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Well, since people are already recomending such movies as Starship Troopres and Equlibrium that are quite action-packed, I would recomend Dredd. Not Judge Dredd (1995) which is jus pretentious mess, but the 2012 movie.
Dredd is basically a cop movie with a few sci-fi elements, but it has some deep social commentary on morailty and crime&punishment procedure.
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kohlrak: Judging from the comments section of the video i watched, he only made minor changes to accomplish this goal. Overall, the government is still a meritocracy, and service caters to disabilities, so no one's screwed just because they're disabled. Contrary to fascism, speech is not censored, but promoted (misinterpretation is understandable, given the focus on state sponsored messages), militarism is voluntary (you only loose the right to vote, which is tied to proving you don't have special interests by requiring service), government is regulated by a constitution, leaders admit mistakes, and the list goes on. Society is largely free, as evidenced by the pilgrims getting slaughtered by the bugs (they chose to ignore reason and became victims of evolution).
Without going too much into what fascism actually is (it mainly promotes the idea of one unified nation and protecting it against external enemies, strong leadership etc.; it has nothing to do whether the disabled people etc. are catered for or not), to me it was quite clear the movie was making a parody of the militaristic utopian(?) world of the original book.

I saw the movie first (and I did feel it had that same feeling of making parody of the world where it was set in, similarly like e.g. Robocop from the same director), and later I read the book. Besides the character and plot changes (like some characters had changed their gender in the movie (Dizzie Flores?), there were no love triangles, the romance between the protagonist and The Girl was merely a small footnote in the book, the book didn't really follow the life and career of Carmen much at all IIRC etc.). I found it interesting how the book and movie managed to explain the same thing so differently, in such a subtle manner.

For instance the whole idea of having a right to vote and citizenship only if you have joined the army: in the movie it was explained and argued in a terse manner, and left you with the feeling "oh wow, that sounds so f-cked up, having to go to military and war just in order to vote?". I got the impression that's what the movie wanted you to think about the idea.

The book used much more time arguing why it is a good idea, and in some way even managed to do it, by explaining that only(?) by going to army and war, you are proving that you put the life and needs of others before your own well-being, hence you are more trustworthy to select leaders for the nation (=to vote). People who don't join the army do so for selfish reasons, hence they shouldn't be allowed to vote. Or something along those lines. A valid argument, even though there are big holes in it (like some can't join the army even if they wanted, or people can demonstrate their goodness in other ways than fighting in wars).

What I mostly remember of the book was that at times it was quite preachy, using lots of text to argue why some idea (like the one above) is such a good idea. It presented these e.g. as the discussions between the protagonist and his teacher, or what the protagonist was pondering by himself. The movie didn't.
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Deja Vu
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timppu: Without going too much into what fascism actually is (it mainly promotes the idea of one unified nation and protecting it against external enemies, strong leadership etc.; it has nothing to do whether the disabled people etc. are catered for or not), to me it was quite clear the movie was making a parody of the militaristic utopian(?) world of the original book.
As I've said in previous comment.
I second Primer, the best movie for watching at home ever.
(It's a time travel movie that requires going back and rewatching bits of it to understand.)

I also suggest Quatermass and the Pit and, just to dox myself completely, Sengoku Jieitai.
2001: A Space Odyssey and Blade Runner are two of my all-time favorite films, so yeah those, but those have been mentioned already.

I just recently watched Kathryn Bigelow's Strange Days. An imperfect movie. It gets too caught up in its conspiracy plot machinations at times and plot-twist villain reveal complete with long exposition as to what he did and why at the end felt so perfunctory for a film like it but for a film made in 1995, though it is very much a "90s film" (which doesn't matter much since it takes place in 1999, two days before the new millennium) in its stylings (including that Cobain 'do Ralph Fiennes is rocking through the whole film) people who proclaim it "ahead of its time" aren't wrong. Strong setting, strong concepts and impressive execution of those concepts. Overall a good watch, and though messy at times I'd also categorize as being a quite smart, forward-thinking film.

GOG is based in Poland, I don't know how many Poles or Poland-based GOG staff hang around here but, anyway, one film I HIGHLY recommend if you can find it (years ago when I still checked out DVDs from Netflix I saw this film via that service - I think it was one of the last DVDs I rented from them before switching completely to streaming) is from the late, great film-maker Andrzej Żuławski, most well-known for his 1981 masterpiece Possession, featuring Isabelle Adjani and a young Sam Neill in their most intense performances yet, a film that stares into the abyss and then proceeds to skull-f*** the abyss to the point of no return before it can stare back (wait, does that even make any sense or...well it doesn't matter the feeling of being skull-f***ed is a good summary of what the experience of viewing Possession for the first time is like, and I wouldn't have it ANY other way!), is On the Silver Globe, an ambitious, multi-generational epic about a planetary expedition that goes wrong, the survivors, barely clinging to what remnants of sanity they have left, continue to try to live, see their companions die as the ages pass as they record themselves to leave some record behind of their lives. The last survivor becomes an old man and an elder to a race of tribe-like humans (I cannot remember if these were the offspring of the surviving expedition?) and so much happens and so much escalates from there, including a new character, a cosmonaut sent to the planet to see what's become of it, to take over as completely unhinged protagonist (played by a well-know/popular Polish actor of the time, don't know who off the top of my head).

