My dad built a fucking electrified fence around his tomato bushes.

Fort Knox would envy his setup.

That explains why I've never seen one over here! :-)

Seeing this thread and the discussion therein, I'm just here to give constructive criticisms on the gog moderation staff. Since I'm transparent I want to make it clear that I'm posting this as they're probably watching this thread already and also if perhaps other users are interested in this idea as well. I know that several others already wrote similar stuff but I just want to see what everyone thinks about it.

I do feel that it would be a good idea to divide the main discussion forum into sub-categories. Such as: GOG releated news (a new game came out!); Gaming related stuff (what game have you played?); Off-Topic (what book have you read?); Politics related stuff (where this thread belongs to).

This way, the moderation team can set up rules far easier and have less trouble checking posts, as every board has rules dedicated to it instead of just one big board where basically anything can go and where things can become a bit more chaotic. Threads can be easily put in another board if they don't belong or can deleted way quicker if they violate a certain rule and things don't go down as fast.

I know I'm derailing this thread even further but its already derailed like several times already so whatever!

Sounds good....now go buy yourself some games before the sale ends. :D

What about Ecuador? o.0

1. Maybe that would be a GOOD idea(a general for gaming stuff/technical stuff and one for controversial/non-gaming). BTW what makes you think it's political? I am curious to hear why you find it as such(and why others do as well). Is it because of the OP article? Or something else?

2. Sounds good

3. No problem....one offtopic post is fine from newcomers to the thread. :)

The general notion that a "good news thread" must exist is inherently a political statement.

The broadness you reference should be a compelling reason to *not* exclude discussion on that basis.

That's why I don't....there are some here(who have even posted in my threads here for many posts even when I offered them other means to take the discussion elsewhere) who seem to think everything "political" is verboten on GOG and that because I do it/they choose not to/don't like it on GOG(because they believe it goes against the rules or they just dislike such topics) that I should be "punished" for it like some sort of scapegoat.

They also seem to not get(or want to) that STAFF are DEFINITELY watching these threads and haven't warned me or locked them. This means either A:(more likely) that none of it goes against the rules and people here are wrong, or B:(least likely) that all staff are in on it and allowing it.

But some here will continue thinking the worst/least likely(that some sort of conspiracy exists between me and staff and that I am going against the rules on purpose for laughs[when i'm not]) because they have their minds set on the matter and cannot admit they are wrong.

Watch how quickly they change their tune when the tables are turned -- and they probably won't even notice. Almost a perfect lack of self-awareness.

If I started calling out everything others posted that is "political" as political they'd no doubt start their heads a spinning.

Rule for me and not for thee is the game here for some, I guess.

(Some here also claim to dislike politics yet post such[gov't related] in my threads to derail/get them locked and by doing so break the rules they claim to want to see upheld)

Do we have a wishlist for Stick Of Truth?

Sorry for the late response, was playing a few games :)!

Thats just natural, every culture is based around its history and its applied policies. Everything must be political, as it affects your culture, even if the intent is non-political, like taking your dog outside for a walk. However this doesn't mean "Should we be able to take a piss outside?" must be valued with the same scrutiny as "should we pay for clean air to breath?". A lot of people can't seperate between these two scales logically, resulting in an absolute shitfest of a discussion to have.

I see it like this. I personally feel that politics should be allowed on GOG, though topics should be seperated as I wrote. The problem, and this is pretty obvious, is that there are a lot of people who don't understand the complexities of political discussions in the first place, often boiling down into a "us vs them" tribalistic way of thinking. I think its primarily because of this that GOG might become more strict into enforcing their rules.

People should see it this way. In terms of political sciences, if we simplify things to the extreme, the result of political practise is always the creation of policies, its the sole reason politics exist in the first place even ten thousand years before democracy existed. In the more modern times since Aristotle, policies always should stem from both discussion and consensus, which is why politicians, that the people have voted, vote for all kinds of stuff. However the problem is that more and more rhetoric replaced dialectic princples, which results in a lot of dumbness online. As politicans are also just human being, you see that people are pretty quick and prone to stick to certain flawed principles. These negative principles only manifest further, making compromise and good policies almost impossible nowadays. One of those possible outcomes are as you already said "Rules for me, but not for thee". So what does it have to do with GOG and this board?

What is important to remind yourself is that realizing that a lot of people participating in such threads are at fault by their own volition. And you have to remember that politics is just like money itself, as nothing but a tool. Poltics doesn't care how you apply and how the policies people fought for turn out. So it literally doesn't matter in terms of politics if you life in a society that values liberty or a totalitarian state, apart from peoples own mental states as nobody "owns" politics and its rules. As someone who reads all sorts of threads with all sorts of different tones, it should be on the interest of every person to understand that political discussions that are actually worthwhile are nothing more than accounting for the pros and cons of certain established axioms (every culture has different politics and policies). Any other discussion about policies often boil down like video game discussions, some people want to be correct and there always has to be an enemy who is in the wrong. The people therefore become victim to their own political dogma and the way to discuss things becomes murky of any truth. And as things become more extreme, the less people want to be involved with dialectic. So in the end, the meaning of the word you say becomes less of the focus of the topic itself, rather it becomes more important if people mean that they're correct. You can be as correct as you might be, if someone is better with words, they always will "win" the debate. This is my reasoning why GOG will establish more strict rules to forbid talking about poltics on here if they want to keep things in the main discussion board and why I initially posted the previous comment inside your thread. Consider this a gut feeling, but I also feel that the next CDPR game will show the results of rheorically established policies that divided people in the end, which is often one of the many themes of Cyberpunk plots. How those were established however might be interesting.

So with this ramble written down, from my own knowledge into the history of politics is that policies can only become fruitful whenever there is compromise between parties. For instance, oppressive working regimes have become less restrictive in the last 125 years thanks to compromises for instance. The crux of the issue regarding any meta-political discussion, which is the question whether or not the people/politicans are at fault for not caring about compromise or if they're just victims of previously established policies and just following rules the simpliest way themselves is a complex issue that I don't know the answer to. Its because of that I'm usually not commenting in political thread as I don't have anything important or useful to say that actually fuels those threads. I just wish that people would see political discussions more like smalltalk and not like a "war with sides" that you have to partake in like a good soldier.

I asked as many here seem to think(or have TOLD ME) that what I post is political and because GOG has a "no politics rule" that anything(seemingly) that's a hot topic must be banned on GOG...as if they know what GOG meant by their rule and know best how to interpret it.

It has led to many saying in my threads(which GOG hasn't warned me on or locked BTW) that what I am posting is mostly politics/banned on GOG and basically saying I shouldn't post such because they apparently know what GOG meant by no politics.

The funny thing they seem to forget/not want to know is that in order for these threads to still exist with GOG staff knowing about/allowing them means 1 of two things: Either A: They are allowed by staff/GOG and those complaining are wrong that my threads are against the rules, or B: The staff are in on it with/being paid off/etc by me somehow. Yet none of those who complain(not you btw...others) acknowledge this.

But enough talk on me/rules....I will be updating the thread with controversy free good news later this morning(in 12 hours or so). Have a good one and thanks for adding your thoughts. :)

As a cat owner, this is good news....it(to me) seems a harmful/nasty practice, and unnecessary in most cases.

This is very good to hear, and I hope the planned additional booms get made and deployed & do some good. Combine it with those plastic eating bacteria(is that a good thing I wonder for the environment?) and we'd be mostly set as far as cleaning up ocean garbage goes(with regards to the big garabage patches)