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adam_lang: GOG may honestly not care about Mac users' business.
That's fine.
But they should at least be up front about that fact.
I see MacOS/Linux support on the computer games market in the same vein, as I see GOG support on the computer games market.

- it's supported by some, but not by all.
- the support (for both) is executed to a far lesser extent, than for other OSs and stores.
- basically: in both cases, it's only done, to squeeze the last possible buck out of the market.

Btw: if developers/publishers release Mac versions of games onto GOG, well knowing, that they are not fully supported there...why only blame GOG for it?
Wouldn't it be the devs/publishers responsibility, first and foremost, to only release a running product on any given store?
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adam_lang: (And thank you to all the folks who are going to tell me to get a Windows machine, it's a terribly helpful suggestion and I've never thought of it before my goodness yes.)
You know...if you love playing computer games so much...maybe the investment in a halfway decent Windows machine would pay off in no time?
I mean, there's no doubt, that Windows is THE OS, when it comes to PC games.
And capable Windows machines cost far less than Macs.
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If people want to game on Windows, they buy a Windows PC.
If someone is a "hardcore PC gamer pro user blah blah", yes, a Windows PC is a must.

Not everyone is so dedicated to gaming, not everyone WANTS a Windows PC... There's more for the Mac than "oh, I spent a lot of money so people think I'm cool" mentality that some people have, and let's be honest, is from the last century. Apple has THE best laptops in town nowadays, deal with it (except for gaming, that is).

If someone with a Mac is going to be spending money on a "serious machine" for gaming, then he might as well buy a PS5 and get access to exclusives.

If someone doesn't care about online gaming, gaming is JUST A HOBBY, and doesn't want a dedicated gaming machine, then people will use what they have. Sometimes that happens to be a Mac.

I hate Intel. And bought my first Mac in 2021 because I couldn't believe the M1. And damn I am impressed. The M1 Air is basically the best laptop I ever had (I had a Thinkpad X230 before this). You people know how hard is to find a laptop with a DECENT screen, good keyboard, that doesn't sound like a can and with good battery life? When you found one you're basically on Macbook price territory. Let's not forget Windows laptops cut the performance in half when unplugged. No, I don't want a desktop PC. I don't NEED a desktop PC. And yes, a lot of Mac problems with gaming are Apple's fault... but they are trying to change that: you have tools to convert games to universal binaries (I mean fans are using them to run WINDOWS GAMES on MacOS, imagine what developers, the intended public for these tools, could do).

So anyone with a "get a Windows PC" mentality should actually grow up, understand different people like different things, and if not going to stay on topic, don't even post. OP is not complaining there are no games on Mac... is complaining GOG's support on Mac compared to other stores on the SAME GAME, and Galaxy's inconsistencies since it's an Intel app and can't be made to run a universal binary even when available.

GOG is about running old games on new computers (not WINDOWS COMPUTERS)... ok... Intel is old architecture for Apple. If you're supporting Mac, you have to support the new processors and NOT intel. Otherwise, your support is a lie.

Linux has it worse, yes... when it comes to Galaxy. Otherwise, Linux is debatably a better OS for gaming.
Post edited November 25, 2023 by jonridan
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adam_lang: I just can't justify the terrible experience of being a Mac GOG user any more.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: So why not buy a PC then? Seems like that's by far the best solution.

GOG's lack of support for Mac isn't a GOG problem; rather, it's a gaming-industry-wide problem.
OP probably spent so much money on that overpriced ARM based machine that he can't actually afford anything anymore. There's a lesson in there somewhere.
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jonridan: words
If you are willing to spend so much money on a work or hobby (other than gaming) laptop, why in the world would you want to install games on it? Wouldn't it be genuinely better just to get a different machine to play your titles on?
Post edited November 25, 2023 by Knightspace
This is why I am always grateful to the Enterprise sector, their 20+ year old bespoke apps that they refuse to update and to Microsoft for doing their best to support their #1 customer - the Enterprise sector. The consequence of all of this is that Windows has amazing backwards compatibility, which really benefits gaming.

On the other hand there's Apple. The only business customers they have are 3 hipsters and 5 creative types who insist on using Final Cut Pro instead of what Autodesk and Adobe offer on Windows, so Apple is free to start from scratch and break all compatibility every few years. Gaming suffers as a result. You can't expect everyone to recompile all of their software every time Apple comes up with a dumb idea.

New ≠ Better.
Post edited November 25, 2023 by SargonAelther
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jonridan: words
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Knightspace: If you are willing to spend so much money on a work or hobby (other than gaming) laptop, why in the world would you want to install games on it? Wouldn't it be genuinely better just to get a different machine to play your titles on?
On my particular case, I was looking for a new laptop with a good screen, good sound, good keyboard, good battery life and was willing to pay for premium because I wanted a laptop that I would enjoy using and not suffer through to use X software. The M1 tempted and had everything I wanted plus I got to jump ship before W11 came out. Gaming was not a concern, everything else was. If I were to get back into some serious gaming, I would:

A) Switch laptop (not add another one).
B) Get a console.

