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Gnostic: No mention of Master Of Orion 3 or Ultima 9?
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Supremtin: just more reasons why people should stop defending cdpr and accept that they are a bunch of hypocrites
Why on earth would I give them shit over providing those titles?
They're like digital trainwrecks, it's great having them.

Hell, I'll talk shit about Fahrenheit all day long, but I still bought that one, along with almost all the other bad ones.
Still need to pick up Kingdom, Simon the Sorcerer 3D and Earthworm Jim 3D, though.
Think I'll get two of those during the promo.
Well, I think GOG's reaction to hatred is as follows.

"This is a shitstorm in the making. Let's just wait until it blows over and then we'll see."

Sensible enough attitude.
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Supremtin: just more reasons why people should stop defending cdpr and accept that they are a bunch of hypocrites
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CarrionCrow: Why on earth would I give them shit over providing those titles?
They're like digital trainwrecks, it's great having them.

Hell, I'll talk shit about Fahrenheit all day long, but I still bought that one, along with almost all the other bad ones.
Still need to pick up Kingdom, Simon the Sorcerer 3D and Earthworm Jim 3D, though.
Think I'll get two of those during the promo.
I've never played Fahrenheit, or even considered getting it, but I just wishlisted it.

This whole mess of a thread may be GOG's clever ploy to get me to purchase the handful of games here I don't already have.
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Fenixp: I don't necessarily blame the devs for writing the blogs and articles, I do blame the devs for knowing all too well what will happen when they do what they did with the trailer. There had been a lot of historical precedent for such moves, and I highly doubt devs did not know about, say, Postal and controversy it raised. And when the controversy did spark, they did nothing to calm it down, quite the contrary. As far as I'm concerned, you're calling Hatred devs complete idiots by pretending that they did not expect this reaction. I, on the other hand, believe they are intelligent people who did have an idea of what will happen. Of course magazines and blogs are going to be easily manipulated into this, as you said yourself, they want clickbait fuel and Hatred devs provided in spades. What I find sad is the fanatical dedication from people who don't actually have anything to gain from it.

Look, I have actually changed my opinion of them and now I think they seem like pretty cool guys, and that they genuinely did not want things to go this far, beyond a few outraged internet articles - nonetheless, fact is that things did go this far.
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Primo_Victoria: The main thing is that I don't even look at intentions, just at facts.

I can see why you think they played on the controversy aspect, because it's probably part of the process, but that could never work without a lot of support from blogs and outraged persons. The devs can do whatever they want, but they can't fabricate controversy, possible censorship, uproar and such.

I don't think the devs are idiots, they just want the game to sell no matter what, just like CDPR, EA or anyone else. They are not hypocrites. Blogs that claim that Hatred is filth and disgusting giving a lot of exposure to the game, that's hypocrisy.

Still looks like a fun game, with a lazy and underdeveloped premise, like a lot of games out there. I'd like to see what they could do with a decent writer.
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CarrionCrow: Why on earth would I give them shit over providing those titles?
They're like digital trainwrecks, it's great having them.

Hell, I'll talk shit about Fahrenheit all day long, but I still bought that one, along with almost all the other bad ones.
Still need to pick up Kingdom, Simon the Sorcerer 3D and Earthworm Jim 3D, though.
Think I'll get two of those during the promo.
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tinyE: I've never played Fahrenheit, or even considered getting it, but I just wishlisted it.

This whole mess of a thread may be GOG's clever ploy to get me to purchase the handful of games here I don't already have.
Fahrenheit is like David Cage shitting on your face. That's it.
If you don't have it, I'd suggest getting it just so you can feel the same pain when it all falls apart. ;)
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CarrionCrow: Why on earth would I give them shit over providing those titles?
They're like digital trainwrecks, it's great having them.

