I had exactly the same impression.

They should be allowed to make it for the sake of freedom, but they won't get any support from me.

@Everyone that doesn't have a Google+/Youtube account, you can see the trailer and gameplay footage here:
https://duckduckgo.com/l/?kh=-1&uddg=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hatredgame.com%2F

I hear you about maybe possibly giving a damn if the game turns out to have some kind of deeper meaning. Sadly, the developer's comments thus far don't lead to much hope on that front:

"These days, when a lot of games are heading to be polite, colorful, politically correct, and trying to be some kind of higher art, rather than just an entertainment--we wanted to create something against trends," the studio said about Hatred.

Not exactly sure how they can expect people to expect some kind of deeper meaning when they are tired of games trying to have one.

Moved this from the giveaway thred. Might as well keep things collected. It is in response to the large monkey.
http://www.gog.com/forum/general/vote_for_hatred_on_the_wishlist_giveaway/post60 "If there were no laws tomorrow, people would have the freedom to buy guns and murder innocent people for fun. Do you think it would be right for people to make use of that freedom? " Refusing to sell something and being hostile is two very different things.... I have asked you a few times who these 'innocent people' are.... If indeed a store is 'hostile' towards 'innocent people', then yes they are bad. However, here this do not happen, as the stores are not hostile (prove this), nor are the developers innocent (as they knowingly are making a controversial game) They do - it is a disgusting and controversial game. No one should ever be forced to sell something they do not like against their will... and you are talking about peoples freedom? again.... you are a rhetorical analyst's wet dream. Saying something over and over do not make it true. Indeed, as is the freedom to sell something does not mean it is a good reason to do so. You can choose not to do so if you do not like the product or what it stands for. It is a rubbish analogy which do not say anything, except muddling the waters further then they where before. If you need to retort to analogies like this, you know you are on thin ice. I do not need any, as I am quite sure on my position indeed.

(sorry for the late reply, the forum ate my first post and I had to redo it)

So they are tired of games trying to have a higher meaning, so they made a game that was mean to be entertainment, *but* they also wanted to make it a game that makes the player ask questions. So they want to both shun the tendency toward higher meanings and yet are also claiming that their game has a higher meaning. This smacks of having one's cake and trying to eat it. Either it's just entertainment meant to rebut a perceived trend toward games being treated like higher art, or they are trying to make something that has the aspirations of higher art. Frankly, the whole "player has to ask" nonsense seems like something that they pulled out of their ass so that they could try to justify the violence with some artistic aspiration, the same artistic aspirations they sought to buck.

"Man, fuck modern trends toward PC and artsy-fartsy games! This is some pure entertainment that will blow your motherfucking mind! Oh, and lest anyone call this exploitative and tasteless, it also serves as an interactive fiction statement about sadism *tweaks monacle while extending the pinky*."

I want that game and I will buy it wherever it is available. If some hippys pee their pants because there is a game that is everything against their moral compass the better for me. And ungh canibal holocaust was realy disgusting with that animal cruelty... that was REAL...the rest was fake but still hit a nerve back then!

But we are talking about pixels. Games might look somewhat realistic today.... still PIXELS!

And it shows me again that eastern european devs. arent that brainwashed yet with this hippy nonsense. I hope more devs just crush all the hippy influence and do offensive stuff again. I dont mind it!
Maybe they wanted to tell the hippys just F*** you and cry me some river. We dont give a damn about you hippys! They dont like to make the happy hippys happy :D


AND if it is moddable to some degree... i know what kind of new skins I will do... gamergate haters gave me a lot of variety of ideas to start with!

"Refusing to sell something and being hostile is two very different things.... " = WRONG
Read here and you will see what "hostile" means. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hostile?s=t

Refusing to sell something to people for no good reason is being hostile. And trying to pressure GOG into not selling Hatred is no different. Hostile? How? If GOG doesn't sell the game then a lot of people A) wont be able to play the game because they have zero tolerance for DRM or B) be forced to buy the Steam version which is inferior in every way compared to a GOG. Both A) and B) = denying innocent people some happiness and money(for the developers and the publisher). Both A) and B) = being hostile to innocent people. I will explain why they are innocent further down the post.

The innocent people are the developers who are making this game, the people who working as their publishers and the people who want a GOG version of this game. And being part of a controversial game is not immoral or a crime... And neither is playing and enjoying such a game. So if someone is not guilty of anything immoral or illegal then that person is innocent. Don't believe me? Look here http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/innocent?s=t

"Indeed, as is the freedom to sell something does not mean it is a good reason to do so. You can choose not to do so if you do not like the product or what it stands for."
If a store chooses not sell Hatred because the store doesn't like Hatred and the store doesn't like what Hatred stands for then the store is being hostile towards an innocent group of people for no good reason and that is wrong.

I'm not on thin ice. LOL Not even close. My analogy might be bad but in no way did it muddle the waters. If it muddled your waters, then that is your problem.

Who had the silly idea to preasure gog to not sell hatred game ? Can someone give me a link please to these idiots !
And ey, depression quest is way more disturbing then hatred game!

http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/no_for_hatred_on_gog

I thought it was about sheer and utter hatred? Sadism doesn't need to be involved. The protagonist doesn't necessarily get any pleasure of it but merely does it as an outlet of his hatred. I find sadism more disturbing but also more interesting as a theme for a game than hatred but hatred is good too.

thanks!

Depression is a serious thing that I suffer from - I could not stand that game (Depression Quest).

As for the link to do not distribute hatred on GOG.com - Here you go - You can thank Yumlick for this. He is advocating for Censorship BTW.

http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/no_for_hatred_on_gog

We the users of GOG who want this game on GOG have more than double votes of the Say no to hatred.

http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/hatred


Also for you SJWs

It is only game why you heff to be mad?

I think i had a few depressions too. I´m not sure and it´s not a topic i want to bring into public forums. But yeah, many people who actually suffer from depression right now also said that the "game" is not ... I didnt even understood what the point was. Anyway good luck to you ;)

And that censorship stuff is realy offensive to me. People actually lived in socialism or "communism" before the fall of the soviet union. IT´s just not right!

I agree - It is not right both censorship and Agenda pushers are bad for everyone.

We are having a problem with Agenda pushers here in the united states. But that is for another thread. :)

I fear that this game will run like shit on my laptop.

From the Hatred website...
"We provoke this question using new Unreal Engine 4, pushing its physics (or rather PhysX) systems to the limits and trying to make the visuals as good as possible."

PhysX is a hungry fucking beast...


If I don't get at least 30 fps non stop, then there will be Hatred, indeed. Hatred towards my laptop...