It was made in the mid-70s by Żuławski and Poland's most expensive cinematic venture at the time or something. But after completion it was deemed "subversive" by the state, seeing some element of the movie as being analogous to an overthrowing of the government or something so it was banned, attempts made to destroy all copies of the film and the director exiled form his native country. Oh and roughly around the same time was in the middle of a divorce, with a child, their son, involved. A lot of this provided fuel for what became the unrelenting knife to the throat that was Possession, whose setting is just west of the Berlin Wall. Anyway, it wasn't until the mid/late 80s that a mostly complete copy of On the Silver Globe was recovered and restored. Some scenes are missing, filled in by still photos with accompanying narration, but largely is miraculously intact. And an absolute must-see.
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One more mention: Phase IV aka "2001: An Ant Odysse" - if it was just the HAL segment, only HAL was an anomalous species of hyper-intelligent ants conquering every species of ants across its path, and the astronauts on the spaceship was, well, the entire human race. But first it focuses primarily on a couple of scientists and a young girl who survived an attack on her farm by the ants who killed off her family and horses and is holed up with them, under siege by ants building Monolith-like structures (to "observe" them?). As it progresses, more is learned about the ants and things gradually go from bad to worse, until the film's conclusion, which denotes what "Phase IV" was all along (at intervals in the film Phases I-III are displayed, to mark a point in this ant species' progress).

What I found out later was the movie had a way trippier ending that was excised for something more straightforward. Thankfully the original ending is perfectly intact and a video on YouTube recording it during a theatrical restoration/screening of the film to wide applause at the end can be found. The 2001 comparisons are far more apt with this, I must say, far superior ending (which I hope someday sees a home release including both versions with both endings) which I suppose can be, uh, vaguely compared to an "ant" version of the Jupiter sequence from 2001.

If this film sounds scoff-worthy because lul ants or something, just trust me and give it a watch. It's smarter, more interesting and "out there" (in a good way) than how it may sound. I read that this movie got the MST3K treatment which left me scratching my head. RiffTrax material, sure, with them anything is game, but MST? This is NOT MST3K-caliber material by a long shot. I'm sure plenty of funny jokes can be made at its expense, but seeing how the premise of MST3K is riffing on bad movies...well this is far from bad. It's great, actually.

Also, the only film to be directed by Saul Bass, most well-known for his iconic poster designs and intro sequences (the poster and opening credits to Vertigo - also the nightmare sequence in Vertigo too - were his design - he also did the original poster art for The Shining, the creepy yellow one, among many, MANY others, I mean - just look up "Saul Bass" on Goohugle if you want to know more about the man and the work he's done over the years).
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kohlrak: Response moved
Did the "Starship troopers" thread get deleted? Why??? Can't one talk about anything even slightly controversial here?
Now I've got a permanent pink dot for "forum replies" because I had unread replies in a deleted thread...this sucks.
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morolf: Did the "Starship troopers" thread get deleted? Why??? Can't one talk about anything even slightly controversial here?
Now I've got a permanent pink dot for "forum replies" because I had unread replies in a deleted thread...this sucks.
Welcome to GOG. You have the wrong politics, this certain crowd comes in, makes personal attacks and tries to keep the conversation at ad hominem level then calls in the air strike on how hateful teh topic is.
Not going having the time going through the whole thread yet but having seen a few TV serials already (strongly recommending The Expanse too) - I really can recommend Black Mirror - each episode independent of another, it's the modern way of Twilight Zone, the Black Mirror being our Smartphones and Smart TVs, and it's actually scary how some ideas of the series have already been picked up by reality, like the social score system in China (Episode Nosedive) and artificial bees to counter the insect genocide ("Hated in the Nation", although it's really about Twitter...)
No one recommended Back to the Future Trilogy ?

Really?
I don't think anyone has suggested Serenity yet.

Technically it's a film wrapup of the show Firefly, so I have to say both are worth it. You don't need to watch the show to enjoy the film, though.

It's fairly hard scifi. No aliens. No rayguns or teleporters. Just humans messing up other humans and regular humans trying to survive in a universe where a "benevolent" dictatorship basically rules most of the universe. It follows the crew of the Serenity: two army buddies who were on the losing side of an attempt to revolt from the dictatorship, a gun nut with questionable morals, a cute little engineer, and their manchild pilot. Oh, and the ship's doctor is on the run as he rescued his little sister from a governmental research program that scrambled her brain. There also is a "companion" who travels on the ship, but she's not technically crew. That's all you need to know to get started, the rest is just intelligent commentary on what it means to be human and how humanity reflects differently in all of us. That's how I see it anyway.
^ The TV show Firefly was different and fun to watch (only 14 episodes) and the movie Serenity gave the TV series an ending.
Firefly / Serenity was a fav or ours, wife enjoyed it as much as myself which is unusual.

Dark Matter kinda, sorta gave us the same feeling . . a tight knit crew battling the verse only much more brutally. The 3rd season lost some of the glow of S1 and S2 but the final episode of S3 left so many possible new directions that I thought it would be renewed for sure.. Sorry to hear it was canceled but . . seems like the norm with sci-fi TV series.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4159076/