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Madshaker: years back when command and conquer 3 came out it was always on cloud saves that laged and crashed the game just like it does this day now 2017,, puting full time connection for drm is and always will cause users headacres our isps trottle us limit bandwidth ect games that relie on cloud lag bad etc
No, C&C 3 didn't had cloud save when it was released, heck it didn't had online activation, wasn't a Steam game and used a basic offline CD-Check.

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Madshaker: anyway the issue here is glaxy client dont work on windows xp since gog hates us so why ruin games for us who use it and want to play the xp game its a frigging xp game.....
Then change a single DLL and have the game work on XP; but don't expect Gog to support or care about an OS they announced no longer supporting years ago.
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Magnitus: People obsess about changes in the GUI (which have not been revolutionary btw), because there is nothing else to talk about.

To be fair, it's not just Windows. The most exciting thing about newer versions of Ubuntu for me (and you could substitute any Linux distro in that statement) are what the more cutting-edge system software I use (containers and the like) might be able to do achieve with the new kernel features and greater hardware compatibility (it's more flagrant in Linux, because hardware folks cater to it less out of the box so newer more mature drivers will make a big difference there).

However, most of that stuff is nothing to get excited about for the average user. Windows makes a big deal of out of (a lot more than Ubuntu), because it's big money for them and they got to convince people to shell out the cash.

The most exciting innovations at this point happen at the application (and occasionally system software) level. The glory days of OSes have waned. They may yet come out with something truly exciting, but imho, they haven't done so for the past 10-20 years. It's mostly been about refining the existing formulas and that yields ever diminishing returns over time.
Saying that nothing interesting happens on OS-level is a gross misconception. Probably explained by the fact that 99% of the users never directly interact with the kernel(aka "the OS").
But guess who makes neat stuff like containers possible ? The system software just uses the virtualisation support that was implemented at OS-level. And maybe the the average user won't care about containers. But stuff like flatpak will likely bring a "cool new thing" for him, and that uses the same features under the hood.

Same way things like GPU-accelerated video decoding are only possible because it is implemented at OS-level + providing a nice interface to make it usable for user application. Efficient and fluid video playback on youtube is not a feature brought to you by your browser :p

Or just think of the whole area of energy management / energy efficiency. Dynamically scaling CPU/GPU frequency, switching off unused hardware parts, etc.All that stuff started pouring into OS design/programming like maybe 10-15(?) years ago and brought a fundamental change compared to how things were done back in the early days.
Without this work happening in the OS, mobile computing as we are used to it today would have been impossible.

If people talk only about visually changes that is often simply due to ignorance or lack of interest.
I mean, let's be honest, for the majority of users the inner workings of a computer is like magic.
All that matters is the stuff that you see on the screen.
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DukeNukemForever: The last posts are really interesting reads, thanks for this. Especially that one core rules it all is an interesting topic. While on desktop intels x86-architecture is the dominant architecture for the last 40 years, it seems that we are close to a big change here. For some years now there were rumors that Apple maybe wants to merge iOS and macOS and will abandon the x86-architecture. But more important for gamers is that Microsoft is one step ahead here, as they are at the moment really pushing the ARM-architecture for the server but also on the desktop market. For the desktop they are working on emulating the x86-architecture on ARM. There are good chances that in the next few years the dominance of the the x86-architecture will end and emulation will be the way to go also for windows users.
Microsoft truly took Apple and Google on the bed. Microsoft's Continuum is already a thing and is positioned to become more powerful every year. Right now very few devices supports it, but with cloud services (Office 365, etc) and virtualized desktop environments (VDI, RDS, etc) on the rise we stand on the eve of a major shift away from regular laptops for most business users, and over to phones (hybrid devices) that is capable of serving the same purpose when docked into a station on a desk. The future business employee will always carry their workstation, files and customized applications with them wherever they carry their work phone.

Meanwhile Apple have made no clear statement on the matter and seems to go from not caring about macOS at all to caring a bit about it. Similarly, Google haven't made any clear statements regarding Andromeda, or at least not clear enough to kill the ongoing rumors regarding it being intended to merge Chrome OS and Android into one ecosystem.

It'll probably be at least half a decade (or even more) before we see Windows Continuum to start gain traction amongst personal consumers but at that point it will most likely have a heavy push behind it from the business sector. After all, IT departments around the world loves Continuum since it's still Windows at its core which will allow them to utilize well-established features and functionality and decades of knowledge and experience with Microsoft's ecosystem.
Post edited June 13, 2017 by Aemony
Do you have a list of games affected by galaxy.dll problem?
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DrakoPensulo: Do you have a list of games affected by galaxy.dll problem?
Right now it only seems to be Fallout: New Vegas, but any new title on GOG that comes with Galaxy integration will most likely be effected. It's also possible that if GOG starts patching old games with the new features that they as well will be affected, though in that case you can simply downgrade or disable auto-updates for those titles and you'll be able to play them on XP still.

