Several huge wall of lies and bullying Bullying, huh? Didn't you start insulting people first, in your very first post in this thread?
I have never said you can only play games that I approve of And again lies.
"I fully support banning the porn games" How will other GoG users buy these games if they are banned? That's right - no way. Therefore, they will only be able to buy games that you approve. Or "do not disapprove," if you prefer that wording.
What I have said is, porn games are designed to objectify and degrade women, and it’s about time women were shown the same respect men are. The man is not treated like that. The man is treated with respect. It's about time we stopped getting treated as objects These words were, at least, excessive and unfair exaggeration, if not something more.
1) Not all women have the same opinion on this matter as you do. Should their opinions be simply ignored?
2) There are games (albeit in a smaller number, for now) in which role reversal takes place and what you call "objectification" occurs in relation to male characters. The existence of such games contradicts part of your statements.
3) I still have not heard an explanation of how exactly what happens in games affects real people. In relation to fictional characters, a lot of things are permissible that are unacceptable in relation to real people. And the fact that someone in games seduces, beats, tortures, kills, eats fictional characters alive does not mean at all that he approves of such actions in real life and, moreover, does something similar himself. It is the ignorance of this simple fact that gives rise to suspicions that you do not separate reality and fiction. Or maybe when you say "we" you write yourself into the ranks of the game characters, but I just didn't understand it? If so, it is, of course, a completely different matter. In this case, I will have something to think about before continuing our discussion.
4) Why do you stubbornly ignore the fact that games with erotic content are very, VERY different, and not all of them fit the label that you constantly try to put on them? Or in general, any demonstration of bed scenes, in your opinion, is an objectification of a woman? If so, we will have to ban thousands of non-porn films...
I don’t go to the game page for porn games. You know as well as I do that screenshots are added to the carousel on the front page. And again, you're not being completely honest. On the main page, only banners are shown, not screenshots from games. And if you open a search for the corresponding tag, you can clearly see that, with the exception of two or three games (including Lula: The Sexy Empire, added to the site many years ago), banners do not make any special emphasis on certain parts of the bodies, not to mention about demonstrating something frank. I remember the heated debate in the themes of Detective Girl of the Steam City and Mary Skelter 2, but I don't see a hint of anything obscene or "objectifying" in their banners. On the banner of the first, taking into account the style of drawing, it is not entirely clear at all - a girl or a guy is depicted there.
Why should I be forced to see this when visiting a game site? If you want to never see erotic games - demand filters that will allow
YOU PERSONALLY to never see them again, and not to delete these games for everyone. Including for women who also play them. And then you and I will not only stop arguing, but in general we will fight side by side with the stubborn technical department of GoG
Yes, this is supposed to be a game site, not a porn site. Yet you are demanding porn You may not like it very much, but these are also games. The presence of sex scenes does not affect the gameplay elements found in non-erotic games of the same genres. Games are sold in the game store, what a disgrace!
Your outrage would be appropriate if GoG started re-uploading videos from PornHub. Although regular
videos are also sold on this
gaming site, by the way (
https://www.gog.com/ru/movies). Would you like to complain about this, for starters?
And you bully and insult anyone who doesn’t like it And again about this. You first started offending people, and now you're trying to play the victim? If you start a discussion with an arrogant and contemptuous tone, you should not be offended when you don’t get a respectful tone in return. If you want respect and understanding, learn to show it yourself. You are not a goddess or even a queen, before whom everyone is obliged to kowtow, even when she behaves impolitely.
No matter how much you rant and rave, the fact remains that porn games are designed to degrade and objectify women A fact is something that is supported by evidence. Your statements are just an opinion and nothing more. As I said above, there are women whose opinion is opposite to yours. Women who play these games and enjoy them. Why is your opinion more valuable and more correct than their opinion? On what basis do you call your personal opinion a fact? Above, the person gave links to studies indicating the fallacy of your opinion. So there is no need to talk about any facts on your part.
But I am one who stands up to you. Wow, the level of pathos of this phrase is breathtaking! I just sit at my house, play video games and do no harm to anyone. What are you up against there, couch warrior? You may not have noticed, but it was you who created the conflict, not me or anyone else. It was your "I am for the ban of these games" that gave rise to the need to fight back.
It doesn't concern you or anyone else what people do as long as their actions are within the law. Judging by the fact that porn games are quietly sold in official stores, they are still not prohibited by law. That's all.
Oh… you definitely have a bad attitude towards women. Your insults in this thread prove that. And this is again, for the umpteenth time, lies, slander and an attempt to use belonging to the female gender as a trump card. Your gender in this situation does not matter in the slightest (how should I know, maybe a sexless Martian is sitting on the other side of the screen? As they say - "On the Internet, nobody knows you're a cat"). All that was said was a reaction to the POSITION of a person who demands to take away from everyone what seems bad to him. It doesn't matter - whether you are a woman, a man, a sexless alien/robot or even a hermaphrodite chinchilla - this would not change my answers to your messages in any way.
Gersen: I would say that when peoples are pushing their opinion as a "
fact" and calling for an outright ban based on it they are already way past the realm of "
discussion"...
Exactly!
P.S.:
“Overall, the ‘moral panic’ over video games and sexualization is pretty much following the ‘paint-by-numbers’ pattern of the video game debate. Lots of hyperbole and moral outrage, but very little evidence that video games are causing any ‘harm’ to either male or female players,” Ferguson told PsyPost. A professor of psychology accurately described exactly what happens regularly on this forum...