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Posted April 03, 2015
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PaterAlf: Because it's more complicated now to get the whole set for the best price. Yeah, just a cent and just some more clicks, but I'm a cheap, lazy bastard. :P
I know, you found some 1-cent cookies, right? Admit it.
Posted April 03, 2015
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Grargar: I know, you found some 1-cent cookies, right? Admit it.
Nah, I've found some free ones. Please don't cry when you look for them in your hiding place the next time.
Posted April 03, 2015
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MaGo72: A sad day.
Indeed, but as the saying goes, 'never trust a nazi':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvjzg7yiOOQ

https://gifrun.blob.core.windows.net/images/b44a1c28-eef9-4b8a-aae7-28c06384aa6f.gif

Thanks a lot for all your hard work keeping the community fully up to speed mrkgnao (+1 till kingdom come).
Post edited April 09, 2015 by Lemon_Curry
Posted April 04, 2015
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Grargar: Other games that haven't received a discount for a long time are Paper Sorcerer for a bit over 10 months (it only had the 20% launch discount) and Shovel Knight for a bit over 9 months.
Im actually wondering why Shovel Knight hasnt had a discount as it seemingly has been on sale on the evil empire store a number of times already if i recall correctly?
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Impaler26: I'll celebrate those latest "good" news with buying less games from GOG.

With all those negative changes GOG introduced since early 2014 it has really become just another store among many.
And i'm afraid Galaxy will only make things worse - i doubt that i will still buy games here in a year...
Yeah but having said that, in your case you've already bought most of the games already on the Evil Empire store..
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Posted April 04, 2015
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Impaler26: I'll celebrate those latest "good" news with buying less games from GOG.

With all those negative changes GOG introduced since early 2014 it has really become just another store among many.
And i'm afraid Galaxy will only make things worse - i doubt that i will still buy games here in a year...
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Niggles: Yeah but having said that, in your case you've already bought most of the games already on the Evil Empire store..
Perhaps. But he's not alone in his feelings.
I have not bought a single game outside GOG in the last 5 years, and now I too am slowly beginning to wind down my purchases here.
Sad times.
Posted April 04, 2015
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Niggles: Yeah but having said that, in your case you've already bought most of the games already on the Evil Empire store..
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mrkgnao: Perhaps. But he's not alone in his feelings.
I have not bought a single game outside GOG in the last 5 years, and now I too am slowly beginning to wind down my purchases here.
Sad times.
its maybe cynical, but do you think gog will introduce its next good news (drm-titles) with polish language?
Posted April 04, 2015
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mrkgnao: Perhaps. But he's not alone in his feelings.
I have not bought a single game outside GOG in the last 5 years, and now I too am slowly beginning to wind down my purchases here.
Sad times.
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apehater: its maybe cynical, but do you think gog will introduce its next good news (drm-titles) with polish language?
I think there's still place for a lot of potential good news before DRM titles: more regional banning, regional gifting, micro-transactions, early access, trading cards, gogworks, and of course a client [note: I know a lot of people see some (all?) of these as really good news. I am glad for them.]

Truth be told, unlike many others, the primary reason I joined GOG was not DRM-free. The major reasons were (in no particular order):

- The "good" in "Good Old Games". This is the boutique approach. I liked the feeling that someone was selective in accepting games into the catalogue. Obviously, not all games would fit my taste, but I was confident that the catalogue would not fill up with hundreds of half-baked games. In many respects, I believe GOG is still OK here. Although I am a great fan of old games, I never minded the addition of new titles, some of whom are really marvellous (e.g. Blackguards).

- Complete editions. No DLC nonsense. No season passes. This is completely gone and I still deplore it. Fun fact: the most expensive game I ever bought on GOG is "Sword of the Stars: The Pit" (at $18.5), because of all the DLC's (and I expect more shall come).

- No need for a client or an online connection in order to play games. Still waiting to see how this evolves, but it doesn't look good. I never bought the "optional" sales pitch. For Galaxy to be really optional, GOG needs to invest the same amount of programming (etc.) resources in the website as it would if Galaxy did not exist, which is utter nonsense from a business POV.

- Principles of fairness, such as no regional pricing, no regional banning. Gone. Regional banning, especially the fact that some game pages are not visible from some countries (even more damning to me than not being able to buy the games), is the straw the broke my camel's back.

- I would have also liked a place that felt like a quality website, but that was never GOG. I still can't believe how terrible the forum search engine is. It takes great skill to create something so bad.

- Although that was not a factor until a couple of years ago, the main reason I remain is, of course, the community.

The reason I care less about DRM is because I never suffered from it. Before joining GOG, I hadn't played PC games since the early 1990's. Back then the DRM was in the form of "pick a word from the manual" or "use a code wheel", which I didn't mind at all! I still don't mind if an application requires some form of verification (e.g. CD check) in order to install it. I don't have such games (because I only buy on GOG), but I have one or two such apps (e.g. OED), which I need to dig out every time I move to a new computer. I can live with it.

