fans".
I don't see any relation or logic here; it's the same as saying that Britney Spears (or insert any other pop music star here) has no fans because some of them (call them whatever you prefer, the "evil people" for example) issued death threats to her, or that there was no criticism for the new payment policy for the Unity engine license because someone threatened them with death.

I fell in love with Heroes of Might & Magic since the very first game in 1995, and before that, I enjoyed playing the King's Bounty (1990) game. For me personally, it was a pure fantasy spin-off settled in a parallel universe. Those screenshots with new faction units from the local gaming magazine were hideous and completely out of place. At the time, I had absolutely no power to declare my dissatisfaction by any means.

Given how things unfolded afterwards, I wish they had developed the expansion as intended. That Conflux faction is an abomination, except for the Firebird.

I'm still eagerly awaiting the final campaign part for the Horn of the Abyss mod.

If I could, I would tell New World Computing that the upcoming Forge faction looks meh, and I consider myself as a fan of Heroes of Might & Magic, the spin-off series. Your point that the original Might & Magic lore is vast that it includes advanced technology and space traveling among other things is solid. However, it's important to note that there are fans of the original series and fans of the spin-off series, and they don't always mix well together.
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Cadaver747: I'm still eagerly awaiting the final campaign part for the Horn of the Abyss mod...
you mean the Wasteland town?
Post edited October 13, 2023 by MadalinStroe
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MadalinStroe: you mean the Wasteland town?
No idea what is Wasteland town. I meant Factory Town fueled with steampunk technology. Maybe its name was changed, last thing I heard that it was postponed indefintely.
https://heroes3wog.net/there-wont-be-horn-of-the-abyss-factory-update-1-7-in-new-year-2023/
Post edited October 13, 2023 by Cadaver747
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MadalinStroe: you mean the Wasteland town?
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Cadaver747: No idea what is Wasteland town. I meant Factory Town fueled with steampunk technology. Maybe its name was changed, last thing I heard that it was postponed indefintely.
https://heroes3wog.net/there-wont-be-horn-of-the-abyss-factory-update-1-7-in-new-year-2023/
It is in works, latest screen from september:
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=697685329058762&set=ecnf.100064519037233&locale
Isn't that something that happens all the time now, though? Adding something from a popular, unrelated franchise into some online game, like Superman in Fortnite or Lara Croft in Call of Duty, because we live a Ready Player One dystopia where nothing really means anything anymore and for most people popular culture is just "content" for consumption and recognising something familiar is what passes for meaningful interaction?
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MadalinStroe: you mean the Wasteland town?
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Cadaver747: No idea what is Wasteland town. I meant Factory Town fueled with steampunk technology. Maybe its name was changed, last thing I heard that it was postponed indefintely.
https://heroes3wog.net/there-wont-be-horn-of-the-abyss-factory-update-1-7-in-new-year-2023/
yes, the factory town. Each town has a terain type assigned to it. Barbarians use desert, wizards use snow... The factory town will use the wasteland terain.
Post edited October 13, 2023 by MadalinStroe
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Cadaver747: I don't see any relation or logic here; it's the same as saying that Britney Spears (or insert any other pop music star here) has no fans because some of them (call them whatever you prefer, the "evil people" for example) issued death threats to her, or that there was no criticism for the new payment policy for the Unity engine license because someone threatened them with death.
It's not the existence of the criticism itself that's the problem. Criticism can sometimes be expected from any fan group. It's that they ultimately gave in to a shouting vocal minority and the death threats are often cited as the tipping point in that story. They threw out a pretty deep in development faction over that and suddenly had to scramble to cobble together a completely new faction with the release date looming on the horizon in an order of months. Hence why there are 4 recycled units for example and we got generic fantasy faction #94285 instead of Forge.

The entire expansion and thus the game, suffered because of that. Not to mention it would have actually been interesting to get an expansion that'd follow the Evil ending of Might & Magic 7. And maybe opened the eyes of the dissatisfied to the series' roots. Even the very intro references the events of Might and Magic 6, so it was nothing really unheard of.
Post edited October 13, 2023 by idbeholdME
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Breja: Isn't that something that happens all the time now, though? Adding something from a popular, unrelated franchise into some online game, like Superman in Fortnite or Lara Croft in Call of Duty, because we live a Ready Player One dystopia where nothing really means anything anymore and for most people popular culture is just "content" for consumption and recognising something familiar is what passes for meaningful interaction?
I thought this was a joke...
These crossovers are all kinds of stupid, meh. :/
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idbeholdME: It's not the existence of the criticism itself that's the problem. Criticism can sometimes be expected from any fan group. It's that they ultimately gave in to a shouting vocal minority and the death threats are often cited as the tipping point in that story. They threw out a pretty deep in development faction over that and suddenly had to scramble to cobble together a completely new faction with the release date looming on the horizon in an order of months. Hence why there are 4 recycled units for example and we got generic fantasy faction #94285 instead of Forge.

The entire expansion and thus the game, suffered because of that. Not to mention it would have actually been interesting to get an expansion that'd follow the Evil ending of Might & Magic 7. And maybe opened the eyes of the dissatisfied to the series' roots. Even the very intro references the events of Might and Magic 6, so it was nothing really unheard of.
I have completely different information regarding the Forge faction cancellation: officially it was a demand from many fans (many gamers?). Yet I would speculate that fans were used as an excuse for poor development (there are some hints on that below). As for the "death threat" all I could find was "at least one email was a death threat". I doubt that some anonymous death threat sent by email might have forced someone like Greg Fulton to quit his job. Here is how he described himself:

You may call me Greg. Like most game designers, I'm sure you'll find me a bitter and cynical man, aged beyond my years, full of sarcasm, and inexplicably drawn to the horrors of game production like a lobotomized moth to the "pretty" flam
^Source:
https://mightandmagic.fandom.com/wiki/Diares_of_Gregory_Fulton

WHY DID YOU PULL THE FORGE?
Reason One: As much as I thought the actions of many fans showed a lack of vision and an inherent distrust for a company who have given them hundreds of hours of quality gameplay, I still didn’t want to fight our fans.
Reason Two: There wasn’t enough pro-Forge activity.
^Source (don't click the link but copy and paste it instead, GOG's forum engine tends to truncate it):
https://web.archive.org/web/20020827133951/http://h3.heroes.net.pl/info.htm

Roughly a week after the concept art was unveiled, GameSpot's Micheal Mullen interviewed Heroes III designer Gregory Fulton. Fulton revealed that the Forge had, in response to fan demand, been removed from Armageddon's Blade. It was to be replaced with the Elemental Conflux faction, which had been on the drawing board for a second expansion pack.
^Source:
https://www.vgfacts.com/game/heroesofmightandmagiciiitherestorationoferathia/

Weeks later, I began to realize, what Phelan had envisioned, and what the NWC art staff could deliver, were two very different things. Initial work on the Forge was not promising.
^Source:
https://heroes3wog.net/interview-with-greg-fulton-about-angels-gelu-and-heavenly-forge/
Post edited October 13, 2023 by Cadaver747