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Posted June 05, 2015
So not remotely correct, too bad. When they make a really politically correct game?
Posted June 05, 2015
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LeonardoCornejo: I just want to get something clarified, from someone who actually played the game. Is it true that the current build is unstable? Because if thst is true that could close the case for now. GOG rejects unstable builds unless the game is a best seller or something like that. Most unstable indie games never get released until they fix the issues.
The game is poorly optimized. But I didn't experienced any other issues.
Posted June 05, 2015
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LeonardoCornejo: Yes, I watchd a couple, and debunkings and decosntructuons of them too. Her videos are full of lies and cherrypicking.
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Dalswyn: Cherrypicking, sure. Lies, not so much. Why do you feel the need to antagonize her?
Many supporters of gamergate are a shame, not all, but many (mostly all that interfere with Zoe Quinn personal life) but Anita is just an opportunist making money and taking profit of any small detail she can use to win visits, RTs, buzz and economic support.

She picture herself pretty well with MAD MAX recently, and more recently and even in a clearer way with THE WITCHER 3

Feminist Frequency ‏@femfreq 11 hhace 11 horas
Enemies call Geralt “freak” & “mutant’ due to fictional prejudice against magic. When they call Ciri “cunt” it’s rooted in real life sexism.

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Feminist Frequency ‏@femfreq 11 hhace 11 horas
Enemies in Witcher 3 yell gendered insults at the playable female character but insults thrown at the male lead are decidedly not gendered.

Yeah SURE Anita, let's check one of your "curated" games...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGYNF2wWQAACgeZ.png

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YaTEdiGo: By the way... I am the only one that would LOVE a XCOM with HATRED graphics, gore, destruction physics and isometric style? (But turn-based and with the same strategic and tactical options of the old XCOMs)

Seriously I couldn´t stop thinking about it when I was walking through the neighborhood, much more when I just jumped in the second floor of some buildings.

Wow, that WOULD BE a GAME to consider. I always wanted an UFO DARK game, in isometric view, with breathtaking dark art design, good animations, and not third person views, just tactical isometric game-play.

(And yes I own XENONAUTS and I think is great, and I enjoyed the new XCOMs and also own the Aftermath series here on GOG, but I still think there is not a "perfect" UFO game, with really scary and evil "greys" or Aliens, in a much darker and gore setup than all the XCOM like games we already have.)
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DeathDiciple: Yeah, I'd very much like to see something like that.
Really? I am glad I didn't been the only one that imagined this, seriously I think the engine and the arts would fit something like this so well! And it would be also a much more interesting game.
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LeonardoCornejo: I mostly ignored her until recently that she began to gain power, all her propaganda talks, her "Listen and believe thing", and her apearance on TV make her the next Jack Thompson (minus the honor) and we both know he was not ignored, he was proven wrong over and over again.
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DCT: And she gained power because people paid attention to her and brought focus on her which causes more people to notice her, which in turn causes her proponents to lash out at her more and bring more attention to her which causes even more of her proponents lash out at her and bring more attention to her.. and so on and so forth.

See the problem? Let's take Mr. Thompson shall we? he didn't go away because people were hitting him with "truth bombs" left and right exposing his arugements for the flimsy pile of mindless drivel they were, he went away because he made a ass out of himself one time too many, decided to challenge the constitutionality of the Florida bar association, made a public ass out of himself and got disbarred and then people just ignored him as he no longer a credible threat since no one in the general public is going to take seriously a attorney who got himself disbarred because he went even further off the deep end.

In other words he went away because no one was paying any attention to him anymore because he was a disbarred discrace that lost his license to practice law by doing something insanely stupid.
Thompson was easily debunked because he was only a puritan, Sarkesian is a con actor and a puritan, but mixed with feminism is very difficult for anyone to debunk her as you would be automatically considered a mysogin or worse.

Feminism doesn't need to be puritan to be feminism, but all together comes to be confusing, so if you are a feminist woman, but you aren't a puritan, you can choose to ingenuously support such puritan causes because they look like "feminism", or just not approved them and be accused of not being a "feminist" supporter, even being a woman and probably supporting many other less puritan feminist agendas. The "left" in USA is reaching the "right" more and more, in many issues. No wonders many of them are complaining about video-games being patriarchal to later defend the rights of monotheistic and patriarchal religions like Christianity or Muslims. Do not misunderstand me, I think they could be defended, is just that it doesn't make any sense to defend MANLY GODS because you know, religion is a "sacred cow" and complain about "cunt" insults in THE WITCHER3... Funny to see people outraged with Milo Manara Spiderwoman to later be happy defending the rights of being a believer of monotheistic religions that are extremely afraid of the women body, makes pretty much sense...

As I said these people have much more of PURITANISM than FEMINISM...