But back to your cynical question, I believe Polish will be available here before DRM titles, but I may be wrong.
Post edited April 04, 2015 by mrkgnao
Posted April 04, 2015
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mrkgnao: I have not bought a single game outside GOG in the last 5 years, and now I too am slowly beginning to wind down my purchases here.
Sad times.
Yeah, I want to buy installers for games I know I'll want and store them safely before things go south here with the 'optional' client. It's only a matter of time before things will get altogether too restrictive at GOG. I'm not comfortable with regional locks because my lifestyle is globally nomadic, the regional pricing is objectionable and in the wake of achievement, tracking of playtime, etc. in the new client, DRM is sure to follow eventually. Of course I'll no longer be here when that happens; I'm too creeped out by the data gathering Galaxy will do, however personally non-identifiable that may be. It's not for me, so I need to get the full installers and be on my way when the time comes.
Posted April 04, 2015
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mrkgnao:
+1 to... nearly all of of that. Bar the not minding some DRM part. I definitely have a major issue with the very principle of DRM, regardless of the form it takes. Now I may deal with one-time checks, preferably off-line (enter key, not the old manual / wheel things, no way), possibly at most also with an one-time on-line verification of that key, as long as it doesn't require an account or any other information, though even that is a major problem if the server poofs at some point, but I'd much rather not and will hold it against the game and developers if I have to. Needing to have the disk in the drive while playing is a chore, and may cause problems in time. Installing any sort of third party application, be it something specifically as DRM, a mere downloader or whatever else, or requiring an account to install and/or play and/or update (as opposed to needing it only to buy and download), or sending personal information while doing that, that's definitely a dealbreaker.

As for the rest, in my case it was their main promise, "DRM-free, flat prices, customer love" and the fact that they really fought against industry practices and seemed to do their damnedest to change something in the right direction. No order, no ranking, all of that or not worth it.
I did also like the idea of only older games (I don't play new stuff anyway) and the initial price cap of $9.99, but with the sales going on I can make sure I only get stuff for less than that anyway. And the complete editions only approach was also nice, as I don't care to get games without all content I may be interested in included, or when additional content may still appear (one of the reasons why I wait years before playing, for that matter).
Also, defined their otherwise very abstract "customer love" principle as largely being nice, good customer support, trying to solve issues themselves, at times going above and beyond the call of duty. Didn't much care for the "extra goodies", just give me all available content, the manual (for all games please!) and maybe a guide / reference card if relevant, don't usually bother with anything else anyway.

Also, do feel that they slackened on the boutique approach after allowing newer games, especially the indies being quite hit and miss. Now if they're true indies, I don't much mind that, offering a platform for the "little guys", but when some more established names get involved, it is a bit troubling. Not a serious issue, better to have something not needed than not to have something needed, but it is a matter of where the resources go.
Post edited April 04, 2015 by Cavalary
Posted April 04, 2015
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mrkgnao: (.........)
+1 on that

I came here mostly cause good old games (not gog.com) was the only place that offered some of the old games I wanted to be able to play again (TA, Castles, etc.) and it also gave me hope that more of them would come here in time (C&C mostly) which frankly is still happening but not as much as before. Boutique approach wasn't really a thing that appealled to me since that meant mostly that most games I play would never come here. Especially RTS games which are supposedly a niche market for gog as stated by G-Doc a few months before.

Second thing that appealed to me was the fair pricing policy since it quaranteed users that they will be handled the same as any other buyer in their store without any preferential treatment. Unfortunately that thing is now burried three times over and preferential treatment is now common. Regional locking never affected me since we have no government facility/law setup for age restrictions or censorship of games (to be fair even movies here have no age restriction) in my country.

Third thing was that there was no need for the client and with the client connected software that collects personal data on user pcs like Steam and others do (Galaxy won't be an acception to that regardless of what gog says). No need for clients to install games and no forced updates through the installer. This is the part of gog's drm-free style that I like no forced clients for installation of games and as such standalone game installers that are not bound to any other software and can be stored and used for install indefinetly..

Fourth thing was definitely drm-free as an addition to the above. The same as you said I was never affected by negative drm effects. Most games I bought only used an old style cd-key without any need for online activation. There were a couple of exceptions of course (C&C Red Alert 3 online activation) but they were never really problematic.

Community definitely is the thing that has kept me here after all the gog's "Good News" announcements.
Post edited April 04, 2015 by Matruchus
Posted April 04, 2015
Yeah, all these reasons are good ones.

DRM-free indeed was the biggest bonus for me, since I've been burnt bad by Steam and other services before it.
Fairness was the second biggest issue and that one is basically gone now.

The community and my huge collection of games, paired with hope, keep me here.
But I'm less and less interested and haven't bought a game for quite some time.
Posted April 04, 2015
I wonder how many of you non EU customers complained when Valve decided to use the $1 = 1€ crap on Steam .
Posted April 04, 2015
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When I saw the flags of the 12 non-Baltic ex-Soviet republics on GOG's "Reclaim Your Games" page (see attached image), which rightfully included Georgia (the rightmost flag), I half thought to myself that GOG might finally have realised that there indeed were twelve such republics and not eleven, and modify their regional pricing accordingly.

But no. Eleven non-Baltic republics (RU/UA/UZ) now "enjoy" extremely reduced prices for 900+ titles, but Georgia continues to pay the same prices as most of the world (CN). Still baffled by it.

Really, Georgia is a lovely country. Great sights, great sites, great food, great people. [Been there in 2009].

Come on, GOG. If you decide to be unfair, at least be fairly unfair, not unfairly unfair.
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Posted April 04, 2015
I wonder whether we'll start to see giveaway threads with entry requirements like 'min. 10 rep, not living in a country that already gets a massively lower price'.
Posted April 04, 2015
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ne_zavarj: I wonder how many of you non EU customers complained when Valve decided to use the $1 = 1€ crap on Steam .
I didn't, and why should I?
I have never bought a single thing on Steam.
The only reason I am complaining here is because I care.
I have invested a lot of time, money and effort here, and I hate to see it go to waste.
Post edited April 04, 2015 by mrkgnao
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