So really, only completely new titles are "seriously" affected.
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DrakoPensulo: Do you have a list of games affected by galaxy.dll problem?
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Aemony: Right now it only seems to be Fallout: New Vegas, but any new title on GOG that comes with Galaxy integration will most likely be effected. It's also possible that if GOG starts patching old games with the new features that they as well will be affected, though in that case you can simply downgrade or disable auto-updates for those titles and you'll be able to play them on XP still.

So really, only completely new titles are "seriously" affected.
I doubt it's even that. It's not to do with Galaxy integration, tonnes of games have that and there are no reports of broken compatibility, it's the fact the Galaxy integration replaces Steamworks.

To my knowledge F: NV is the first Steamworks only game we've had here. It relied on that steam.dll to run, and in the Gog version it has been replaced with a galaxy.dll.

For whatever reason the steam.dll still works on XP (and the game still runs sans Steam with it in place) while the Galaxy one doesn't (as Galaxy doesn't support XP anyway).

So I'd imagine the only games effected are those that previously were Steam only and have Steam features. Any old games released before the advent of Steam should be fine, and any newer games may or may not work depending on how reliant on Galaxy functions they are (but any brand new game isn't going to be guaranteed to work on XP anyway).
If I had access to the galaxy.dl file I could try to prepare a patch so that it works under XP.
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I am now convinced a lot of the hardcore, diehard XP only users see themselves as some sort of brave, heroic rebels, fighting aganst the Tyranny of THE MAN. They have seen "The Matrix" once to often. and think they are Neo.
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ToasterBox: Why People insist so much on continuing to use Windows XP? Its probably full of security loop holes and is very outdated by today standards. Your "purists" could at least upgrade to Windows 7 if you dont want to get the latest Windows version.

Or if your problem is with your paranoia of being suspicious that Microsft increased their "surveillance capabilities" to spy on you. You can install Linux distributions like Deepin OS, Linux Mint or Ubuntu. Now a days you can run with Wine almost all games that were released 2 years ago and below.

Anyways guys stop using Windows XP. Your guys sound like my grandmother, who was raised in the country instead of a big city. She insists on washing her clothes using her own hands instead of a washing machine.A few years ago She moved to the big city to stay closer to her grandkids and my parents. Although we already gave her a washing machine years ago she never uses it. I guess we can say she is as hard headed as the guys in this forum who refuse to stop using Windows XP . Like your guys She insists on keeping traditions that are not necessary and usually are time consuming and way less efficient.

I think its ok to keep your traditions and dont follow every trend. It shows that you are not submissive nor easily brainwashed by the mainstream culture. However I do think its wrong and pretty dumb to keep habits, that are way more time consuming and dangerous, when there are easier ways to do things.

Edit: Fixed some spelling/grammar mistakes
I can see the purpose of remaining traditional about the essentials and always keeping in mind a backup plan to get through a case of no electricity for a period of time. Although your right about stuff with software and computers, they're not essential to living, so why be so rooted and defiant to changes in it? GOG is about distributing old games in installers that run on current and relatively current machines, why should they cater to an old OS? If people are so stubborn about what GOG is doing so much, why not just torrent a copy of said game to run natively on an OS?
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dudalb: I am now convinced a lot of the hardcore, diehard XP only users see themselves as some sort of brave, heroic rebels, fighting aganst the Tyranny of THE MAN. They have seen "The Matrix" once to often. and think they are Neo.
Some people just do not want to spend money on a new computer while the old one is still working fine. What is bad about that?
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DrakoPensulo: Some people just do not want to spend money on a new computer while the old one is still working fine. What is bad about that?
Nothing. But if your old rig can't run one of the newer OSes, it's also not realistic to expect to be catered to when software has moved on from an OS that was retired and is no longer supported.
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dudalb: I am now convinced a lot of the hardcore, diehard XP only users see themselves as some sort of brave, heroic rebels, fighting aganst the Tyranny of THE MAN. They have seen "The Matrix" once to often. and think they are Neo.
This is some seriously stupid stupidity, because there are no "XP only users" on this website.

Plenty of rustled jimmies, tho. lol
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DrakoPensulo: Some people just do not want to spend money on a new computer while the old one is still working fine. What is bad about that?
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GR00T: Nothing. But if your old rig can't run one of the newer OSes, it's also not realistic to expect to be catered to when software has moved on from an OS that was retired and is no longer supported.
But, if a game run on XP in the past, it should run on XP nowadays as well.
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DrakoPensulo: Some people just do not want to spend money on a new computer while the old one is still working fine. What is bad about that?
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GR00T: Nothing. But if your old rig can't run one of the newer OSes, it's also not realistic to expect to be catered to when software has moved on from an OS that was retired and is no longer supported.
Every single one of them IS running a newer OS.
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Cue for you to go off about how it isn't the "right" one, I suppose. o.O
Post edited June 14, 2017 by richlind33
Ok, I read several posts on gog forums and it seems to me that if I had access to Galaxy.dll and GalaxyWrp.dll files I should be able to prepare a patch so that they are compatibile wit XP. Now, my question is: Is Fallout 3 the only game which contains these files or there are also others?