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etb: I won't buy it outside GOG, but just to know, is this game is REALLY politically correct? And with this I mean, can you really kill everything you might find in a city? I understood there are no child, but what about:

- minorities; I do not want to appear racist you know, can obviously I kill whites, but what about blacks, chinese, etc?
- in the world not everyone is young and fit, people can be fat or old, can I kill old and fat guys/gals?
- animals like dogs, cats, or more exotic ones like snakes or lions in a Zoo; I do not want to appear specist either why kill only homo sapiens?
- gun nuts, we know most weapons are in the hands of civilians in the US[1], I'd like to play the myth 4;
- other kind of unusual people like crossdressers...
- can I play as a women?

If it is really politically correct, well... then it is an istabuy when/if appears here.

[1] Weapons in the US.
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DCT: Minorites I didn't really see but it's hard to tell since it's in black and white and overhead prespective
In the gameplay I have seen, I never seen fat people or any elderly
No animals
Yes there are gun nuts and they seem to be as annoying as the cops as they will come after you and try to take you out and they look like they will gang up on you.
No cross dressers, this isn't Kill all the Fags..
No you can't play as a Woman, just a emo glenn danzig in a trench coat spouting lines that sound like they belong in a Lincon Park song or a teenager's attempt at Death metal lyrics.
LOL, pretty acurate...
Post edited June 05, 2015 by YaTEdiGo
Posted June 05, 2015
Sometimes you need to let go your aggresions and it´s good when you can do that using a video game. I was 2 month in the hospital after a suicide attempt and i still have lots of aggressions and these i can calm down with video games. I can only speak for myself but it helps me when i can fuck up things via an illusion and i have a day to day experience. Our paranoid idiots from the other world dont know anything about aggresions so it seems or the human mind in general. Why are the idiots who say that violoent video games are blah blah always on amok mode when they got some opposition. Strange huh. We use video games and they or YOU use real people to let go your supressed aggresions because you or they are to weak to just realize your own nature.

I dont know who is worse the one using a video game or the one who constantly insult and bash other peoples OWN WAY OF LIFE or passion on the internet.

I forgot to mention that after such an experience you can do anything in your mind which is not a great thing realy to go through BUT you always know that there is a difference between real people and your illusions. And someone like banana wu or anita sark. should be thankful that they live such a fancy little live now riding on big money....
Post edited June 05, 2015 by NWN_babayaga
Posted June 05, 2015
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NWN_babayaga: Sometimes you need to let go your aggresions and it´s good when you can do that using a video game. I was 2 month in the hospital after a suicide attempt and i still have lots of aggressions and these i can calm down with video games. I can only speak for myself but it helps me when i can fuck up things via an illusion and i have a day to day experience. Our paranoid idiots from the other world dont know anything about aggresions so it seems or the human mind in general. Why are the idiots who say that violoent video games are blah blah always on amok mode when they got some opposition. Strange huh. We use video games and they or YOU use real people to let go your supressed aggresions because you or they are to weak to just realize your own nature.
Man, there are TONS of things you can do in life even when you feel down, you can always postpone any attempt to get rid off your life, and do something crazy instead, like just put your bag at your back and travel, or try to write a book, do some sport, quit your job and make your own company or business, if you want to die sometimes, why not try to enjoy something totally different before that, maybe will make you enjoy your life? Life has more opportunities than we think, and death has just plain nothing to offer... and eventually, soon or later will come by itself, so try to do something with your time here.

Kudos for still be in this world and strength to overcome your problems!
Post edited June 05, 2015 by YaTEdiGo
Posted June 05, 2015
Thank you very much and i´m much better. Physical training just relaxing in pure nature and VIDEO GAMES help me the most. I just wanted to say that because it´s important to let aggressions out without harming real people ;)
Posted June 05, 2015
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NWN_babayaga: Thank you very much and i´m much better. Physical training just relaxing in pure nature and VIDEO GAMES help me the most. I just wanted to say that because it´s important to let aggressions out without harming real people ;)
Good! I found in my past that martial arts relaxed me a lot, and I never used them to beat anyone on the street :)
Posted June 05, 2015
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LeonardoCornejo: I mostly ignored her until recently that she began to gain power, all her propaganda talks, her "Listen and believe thing", and her apearance on TV make her the next Jack Thompson (minus the honor) and we both know he was not ignored, he was proven wrong over and over again.
Thompson dug his own grave. Those who were susceptible to his arguments were not players, and would not have been, even without him. He was noisy, but mostly inconsenquential. The harm done to Dungeons & Dragons by claims of it being a satanist game weakening the willpower of young people is real, yet did not necessitate huge collective action. from gamers, who went on with gaming, happily.

Devs and specialized media took care of him.

