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Posted March 05, 2016
Sony.
Apple.
Nvidia.
Post edited March 05, 2016 by ReynardFox
Posted March 05, 2016
Gigabyte, second rate motherboards at their best, third rate trash at their worst. Just avoid anything else they make, it is of epic trash quality. Their GPUs are of acceptable quality, but just about every major competitor makes better products, so screw'em.

Acer/PackardBell, they just vomit out cheaply made, badly built, traps for consumer who don't know better. Avoid at all costs (Acer and PackardBell are the same company, at least outside the US)

Thermaltake, makers of ridiculous peripherals and overpriced PSUs, mediocre fans and disastrous liquid-cooling systems. Well, I say makers, they just rebrand stuff. Just not good stuff.

SiliconPower, cheaply made and unreliable memory cards and thumbdrives. Stay away.

Nvidia, because damn they make crappy drivers and are always way overpriced and their Tegra chips are famously anemic.
Posted March 05, 2016
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Wishbone: You avoided AMD... Because you had had a problem with an Intel chip? Does not compute.
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chadjenofsky: Oh hell, what was I on last night? (I don't remember) Good to know at least someone reads my posts!

I believe it was the AMD Duron or whatever the cheapest POS they made back in the Win 98 days. Might have thought of Celeron because that was the Intel competition--in any case I avoided AMD for 5 years until someone told me there were different classes of AMD processors. This was all before I learned so much more about computer hardware. It was a family computer bought at a camera store that probably assembled them there.

Thanks for picking up on that!
Ah, I'm just glad the biggest mistake was in your post. It would have been awful if you'd purposely avoided the wrong company for years ;-)
Posted March 05, 2016
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MaximumBunny: So many AMD haters. xD

Their new cards are actually good these days. And they don't lock you out of driver updates for not signing up to a service. So you'd all either be updating once a year, account bound to shadowplay?, or using intel graphics. :o
AMD drivers are amazingly good, stable and reliable on Windows. It's nvidia drivers, every time, every release, that come with some buggy mess. From completely crashing Windows 10 to more specific issues, destroying GPUs and being generally a pest.

AMD Crimson drivers on the other hand, are just amazing. Qt based interface, starts up in less than 0.5 seconds, they're like everything the nvidia drivers are supposed to be, but sadly aren't.
Posted March 05, 2016
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fishbaits: Which mouse?
I have the G600 & never had a problem, had it ages.
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HereForTheBeer: M705. Not sure what it is about the buttons on that model, but I'm on my fourth one in about 3 years. That includes the one used on our "kitchen PC", which doesn't really see much use. Odd. Maybe I'm just having a string of rotten luck with the model.
Ah, not had one of those.
Perhaps there was something wrong with that model in general :(

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I am surprised there haven`t been more saying Nvidia, especially after the 3.5gig/.5gig memory debacle.
Also, that you now have to have a client up & running to do updates for drivers, unlike AMDs where you can grab them as & when.
Posted March 05, 2016
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fishbaits: Also, that you now have to have a client up & running to do updates for drivers, unlike AMDs where you can grab them as & when.
You can download and install NVidia drivers without the client
Posted March 05, 2016
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GR00T: Sony, for reasons already stated.

Kitchenaid - for a complete lack of support for the refrigerator we bought (which I ended up repairing myself) and for the piece of shit 'high end' dishwasher we bought that has needed both the left and right adjustable upper rack supports replaced, 3 of the 4 lower rack dual wheel assemblies replaced, and now the water pump is going. Dishwasher is only 2 years old. And no response from various support requests. Fixed all issues myself (except the water pump. That's next).