After using MacOS, there's no way I'm going back to Windows, so option A would only be feasible with Linux, and my daily use software is not available there. So as I said, different strokes for different folks. Claiming a Windows laptop is better is just wrong, it depends on the person. And even on my case, if I didn't hate Windows so much now, why would I want TWO laptops? That's function overlapping and I don't like that.
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jonridan: And even on my case, if I didn't hate Windows so much now, why would I want TWO laptops? That's function overlapping and I don't like that.
Because if one was good for gaming and the other wasn't, that's not "function overlapping". If buying a second device for gaming makes sense if it's a console, then it makes as much sense if it's a laptop, because the "function" is still "playing games" in either case.
Post edited November 25, 2023 by Breja
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jonridan: And even on my case, if I didn't hate Windows so much now, why would I want TWO laptops? That's function overlapping and I don't like that.
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Breja: Because if one was good for gaming and the other wasn't, that's not "unction overlapping". If buying a second device for gaming makes sense if it's a console, then it makes as much sense if it's a laptop, because the "function" is still "playing games" in either case.
I personally like to use every thing I have to it's fullest. If I'm gonna have two devices with screen and keyboard, I would need to have on both everything I can use there: browser, mailing, editing software, writing software, audio recording software... If I get two devices that are essentially the same and use one of them for just ONE thing, that to me is wasting money. I might as well simply "trade in" a device for the other. And as I said, no Windows for me thank you, and Linux simply doesn't work for me (though I did try it for a couple of years way back in 2013 and was impressed... the lack of the software I need is just a no go -- gaming on mac would be the same if only I were a more "hardcore gamer").

EDIT: I know there's a Linux distro for Apple Silicon... I'll give it a try for some specific games once it's more developed.
Post edited November 25, 2023 by jonridan
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Breja: Because if one was good for gaming and the other wasn't, that's not "unction overlapping". If buying a second device for gaming makes sense if it's a console, then it makes as much sense if it's a laptop, because the "function" is still "playing games" in either case.
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jonridan: I personally like to use every thing I have to it's fullest. If I'm gonna have two devices with screen and keyboard, I would need to have on both everything I can use there: browser, mailing, editing software, writing software, audio recording software... If I get two devices that are essentially the same and use one of them for just ONE thing, that to me is wasting money. I might as well simply "trade in" a device for the other. And as I said, no Windows for me thank you, and Linux simply doesn't work for me (though I did try it for a couple of years way back in 2013 and was impressed... the lack of the software I need is just a no go -- gaming on mac would be the same if only I were a more "hardcore gamer").

EDIT: I know there's a Linux distro for Apple Silicon... I'll give it a try for some specific games once it's more developed.
I HOPE by editing you don't mean video editing unless you have an OLED you use as a second screen otherwise you should be ashamed of yourself for not using a proper reference monitor for picture reproduction.
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For fuck's sake, stop whining. You purchased a Mactoy, what did you expect? A real computer? :-D
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KingofGnG: For fuck's sake, stop whining. You purchased a Mactoy, what did you expect? A real computer? :-D
Touché, mon cher ami. Tres droll.
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KingofGnG: For fuck's sake, stop whining. You purchased a Mactoy, what did you expect? A real computer? :-D
WHaT'S a coMPUteR?
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SargonAelther: WHaT'S a coMPUteR?
On the other hand, they used to actually be a company worth looking at.
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jonridan: EDIT: I know there's a Linux distro for Apple Silicon... I'll give it a try for some specific games once it's more developed.
Way ahead of you, I linked it/namedropped it at post 18.
Post edited November 25, 2023 by Darvond
OP, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but even Windows OS games get the silent treatment on GOG compared to Steam.

GOG has been overlooked for as long as it's been "Good *something* games" instead of "Good Old Games" which was around 2012.

Seriously dude. Maybe look up how many games us gog'ers have gotten removed from GOG because the developers refused to keep feature parity with Steam. You might be surprised.

And while I think I've been around quite a while, myself, I no longer am obligated to buy and rebuy on GOG unless it's a cdpr title or an older game that I don't have to worry about updates for.

They will never get a fair deal, dude. And that goes for all three of the platforms they supposedly support. Devs and publishers have been complaining about GOG for as long as they've been selling newer games.

The only notable studio I can think of that actually keeps feature parity is InXile, even before it got bought by MS, out of the games I've personally purchased. Everyone else delays the GOG patches by weeks to months.

tl;dr don't feel some sort of blind loyalty to GOG bro. It's a boutique shop for older games, like it's always been. Everything else has horrendous support no matter if you're on Windows, Linux, or MacOS.
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jonridan: I personally like to use every thing I have to it's fullest. If I'm gonna have two devices with screen and keyboard, I would need to have on both everything I can use there: browser, mailing, editing software, writing software, audio recording software... If I get two devices that are essentially the same and use one of them for just ONE thing, that to me is wasting money. I might as well simply "trade in" a device for the other. And as I said, no Windows for me thank you, and Linux simply doesn't work for me (though I did try it for a couple of years way back in 2013 and was impressed... the lack of the software I need is just a no go -- gaming on mac would be the same if only I were a more "hardcore gamer").

EDIT: I know there's a Linux distro for Apple Silicon... I'll give it a try for some specific games once it's more developed.
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Sarang: I HOPE by editing you don't mean video editing unless you have an OLED you use as a second screen otherwise you should be ashamed of yourself for not using a proper reference monitor for picture reproduction.
It seems you're talking about color correction (which is not the same as video editing... also, color grading). Different things. For that kind of work, yes, external monitors professionally calibrated are a must (there's an S there, in plural). And for audio, you need REAL speakers... but for actually checking on a "normal" consumer device, you need something good too. Though lots of indie films were made with nothing at that level: is not the tool, is how you use it (sometimes haha).

And as I said, there's people claiming OP is whining when all is doing is saying GOG is not really doing something they claim to do... NO ONE is whining about gaming on Mac being bad or non-existent.

Reading comprehension seems to be a "long lost art" nowadays...