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I voted for the game on the wishlist prior to the "hype". I liked the concept, but, when it became this whole "ooh, it's AO" thing and the gameplay videos just seemed boring, I stopped caring about the game.

Co-op seems unnatural for a game like Hatred ("Hey, buddy, wanna go commit genocide?" "Sure!" "Remember, don't shoot me, even though I'm a human being like all the others you despise."). PvP would probably be more fitting. But...then I remember this is Hatred that we're talking about.
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htown1980: heh heh. good point.
That is funny. Believe it or not, I was not aware of that fraud. It sounds horrible. I was just comparing it to the most voted. Lets try the second most voted. That appears to be System Shock 2 (unless of course a similar fraud has been perpetuated).

4,100 / 36,000 x 100 = 11%.

Hmm... 11% still sounds like a minority to me. Thoughts?

Absolutely. I wonder how many people actually use gog. I would guess 100,000s (but I could be completely wrong) so it seems really strange to me that someone would suggest 4,100 could be the majority of gog users...
Fair enough.

I don't think anyone suggested that 4k users is 'majority of gog users'. First of all, majority likely doesn't give a damn about forums, wishlists, or actually interacting in any way other than picking up a few games on sales. Second, it likely doesn't give a damn about this particular game at all, so if that's what your point is, I agree. What I would say however is, if you're using the absolute user base, then there is hardly a single game where majority would care about enough to wishlist or request or complain etc.

When we are talking about vocal minority, or who is the vocal minority, we have to take into account the amount of people that are actually active on regular basis and care enough to have an opinion on the subject. 4k would be drop in the ocean if it was a count on Steam. What you would have to compare it with is the amount of people that voted on wishlists within the time frame of its existence, or with the wish counts of the items that were created around the similar time, which is an info we sadly don't have a way of getting.

It gives the suggestion of what said users want to see or pay for. Wether it was deemed insignificant enough indeed, or there's something else... GOG has made it's decision. If they bring it at some point, it will be welcome, considering the Desura bankrupcy, but I don't think anything we say at this point (or perhaps ever) really matters.
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DeathDiciple: It gives the suggestion of what said users want to see or pay for. Wether it was deemed insignificant enough indeed, or there's something else... GOG has made it's decision. If they bring it at some point, it will be welcome, considering the Desura bankrupcy, but I don't think anything we say at this point (or perhaps ever) really matters.
I think tfishell and Pajama Sam would disagree.
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Garrison72: Hatred co-op is coming, I'm Ivar on Steam for those who revel in killing innocents. :)

Meanwhile, GOG is still pussin' out I take it?
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dick1982: go back to steam and make the fatboy fatter. good. don't come back. please.
It's all good, fake fun. Is the game great? No. Is it great to let off steam after a long day of work? Hell yes. I hope to see you in co-op! It'll be swell!
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Ophelium: I think tfishell and Pajama Sam would disagree.
Heh, hard to say cause we never know the reasons from their side. I'd be glad to be proven wrong, and not just about this one game.
Does anyone even still have illusions the wishlist plays any part on GOG's release decisions? The bulk of indie games being released are in the low double digits (Infinifactory 19 votes, Ronin and Anna's Quest 16 votes each, The Guild of Dungeoneering and Odallus 3 votes each. Seems like recently only Her Story and Samorost 2 managed to break three digits and make it into the low 100's , the wishlist is as significant as GOG's commitment to flat worldwide pricing.

I guess my thoughts aren't much different than they were a couple of weeks ago; Why are so many of you obsessed with fighting?

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Ophelium: Co-op seems unnatural for a game like Hatred ("Hey, buddy, wanna go commit genocide?" "Sure!" "Remember, don't shoot me, even though I'm a human being like all the others you despise.").
Love can bloom even on a battlefield.
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RayRay13000: ...I don't really have anything to add to this topic.
That seems to be the theme of the party.
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htown1980: heh heh. good point.
That is funny. Believe it or not, I was not aware of that fraud. It sounds horrible. I was just comparing it to the most voted. Lets try the second most voted. That appears to be System Shock 2 (unless of course a similar fraud has been perpetuated).

4,100 / 36,000 x 100 = 11%.

Hmm... 11% still sounds like a minority to me. Thoughts?

Absolutely. I wonder how many people actually use gog. I would guess 100,000s (but I could be completely wrong) so it seems really strange to me that someone would suggest 4,100 could be the majority of gog users...
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DeathDiciple: Fair enough.

I don't think anyone suggested that 4k users is 'majority of gog users'.
I thought that was exactly what this post was suggesting.

http://www.gog.com/forum/general/hatred_game/post2644

SirPrimalform: Really? I would class the people who seem to care about GOG not releasing Hatred as a vocal minority...

LeonardoCornejo: The community wishlist says otherwise.

Not sure why someone would suggest the community wishlist was evidence that the people who cared were not a vocal minority if that wasn't what they were implying...
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htown1980: Not sure why someone would suggest the community wishlist was evidence that the people who cared were not a vocal minority if that wasn't what they were implying...
*Shrugs*. Frankly, you'd have a hard time finding a game where the number of people that actually care about are not a minority, or people that care which store they buy it on, compared to total number of users. Opinions, interests, agendas, age, background, etc etc. Some do generate much more interest than the others, that is all.
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Garrison72: Hatred co-op is coming, I'm Ivar on Steam for those who revel in killing innocents. :)

Meanwhile, GOG is still pussin' out I take it?
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dick1982: go back to steam and make the fatboy fatter. good. don't come back. please.
You should go back back to the insane asylum you escaped from.
Will it be released here?
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DeathDiciple: Fair enough.

I don't think anyone suggested that 4k users is 'majority of gog users'.
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htown1980: I thought that was exactly what this post was suggesting.

http://www.gog.com/forum/general/hatred_game/post2644

SirPrimalform: Really? I would class the people who seem to care about GOG not releasing Hatred as a vocal minority...

LeonardoCornejo: The community wishlist says otherwise.

Not sure why someone would suggest the community wishlist was evidence that the people who cared were not a vocal minority if that wasn't what they were implying...
You can spin whatever majority/minority reading you want from the wishlist, 4000 people voted in favor of Hatred being released here, a further 400 voted against it in what I believe is an unique entry in GOG's wishlist (an entry against a game being released), so majority among those that cared enough to vote one way or the other, minority among the total, indifferent user-base.
I think you guys dropped this.
Post edited July 19, 2015 by Breja
10,000 years from now the only thing left on this planet are going to be cockroaches and this thread.
Hit it!