LG - Bought a washer/dryer combo and the washer started leaking. Found out it was a simple 10 dollar hose that eventually wears out. No big deal and a relatively easy fix. The issue? You can't buy the hose in Canada. Oh, it's stocked in various warehouses, but no one is allowed to sell it to the average Joe. No, you have to call an LG technician to install it, which will cost a minimum $150. Meanwhile it's easily purchased in the US at various outlets. Luckily, a friend has an address in the US so I ordered it to his address, he picked it up, and brought it to me so I installed it myself. Total cost, including exchange: 16 bucks. Fuck LG if they want to soak their Canadian customers like that.
Why would you even buy white electronics that isn't Whirlpool or Electrolux?
In the olden times UPO was king aswell
Posted March 05, 2016
Hsoftware/electronic companies I have on my personal blacklist:
Sony (because the Sony CyberShot point & shoot camera I bought once was garbage, because of the audio CD rootkit crap, because of their removal of OtherOS and because of their continued fight for stronger and crappier pro-big-media anti-consumer copyright laws. Oh and the way they made Ghostbusters: The Video Game PlayStation exclusive in Europe/Australia or whatever it was)
BluRay players from any manufacturer (because BluRay was made by Sony and because I cant easily rip stuff off Blu-Ray disks or watch disks imported from another region the way I can with DVDs)
Apple (because they are the only mobile device maker where you actually need to pay the company money to run code you wrote on a device you own, because of the whole walled garden thing in general and because of their super-aggressive patent stance and lawsuits against everything Android and stuff)
Lexmark (mostly because they tried to use the DMCA and the legal system to block 3rd party cartridges for their printers)
HP (because their printers suck, their printer ink is a rip-off and their computers are crap)
Microsoft (because of what they did to Nokia and their efforts to push the walled-garden idea as much as Apple is as well as their decision to stop supporting Windows 7 on my bought-long-before-the-announcement Skylake Core i5 for no real reason other than to force me to upgrade to Windows 10. Oh and the way they are pushing for computers to be locked down via Secure Boot so you cant run the software of your choice)
Norton/Symantec (many years ago I ran a copy of Norton Internet Security that actually made my internet stop working. That and their tactics of paying OEMs to load crippled time-limited versions of their anti-virus onto new PCs where end-users are then pestered/bullshitted into thinking they have to pay Symantec money if they want their PC to remain protected)
McAfee (because they are just as bad as Norton when it comes to the way they push their products through OEMs and also bundled with other software)
Oracle (because of their Java lawsuit against Google over Android and because the Java VM is full of security holes that they dont care about fixing. Oh and the way they force unwanted crapware down your throat when you install their Java stuff)
Activision Blizzard (various heavy handed legal tactics as well as what they did to Sierra, what they did to Ghostbusters: The Video Game and their continued support of very heavy annoying DRM)
Ubisoft (because of their support of very heavy annoying DRM)
Adobe (Flash has more security holes than just about any other piece of software & Acrobat Reader isn't much better. Also Adobe is moving towards a crappy "subscription only, cloud only" model for their software. Oh and like Oracle they bundle unwanted crap with their installers)
Atari (for their role in what happened to Ghostbusters: The Video Game as well as the crappy way they have treated the Rollercoaster Tycoon franchise. Back in the day I created modding tools for Rollercoaster Tycoon 3 and there was even a rumor going around that the people behind Rollercoaster Tycoon wanted to sue me over those tools for some reason)
TP-Link (for locking out 3rd party router firmware in response to new FCC rules even though the FCC explicitly said that full firmware lock-down is not required and despite there being other options TP-Link could have implemented instead)
The speaker division of Logitech (all the Logitech speakers I have owned were crap, nowadays I only buy Creative Labs speakers and they are much better. The Logitech K120 keyboard I have is great though, much better than the Microsoft keyboard it replaced)
Cisco Systems (for being in bed with the US government and not doing more to keep the NSA out of their gear)
Posted March 05, 2016
Ideally I would not support any company, hardware or otherwise, that gets away with not paying their proper taxes, companies like: Microsoft, Google, Apple, IBM, Cisco, HP, Dell, Oracle, Intel, GE, TI, Yahoo, Symantec, Autodesk, Nvidia, Visa and many, many others.

However this list eventually becomes so large, especially if looked at globally, that avoiding these companies becomes almost farcical.

Sources on this topic are very easy to find, here's just one one them.
Posted March 05, 2016
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dewtech: Why would you even buy white electronics that isn't Whirlpool or Electrolux?
In the olden times UPO was king aswell
Whirlpool owns Kitchenaid, my good man.
Posted March 05, 2016
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dewtech: Why would you even buy white electronics that isn't Whirlpool or Electrolux?
In the olden times UPO was king aswell
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GR00T: Whirlpool owns Kitchenaid, my good man.
Ehm, we don't have that trademark in here, so my bad for not googleing before. Well, if they own it then it's probably a so-called cheaper alternative brand, with shittier QA?? or what/why would they sell stuff from another brand name like that.
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Posted March 06, 2016
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dewtech: Ehm, we don't have that trademark in here, so my bad for not googleing before. Well, if they own it then it's probably a so-called cheaper alternative brand, with shittier QA?? or what/why would they sell stuff from another brand name like that.
Like many large corporations, they've bough other companies and now own them. Kitchenaid is one such. Others includeMaytag, Jenn-air, Inglis, Hotpoint, and more. All owned by parent company Whirlpool.

As for Kitchenaid, it's been widely considered an above average brand of appliances for years.
Posted March 06, 2016
I bought a Samsung fridge and am loving it, it works great and (per the official Australian Government mandated "Star ratings" uses less power than the other options I was considering at the time.

Goes well with my Samsung 32" LCD TV, my Samsung computer monitor and my Samsung SSD and I wouldn't hesitate to buy more Samsung gear in the future.
Posted March 06, 2016
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jonwil: I bought a Samsung fridge and am loving it, it works great and (per the official Australian Government mandated "Star ratings" uses less power than the other options I was considering at the time.

Goes well with my Samsung 32" LCD TV, my Samsung computer monitor and my Samsung SSD and I wouldn't hesitate to buy more Samsung gear in the future.
Your cheque just came
Posted March 06, 2016
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dewtech: Ehm, we don't have that trademark in here, so my bad for not googleing before. Well, if they own it then it's probably a so-called cheaper alternative brand, with shittier QA?? or what/why would they sell stuff from another brand name like that.
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GR00T: Like many large corporations, they've bough other companies and now own them. Kitchenaid is one such. Others includeMaytag, Jenn-air, Inglis, Hotpoint, and more. All owned by parent company Whirlpool.

As for Kitchenaid, it's been widely considered an above average brand of appliances for years.
Nice to know,so many names I don't recall ever seeing, even on Amazon.de
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