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Posted October 17, 2014
That line about hating the world sounded like something a 15 year old HS kid would say. Not a dude that age.
Posted October 17, 2014
Personally, I think it will give the politicians and bleeding hearts out there plenty of ammo. I don
t hate the game from its trailer, but I'm not going to grab it off the shelf. Part of what makes it over the top for me is the realistic presentation of people begging for their lives during these cutscene executions. And how graphically it portrays it. Postal is brightly colored with a lot of dark humor mixed in... This looks like postal if it was run through a modernizing engine and had all the fun and self satirizing boiled out of it. But who knows. There might be a lot of pointing the finger at itself as a joke in the game. It just didn't come across that way from the trailer.
Posted October 17, 2014
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paladin181: Personally, I think it will give the politicians and bleeding hearts out there plenty of ammo. I don
t hate the game from its trailer, but I'm not going to grab it off the shelf. Part of what makes it over the top for me is the realistic presentation of people begging for their lives during these cutscene executions. And how graphically it portrays it. Postal is brightly colored with a lot of dark humor mixed in... This looks like postal if it was run through a modernizing engine and had all the fun and self satirizing boiled out of it. But who knows. There might be a lot of pointing the finger at itself as a joke in the game. It just didn't come across that way from the trailer.
Exactly, I feel it's trying to show things without sugarcoating and not trying to make people feel comfortable about it. I hope the game ends up being good.
Posted October 17, 2014
Wouldn't going against the trend not rather be a Unreal Engine4 quality game about an escaped nymphomaniac going on a sex spree instead just another overly violent game? oO
Posted October 17, 2014
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anothername: Wouldn't going against the trend not rather be a Unreal Engine4 quality game about an escaped nymphomaniac going on a sex spree instead just another overly violent game? oO
Oh hell no! Not during Gamergate, please, no! X-P

I was expecting the trailer to show the maternity or nursery ward scene... Violence for the sake of violence.... Is the sequel going to be about abducting people and torturing them in your basement until you eventually cannibalize them? At what point do you draw the line?
Post edited October 17, 2014 by chadjenofsky
Posted October 17, 2014
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anothername: Wouldn't going against the trend not rather be a Unreal Engine4 quality game about an escaped nymphomaniac going on a sex spree instead just another overly violent game? oO
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chadjenofsky: Oh hell no! Not during Gamergate, please, no! X-P

I was expecting the trailer to show the maternity or nursery ward scene... Violence for the sake of violence.... Is the sequel going to be about abducting people and torturing them in your basement until you eventually cannibalize them? At what point do you draw the line?
Rage and wanting to punish society for wrongs or imagined slights has nothing to do with torture and eating delicious human flesh. You'd think that after all the shootings and the repeated patterns, people would start getting interested in understanding the phenomenon.
Posted October 17, 2014
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realkman666: ...and eating delicious human flesh.
We should totally share recipes! I know a killer fava bean dish.
Posted October 17, 2014
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realkman666: ...and eating delicious human flesh.
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chadjenofsky: We should totally share recipes! I know a killer fava bean dish.
Yes! And it's insane how apple cider vinegar loosens up these stressed tendons.
Posted October 17, 2014
Looks cool but a lot of people are bashing the trailer
Posted October 17, 2014
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DreamedArtist: Looks cool but a lot of people are bashing the trailer
Haters gonna Hatred.
Posted October 17, 2014
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Crosmando: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrX7G-1xPLs

We need more games like this. Just as a middle-finger to all the hipster indies who think video games need to be some profound art-form tackling social issues, just games that are unashamedly games.
"I just fcking hate this world..."

Ummm... sounds like the game is about tackling social issues, in a rather violent way. So the guy hates humanity, and goes on rampage to fix the glitch he sees in the world.

Seriously speaking, if this game gets any recognition, I guess it will yet again open the same can of worms how games feed the bad thoughts of school shooters etc. :( Yeah, there were Postal games before, but frankly at least the first two were rather comical and cartoon-like in their presentation IIRC. I recall Playstation also had some serial killer games, so I guess this discussion has been there before over and over again.

And then we will have some Sarkeesian complaining how this game doesn't have a female protagonists murdering people, but shows women only as prey and victims... Or does this game let you choose the gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation etc. of your character? Like a black lesbian middle-aged woman with a shotgun?
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Posted October 17, 2014
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timppu: Yeah, there were Postal games before, but frankly at least the first two were rather comical and cartoon-like in their presentation IIRC.
There are some differences.
To demonstrate, here's intermission music from Postal 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWXmGBRDFjU
And Postal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cio4Bx_9A8k

Also that trailer is dope
Posted October 17, 2014
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JKHSawyer: However, there is an important thing you must understand about Postal and Hatred. Even in Postal, slaughtering innocents is PLAYER CHOICE. You only have to kill the cops to proceed.
Postal 2 shows how thinly-veiled that player choice is sometimes. You can get complete the get milk objective by going to the store and waiting in line like everyone else, sure. You’re not supposed to though. Just like you’re not supposed to follow the rules of traffic in GTA. We’re stuffed with games where the hero is a mass murdering psychopath, and find it perfectly acceptable because the game insists he’s a good guy, even though what’s on screen doesn’t support that at all. It’s gotten to the point where it would actually be refreshing to have this conversation:

‘So what’s the hero like?’

‘He’s a mass murdering psychopath.’

‘So he’s out to avenge his dead wife, right?’

‘No, he’s just a mass murdering psychopath.’

‘But he only kills criminals right? Or terrorists?’

‘Mass murdering psychopath. How are you not getting this?’

‘Steve, I don’t feel we’re on the same page here.’
Posted October 17, 2014
I don't get what's the big deal, this is how everyone plays GTA, so wtf?

But I do love that the outrage crowd is giving this game free publicity.
Posted October 17, 2014
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Rinu: Given how uncomfortably dizzy I felt playing Lucius and long after finishing it where the point was basically set up gruesome deaths of innocent people, I can safely say Hatred is not a game I am going to play.
Role-playing a slaughter of frightened people isn't exactly how I intend to spend my free time.

As for their commentary about high art, games were gone a long way to reward players by visually more and more detailed chainsaw slit scenes in their shooters. If anything, a game pushing boundaries even further is kind of expected outcome of that evolution. In that regard, titles like Dear Esther or Papo & Yo fall into the "something against trends" category much better.
fully agree, I'm no prude but I just wouldn't want to play a game in which I'm clearly hurting innocent people (yeah, silly helpful me, want to make people happy, not see them beg for life and killing them afterwards)

yeah yeah, I know it's just a videogame and it's not real... but it's like reading a book and not being moved because the people in it are just words written on paper, not real people

also (and I'm sorry if this is a total bullshit), I've read somewhere that the makers are polish nazis...

anyway, do we need more hate? probably yes from what I've read here :D
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