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amok: She owe the anti-Sarkessian crowd a huge dept for making her famous :)
Indeed, and it's not too late for reversing the process and leaving her rambling in her corner. She has a point on some aspects of the industry, but is always churning the same cherrypicked examples, pro and cons alike. Come on, Beyond Good & Evil, again? I can think of better examples. Many of us here can.

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DCT: snip
This!

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monkeydelarge: Why interrupt your Hello Kitty Online sessions to post such garbage? Your name you should be "yn dal i wneud cariad i ddefaid" instead of Dalswyn.
Im 'yn aros am y defaid i gael ei orffen gyda chi. .P
And I suppose that everything you post is solid gold?
Post edited June 05, 2015 by Dalswyn
Posted June 05, 2015
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LeonardoCornejo: I mostly ignored her until recently that she began to gain power, all her propaganda talks, her "Listen and believe thing", and her apearance on TV make her the next Jack Thompson (minus the honor) and we both know he was not ignored, he was proven wrong over and over again.
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Dalswyn: Thompson dug his own grave. Those who were susceptible to his arguments were not players, and would not have been, even without him. He was noisy, but mostly inconsenquential. The harm done to Dungeons & Dragons by claims of it being a satanist game weakening the willpower of young people is real, yet did not necessitate huge collective action. from gamers, who went on with gaming, happily.

Devs and specialized media took care of him.

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LeonardoCornejo: She owe the anti-Sarkessian crowd a huge dept for making her famous :)
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Dalswyn: Indeed, and it's not too late for reversing the process and leaving her rambling in her corner. She has a point on some aspects of the industry, but is always churning the same cherrypicked examples, pro and cons alike. Come on, Beyond Good & Evil, again? I can think of better examples. Many of us here can. It's not tha difficult to alter posts here and I have no moral compass so I will do it (This is an edit to prove a point)

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DCT: snip
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Dalswyn: This!

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monkeydelarge: Why interrupt your Hello Kitty Online sessions to post such garbage? Your name you should be "yn dal i wneud cariad i ddefaid" instead of Dalswyn.
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Dalswyn: Im 'yn aros am y defaid i gael ei orffen gyda chi. .P
And I suppose that everything you post is solid gold?
Hey, you iterally altered my quote, you put in my mouth words I never said. That is patethic, rude and insulting, not to mention unethical. I showed some respect toward you, but now I see you deserve no respect from me.
Post edited June 05, 2015 by LeonardoCornejo
Posted June 05, 2015
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LeonardoCornejo: Hey, you iterally altered my quote, you put in my mouth words I never said. That is patethic, rude and insulting, not to mention unethical. I showed some respect toward you, but now I see you deserve no respect from me.
No, chiquillo, I just copied the quote balise and forgot to change the number of the post (yes, it's Amok's, he posted it right after yours), and I did so because Gog's forum is not multi-quote friendly. I have now fixed it accordingly.

Responding to such a trivial mistake by saying "you deserve no respect from me" is so petty that it put an admittedly condescending smile on my face, and for this, I must thank you.
Posted June 05, 2015
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2015/06/05/hating-the-player
Posted June 05, 2015
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LeonardoCornejo: I just want to get something clarified, from someone who actually played the game. Is it true that the current build is unstable? Because if thst is true that could close the case for now. GOG rejects unstable builds unless the game is a best seller or something like that. Most unstable indie games never get released until they fix the issues.
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YaTEdiGo: The game is poorly optimized. But I didn't experienced any other issues.
I can barely run Amnesia, so its a no go for me anyways. That and I need color in my games.
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NWN_babayaga: Thank you very much and i´m much better. Physical training just relaxing in pure nature and VIDEO GAMES help me the most. I just wanted to say that because it´s important to let aggressions out without harming real people ;)
Strength training and aerobics for me.
Post edited June 05, 2015 by ScotchMonkey
Posted June 05, 2015
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NWN_babayaga: Thank you very much and i´m much better. Physical training just relaxing in pure nature and VIDEO GAMES help me the most. I just wanted to say that because it´s important to let aggressions out without harming real people ;)
You've obviously never taken an NES controller to the side of the head.
Posted June 05, 2015
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tinyE: You've obviously never taken an NES controller to the side of the head.
Zachary Levi, the guy who played the titular role in the TV series Chuck, had to get stitches for an injury sustained while playing a Wii.

What is it with Nintendo trying to kill off their customer base?
Posted June 05, 2015
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YaTEdiGo: Really? I am glad I didn't been the only one that imagined this, seriously I think the engine and the arts would fit something like this so well! And it would be also a much more interesting game.
I'm way more into turn based/tactical games than real time shooters, and I'm frankly quite disappointed at the lack of environment interaction in most of them. Got a sniper problem? Blow up half of the building. Or punch a wall in the back of enemy fort.

The art would work pretty well with any alien/postapoc/dystopian setting. Or, even stealth/covops. It will be interesting to see what/if they are planning something with the engine in the future.
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