Hell, I'll talk shit about Fahrenheit all day long, but I still bought that one, along with almost all the other bad ones.
Still need to pick up Kingdom, Simon the Sorcerer 3D and Earthworm Jim 3D, though.
Think I'll get two of those during the promo.
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tinyE: I've never played Fahrenheit, or even considered getting it, but I just wishlisted it.

This whole mess of a thread may be GOG's clever ploy to get me to purchase the handful of games here I don't already have.
am pretty sure that's too complicated for them to have fabricated
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CarrionCrow: So true about GOG having bad games in their catalog.

Considering that, I want them to tell me why in the hell Fahrenheit is here.
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Supremtin: cause its just like witcher 3 right *nudge nudge wink wink*
To be fair, there's already games more gratuitous than hatred on GOG.
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Supremtin: cause its just like witcher 3 right *nudge nudge wink wink*
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Garrison72: To be fair, there's already games more gratuitous than hatred on GOG.
eh yeah am kinda confused about your post, mostly cause I was referring to the sex in the games lol
Post edited May 31, 2015 by Supremtin
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Primo_Victoria: ...
And I never claimed that devs raising controversy to publicize their game is a bad thing. On the contrary, it turned out to be a great idea, and an incredibly efficient marketing strategy. What I am saying is that:
a) The fact that devs chose this particular marketing strategy (or that blogs chose to be butthurt about it, doesn't really matter) doesn't make Hatred special in any way. It's just like any other game, and just like any other game, there can be X reasons for GOG to refuse it.

b) The fact that people insist on making it some sort of Ubergame is upsetting. It's one thing when devs create a controversial trailer and media decide to jump onto the controversy - sure, it's hypocritical, but in the end, it's also mutually beneficial. On the other hand, these fanatical propagators of Hatred who basically made it out to be the most important game in the universe before it even got released gain nothing from it, or at least nothing apparent. They're being actively destructive - jumping to conclusions, skipping facts, that sort of thing. I'd love to say they give Hatred devs more exposition at least, but that's not really true either, media took care of that already.
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Primo_Victoria: ...
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Fenixp: And I never claimed that devs raising controversy to publicize their game is a bad thing. On the contrary, it turned out to be a great idea, and an incredibly efficient marketing strategy. What I am saying is that:
a) The fact that devs chose this particular marketing strategy (or that blogs chose to be butthurt about it, doesn't really matter) doesn't make Hatred special in any way. It's just like any other game, and just like any other game, there can be X reasons for GOG to refuse it.

b) The fact that people insist on making it some sort of Ubergame is upsetting. It's one thing when devs create a controversial trailer and media decide to jump onto the controversy - sure, it's hypocritical, but in the end, it's also mutually beneficial. On the other hand, these fanatical propagators of Hatred who basically made it out to be the most important game in the universe before it even got released gain nothing from it, or at least nothing apparent. They're being actively destructive - jumping to conclusions, skipping facts, that sort of thing. I'd love to say they give Hatred devs more exposition at least, but that's not really true either, media took care of that already.
gained nothing from it? we got to put some hypocrites and sjws in their place
EDIT: and now the biggest one remains gog, but you guys don't see it cause apparently a company such as gog cant ever be hypocritical.
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Gnostic: No mention of Master Of Orion 3 or Ultima 9?
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Supremtin: just more reasons why people should stop defending cdpr and accept that they are a bunch of hypocrites
Hypocrite? okay point to me where it's stated that Hatred was rejected for it's controversial subject matter?
As far as I can tell no one knows why it was rejected outside of GOG themselves and probley the devs and neither side is elaborating on it. All I ever seen the Devs say on the subject was that they were told "it was good but they(GOG) just couldn't sell it"

That is vauge as hell and could mean many things, the asking price was too high, the game had issues, whatever.
Honestly I may have missed a few posts but I don't think I recall seeing anyone meantion that it was fine if GOG rejected it based on the game's premise. Just that GOG is free to reject stuff because it is their store and unlike Steam has become they are picky on what they approve and yes they do make silly decisions Cat Lady, Xenonauhts, Avernum: Escape from the pit all rejected granted they changed their minds and accepted them sure but they were still rejected and some for dumb reasons like being too high for a indy game.

