L'Orange - Mad Writer has gone name your price!
If you like hip hop with a noirish bent, created from some dusty classics, this is your lane! It's been getting quite a bit of play from me lately, so it's definitely worth checking out.

How long since any of you heard Mr. Wendal?

I live in a small town on the coast, this is what we have to offer in regards of Hip-Hop lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5qAbiJ3Q6Y

This woman is so full of herself, she brings the town down to a bad level.

Nice links LiquidOxygen80, and everyone, keep em coming.

PEACE

The Regiment - Four Finger Ring Music (prod. by Diamond D)
(Album The aRchives out now.)

Gotta love RA!
Kinda weird - sounds almost slavic with the "drawled" flow. Would actually make a good linguistic teaching tool - will recccomend to my mate.

yet again like the flows on this one - yet its doing what Brit-hop was in the late 80s / early 90s - trying to sound American - and I do mean in the sense how Brit-hop evolved into Garage, Grime etc - it eventually made its own sound, and people maintained accent.

I'm wondering now - even though I've experienced Germanic hip-hop since I was given a groups demo tape (this was 1993), is the overall scene there still in its infancy? - or are Rollo & Foxn more the norm (and its rather developed to a localised styling?). Not trolling you mate - just a vast difference between the two links there.

Neither, I guess. That's just what I like to listen to myself. ;) Rollo & Foxn are active underground rappers but not very well known (their track is from 2013), while the track from Die L.P. is underrated old stuff from 1998 that I just rediscovered. Foxn from Rollo & Foxn and Scu from Die L.P. formed the crew Verrückte Hunde of which I posted videos above, and their sound is consciously anachronistic 90's hip hop with references to Cypress Hill, Wu-Tang Clan etc. They don't aim to be popular or try to innovate, they just create the music that they enjoy themselves.

To tell the truth, I don't really have a clue about what's 'hot' in the German hip hop scene at the moment or whether there are any actual trends, or if there even is an active (more or less homogenic?) hip hop scene and what it's like. I'm kind of stuck in the 90's myself, and apart from the occasional refreshing underground crew - I mean refreshing even by being anachronistic and not following lame trends ;) - I usually don't listen to German hip hop all that much. Too much posing, too many rappers taking themselves too seriously or being serious homophobic macho dickheads and then declaring their primitive lyrics as smart, ironic or all in good fun, just an image that they've created as an artist or whatever; too many bands I once liked 'innovating' by switching from good old funny 90's rap to boring and pretentious pop or electro, too much mainstream ghetto wannabe gangster rap with kindergarten flows to appeal to (pre)teens; I guess in a way I'm a hip hop cliché myself, but for me in large parts German hip hop has actually taken a step back from the 90's and got worse instead of better - which doesn't mean that there aren't any cool groups anymore, just that the tracks that I deem cool myself, often sound like 90's hip hop. ;)

Still, I think there's quite some variety among the videos that I and Bavarian posted in this thread; I just don't know how representative they are for anything. Just as in the US, I think the best known, most popular and trendy rap in Germany is the least interesting one. :P

Well that makes more sense to me now.

*points at horrifying dayglo shell suit

Is it superglued on?! O____o

But since you wanted to know about the norm, here's the popular German hip hop that I don't listen to. ;)

Haftbefehl - Chabos wissen wer der Babo ist
Kollegah - King
Bushido - Stress Ohne Grund (feat. Shindy)
Kool Savas - Limit (feat. Alex Prince)

You do have a point, btw. I can't think of any real musical innovations in German hip hop on a grand scale that would be comparable to something like Grime in the UK, no musical genres invented by German hip hop artists.

Well, you still have innovation otherwise - DHR did quite a few things differently.
Might not be hip-hop, but it is rap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bivsP_h6l0s

Finally had a chance to listen to all of these - some decent marks for bits here n there, but I see entirely what you mean - its very much an "electroplated bling" sound...

...F-U-C-K!

THATS IT!

- sorry - been trying to come up with a name for my cuz' new dj slot at a club he DJs for... SORTED!

Anyways, yeah I get what you mean - UK went through the same thing until the UK sound became a UK sound. I think I see the beginnings of some of that here in what you've linked - the kind of thing a promoter or producer might notice. Little glimpses. If I'm right, then it could be quite a hardcore sound given proper chance.

Edit: that Kool Savas has a UK influence! heheh! - "pop" tinged - but actually the one with the talent to my (unpracticed) german-speaking ears compared to the others. Like to hear him on a grime beat! He also didnt just opt for generic eye candy in his video - gotta give points for that!

Yeah, he's different from the others I linked to, in that he's originally an underground rapper of the 90's and respected by many of the others. His older stuff sounds more like this:

Plattenpapzt feat. Kool Savas - King of Rap (2000)
Creutzfeld & Jakob - Fehdehandschuh (feat. Kool Savas) (2000, 2nd verse)
Kool Savas - Till ab Joe (2002)


Personally I never liked him much, not even as 90's/early 2k underground rapper, because I don't care for his lyrics and language at all. I will admit though that there's something to his flow, if you consider the words purely as sound and ignore their meaning, which I assume is much easier for you than me. ;)

Not really - as ive mentioned before I was near bilingual in Deutsche about 20 years ago. A bunch of head injuries (among other things - including a lack of practise) kind of put that down to "poor quality schoolboy deutsche".
I pick up words, phrases etc and (no matter the language) seem to have some understanding of whats being said - but the flow with this really throws a lot of that out of the window (oddly with Russian I find it easier - though the beat breaks up much of the percieved "slavic mashing" - as ive heard it called - dont like the term though).

If I were reading his lyrics against the beat - I'd probably get a lot of it (aside from slang perhaps).

...was gonna add something there but I think I'm going tangent now and ive had bugger all sleep! O_____o

Oh, ok, I must have missed that. Well, I think "poor quality schoolboy deutsch" should be sufficient to understand the lyrics, as long as you know what "schwul" is, you're good. :P