Played those games... but they never game me that actual feeling of being the bad guy. Only thing negative I find in it is that it's repetitive... I can compare it to an old, old, horror movie, the plot is predictable but it still gives you that horror feeling and being the monster makes you feel weird... but you can't stop cause you took it as a challenge and you wanna finish the game xD

Anyway! GoG with it's decision reconciled me with Steam!
I'll probably buy when there will be on sale Empire Earth and some old titles(specially RTS ones, also w3 season pass) here but Steam is my home for gaming.
cheers everyone!

While I think the game itself is meh, the engine seems nice. Would love to see the Crusader games re-released using this engine.

Loved blowing up an opening in doors vs finding a key or switch in Crusader: No Remorse.

Play Spec Ops: The Line

Got it on Steam.

The pros: Fucking awesome destruction in this game, it's really thrilling watching walls and cover chip away, or explosives takes down a whole fucking house with bodies flying all over. The aesthetic and soundtrack create a cold and detached atmosphere, and the maps are pretty decently sized allowing you to explore and shoot/stab/blow up who and what you please. The cops are not pushovers and they're really fun to fight, and civilians will pick up guns sometimes and try to fight back. I also stumbled upon some gangsters doing a weapon trade or something and got into a fire fight with them. You have to think about how to approach most fights because you go down quickly.

Also, this game has some humor in it, the things the Antagonist says are hilariously bad, the TV screens show Anonymous, the final level's computer code made me laugh out loud. The metal head train driver... it's not taking itself that seriously. I don't think this game ever wanted to spread a message, and is that a bad thing now?

The cons: Civilians are basically your medkits, since you have to execute them to get health back. I don't like this system because its very easy to kill civilians instead of wounding them, and when you're in a firefight getting low on health it forces you to run over all these dead bodies just for that one you can execute. It just feels like a shoddy health system. Medkits or even regen health would have been better than this current system.

The aiming feels "gummy", they need to work on making it feel more fluid, its somewhat hard to aim and when you throw a grenade you have no idea where it will go, so its extremely easy to bounce a grenade on a wall and have it come back at your face.

The car controls are a bit meh but I can live with it. What I DON'T like is how WEAK cars are, within seconds the things blow up, and that's a fucking shame because there is so much joy in ramming a car THROUGH SOMEONE'S HOUSE. Also, if a driving car even touches you, you're dead.

Which brings me to my final major complaint, the respawn system. It sucks. It just feels like it punishes the player. You have a main objective, but you also have side objectives. If you complete these side objectives you get a respawn point. There's usually three on a map. After you use them up, if you die you have to start the whole level over again. It's garbage. I really hate it. I think a better system would have been to just autosave after each side objective was complete.

Other than that, there are some bugs and glitches they need to hammer out, and they need to better optimize their game, since I get below 30FPS usually, but the devs said they are working on that, as well as releasing free DLC if this sells well.

I haven't played it but I certainly hoped that. Based on your description it seems to be more or less a regular isometric shooter. Not that I had high expectations but one can hope. A little.

No, don't play it. It's hot garbage that tries to get by on shallow postmodern gimmickry.
Shame on you!

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No, I will not stop talking about how much I hate Spec Ops!

It's more of a statement about war, about what we think of war and of being the player, the hero. Pretty amazing.
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Don't you frown at me, I stand by my opinion!

The game doesn't even have a good gameplay in my opinon. The most time you are killing innocent people who aren't able to give any resistance. In other twinstick-shooter it is different. What a competition! If the game wouldn't have had such a scadalous theme, people wouldn't even look with the ass at it. The game only sells because of the scandal in the news. That's a simple marketing strategy for selling crap.

Did you play a different game? Because most of the time you are fighting police, SWAT and the National Guard...

Does anyone have informations about the dev team ?
If I remember well, they were accused of being neo-nazi, or at least nationalist, before the release date.
What about it now ? Is the game criticizing multi-culturalism or things like that ? Or was it totally unjustified ?

The game is not that bad at all, sure you are killing a shit ton of people but its not like that had any development or anything and you have no other option, so it does not really matter. The fact that you are also slaughtering so many makes it even more fine, Joseph Stalin put this pretty well "The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of millions is a statistic", hatred is not a big deal at all

He "liked" an organization on Facebook, end of story. The amount of lies about DC and Hatred is ridiculous. The real hatred campaign was directed at the game itself.

They come from Farm 51, which developed Painkiller HD and Necrovision. The Neo-Nazi allegations were falsified.