Now I will agree that if they did reject Hatred for it's premise while selling Postal 1 which is the same damn thing just older(same as in your a guy going level to level on a shooting spree killing cops and civilians). It would be wrong but again there is no proof that they did that. Yet you sit there and get all raging keyboard warrior about it, calling them hypocrites and insulting anyone who disargees, like there is anything more then pure unfounded speculation that was the case.

You and others like you sit there and bitch about the Social Justice warrior crap and yet in the end you act no better then they do, you are the epitomy of being the diffrent side of the same coin because that level of irrational behaviour is the same crap you get from those who claim to be opposed to, making you no better then they are and so the only hypocrite based on what I have seen here is you. Because you seem to act like your better but your not, your as close minded, ingorant and blind to anything that casts doubts on your crazy notions just like those you condemn.
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tinyE: I've never played Fahrenheit, or even considered getting it, but I just wishlisted it.

This whole mess of a thread may be GOG's clever ploy to get me to purchase the handful of games here I don't already have.
And then Judas says: Keikaku doori.
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Fenixp: a) The fact that devs chose this particular marketing strategy (or that blogs chose to be butthurt about it, doesn't really matter) doesn't make Hatred special in any way. It's just like any other game, and just like any other game, there can be X reasons for GOG to refuse it.

b) The fact that people insist on making it some sort of Ubergame is upsetting.
a) The marketing strategy is very close to what the game is about. Not showing the violence and the trite speech would have been misrepresenting the game. It doesn't have to be special, it just is. Like anything else, they can take it of leave it. The reasons why GOG refused it can be many, but because the zealots wanted the game to be banned, it raises a question whether GOG agreed with them or not.

Zealotry and panic were thus counter-productive.

b) I believe the support for Hatred started when it was taken off Steam Greenlight. Again, the indication that the game would be banned, "censored" or otherwise made unavailable is what created this band of supporters of the game, who feel the right to make their own decisions about what is right for them.

Zealotry and panic were thus counter-productive once again.

"They're being actively destructive - jumping to conclusions, skipping facts, that sort of thing. "

About that, it looks like the few rabid supporters of Hatred are similar to the haters that were calling the devs neo-Nazis who praise ethnic cleansing in their game Hatred.
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Fenixp: a) The fact that devs chose this particular marketing strategy (or that blogs chose to be butthurt about it, doesn't really matter) doesn't make Hatred special in any way. It's just like any other game, and just like any other game, there can be X reasons for GOG to refuse it.

b) The fact that people insist on making it some sort of Ubergame is upsetting.
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Primo_Victoria: a) The marketing strategy is very close to what the game is about. Not showing the violence and the trite speech would have been misrepresenting the game. It doesn't have to be special, it just is. Like anything else, they can take it of leave it. The reasons why GOG refused it can be many, but because the zealots wanted the game to be banned, it raises a question whether GOG agreed with them or not.

Zealotry and panic were thus counter-productive.

b) I believe the support for Hatred started when it was taken off Steam Greenlight. Again, the indication that the game would be banned, "censored" or otherwise made unavailable is what created this band of supporters of the game, who feel the right to make their own decisions about what is right for them.

Zealotry and panic were thus counter-productive once again.

"They're being actively destructive - jumping to conclusions, skipping facts, that sort of thing. "

About that, it looks like the few rabid supporters of Hatred are similar to the haters that were calling the devs neo-Nazis who praise ethnic cleansing in their game Hatred.
nothing new there, most of the time anti-extremists can be as bad as the extremists they claim to oppose. Not all of them just some.
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j0ekerr: And then Judas says: Keikaku doori.
You're wrong. He says <span class="bold">Just according to Keikaku</span>.