=> This post includes some backstory that almost belongs to after game commentary. It is not complete, because even now it is better not to say things that were noticed at the time, but hopefully it is good enough to satisfy Micro's curiosity, and anyone else's.

@Micro

Voting for GR: On D1 taking to lunch an innocent seemed horrifying, probably most new players feel like that? Dunno, but that was what it felt like. So, clinging to something solid, the most solid thing seemed to be the fishing. Thus, the preferreed suspects were ConsulCaesar, Microfish.

After reflecting on the courtesy free pass for D1, changed the vote to the second most suspicious, Microfish.

After reading RWarehall's comments on Micro, read his explanations on the allegued fishing and decided that it was not so bad. By that time, had RW as one of the most townie players, with Flocke after him. Changed the voto from Micro to the third in the list: GR. Micro's claim made his position much stronger.

Had given GR just a 0,6 probability, a light number. At the time he was making lots of noise with little content, which seemed like something scum would do for high presence, hiding in plain sight. Comments on that had been made, previously, on the line of (paraphrasing now) not giving anyone a free pass, since it seemed that people who had played with GR before seemed to discount his posting line as idiosincratic and NAI, but new players could not count on that, so no free pass at the time. Somewhere was stated that, without prior knowledge of how others had played in the past, a new player was down to "logic and language analysis" to detect scum.

About yogsloth, had lots of reservations, and talked about them from the beginning: he was earning townie AND scum points (from the very beginning). Then, SPF was earning NONE. That, in D1. Both felt odd for both of them. But, not wanting to make mistakes, it seemed more solid to stay with ConsulCaesar's fishing and lurkiness. His lurkiness included not only sparse posting, but also what is more important: uncompromising and vacuous posts. He was called out for that by different players and he replied that "not everyone plays the same". "Of course", we could have thought, "scum play differently." ;-)

The plan at the end of D1 was to keep the vote on GR to see how he reacted, and have a better feeling on whether he eventually could be cleared for the time being (he was), get back to ConsulCaesar as soon as D2 started, barring new clues for better suspects, and keep a close watch on both yogsloth and SPF. Especially, the watch about yogsloth had been very explicitly declared since the beginning, if memory does not fail, one of the things that were written on him went like this: "he could be an asset, or the doom of Town". Personally, was leaning to the doom side, but did not want to make a blunder, and it was D1 and it was a new game and it was all learning on the job as we went.

Related posts:

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To be brief, on D2, yogsloth confirmed the suspicion in his chain of posts, in multiple ways. But the biggest change was with SPF. With a SINGLE post, he started a completely new line, and went on like that. What had happened? His LANGUAGE had changed abruptly. He had been detached, laid back, posting sparingly about mechanics and things of little consequence. But at the beginning of D2 the content and the intention of his posts was completely different, when he aggressivele pursuited Flocke, especially, without making any sense. The posts after that first one only went on in the same way. Later on D2, he started writing lots of nonsense. Like someone trying to hide in plain sight. But a small difference separated his posts from GR's. While GR was engaging with people, more or less nicely, SPF was present, but avoiding people (when he wrote nonsensically) and that was when he was not after Flocke or Micro without making any real case (neither did yogs). Plus, he was not only signalling his role, but also giving away role tells since D1, while SPF had been giving NOTHING and then, all of a sudden, a thorough, unqualified, pursuit of two guys that were pretty much cleared, without any real explanation, etc, plus nonsensical posts in a style not shown before.

Apparently a Night in the scumchat can do that to you?

And now for the juicy details: after the post quoted in #1047, after bringing to everyone's attention the oddness with SPF, after having some skirmish with yogsloth... after being somewhat horrified by how easilty people could taken to a lunch FOR NOTHING, and making a few dark jokes about that (apparently not all of them were noticed by everyone, certainly not by Flocke)... D2 finished, and it was clear what to do:

=> First, just in case a NK made impossible to speak on D3, comments were shared with the neighbour, Agent, on the situation. Cannot write a copy of the words because of the rules but, on post #6 of the neighbourhood chat, it was clearly stated that SPF had passed from a 0.5 to a 0.7 or 0.8, on pair or a bit before yogsloth, and how it was paramount that he spread the word and went after them if a NK got in the way. That was on Night 2. Then, on D3, quickly published a post where some thought had been put on, #918. Very hard to miss (did you miss it? and the vote at the end of the post?).

There had been effort put onto the post, because it was the time to stop yogs OR be defeated. There was some suspicion on yogs, but it was not universal, so additional support was required for success. But GR came to the rescue with strong support himself, after taking the (right) decision to check yogs, and even "leaving the closet" with his role for everyone to know, and yogs appeared to gracefully concede.

That is all for now. Hopefully it has been entertaining or, at least, informative.

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Just noticed new posts by ConsulCaesar and Joe. Will send this and read them afterwards. Since this post talks about the past, it does not require updating, probably.