It seems that you're using an outdated browser. Some things may not work as they should (or don't work at all).
We suggest you upgrade newer and better browser like: Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer or Opera

×
high rated
avatar
Linko90: 3. We changed the wording
What you have changed once could be changed back again (given the fact that the website is broken on several browsers - support ticket is already opened - I guess you (meaning GOG) already has some work to do, so it would not be additional work). As you can clearly see people are concerned and I don't see any practical reasons why this has been changed in the first place.

Yes, I know, the GOG community is very easyly concerned but that's all because some "not so great experiences" in the past here on GOG which mostly weren't bad intend from GOG but bad communication with their potential buyers. So why should you worry your potential customers further if it would not be necessary at all.

Don't get me wrong, I don't demand anything - but this really does not have to be a problem at all - however I can see this being discussed even after months whenever people would see another GOG decision making them think GOG wants to go Steam.

You might not know it (depends on how long you are following GOGs history before becoming the CM here) but when GOG started they had some principles as you can see here . Since GOG (or rather Good old Games back then) nearly dropped all of those principles even though what has been said in the linked article, people are now clinging to "DRM-free". So them worrying about this is kind of understandable.

Since all those years I am still convinced that the biggest problem GOG ever had is their wording and communication skills - just think about the Galaxy integrated offline installer decision bomb they dropped on us right before the weekend so there was no feedback at all until monday and people were furious about it. GOG always mean good and they try to do their best but their communication was lacking - a lot. This is something we (see link below)

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/6_community_members_went_to_gog_hq

told them in person about a year ago and so far it has not changed very much unfortunately except of course for you being here doing the best to keep the atmosphere as friendly as you can but that is not what I mean here, I am talking about explanation of certain business decisions.

As it has been said multiple times "In library" gives a very different association then "owned" so if it simply is just a changed wording you should really reconsider.

(This dang forum is a complete different matter - now I am trying to correct the hyperlinks .... once again - ARGH!)
Post edited October 04, 2018 by MarkoH01
avatar
OldOldGamer: Owned is more in line with GOG DRM free ideals. You buy, you own.

In Library is mirroring Steam, where you don t own the item.

Can someone from Product Maeketing come and clarify choices behind these changes?
I really struggle.
avatar
ReynardFox: Yeah this wording doesn't sit well with me at all. 'Owned' sounded like 'it's yours', 'In Library' sounds like something that could be followed with 'for now'.

The wording change is asinine, and I'd really like an actual reason why something that didn't need to be changed, was.
"Owned" was the wrong wording - you don't "own" games, you own the right to use them in accordance to EULA after you put them into your library. However, unlike (most) other stores that provide software, GOG doesn't restrict you in your use of games outside your GOG Library, and that is something that they don't intend to change, as far as I understand, based on their "FCK DRM" campaign, and recent interviews (Eurogamer)... After all, "DRM free" is still their main strength... (unlike web design, some would say ;) )
Thanks GOG for giving away Shadow Warriors 2 for free!

With that said, I have a few things to say about the sale.

1. General sale items:
Not too impressed, I didn't buy anything here.

2. 10th Anniversary Collections
Very impressed with the deep discount, bought The Modern Classics bundle even though I had Shadow Tactics on Steam. The deal was too good to pass up. I passed on the other 2 because I owned all but one item on the list for each bundle.

As many others have stated, I also don't like the fact that the gift keys expire.
As for having to buy games I already own, I have no problem with this if it means a deeper discount. I'll just have to figure out if it's worth the price if I own one or more of the games in the bundle. I can always trade/give it away.

I would love to see this type of bundles in the future minus the keys expiring.

3. Redesign of the website
In general, I like it. Looks a lot better. I really like the additional filters in the reviews section.

I really didn't like the auto-play of the videos (on game page), was annoying but seems to be turned off now.
I was disappointed in see that the sales tab was replaced by a Game for you tab on the front page.
Post edited October 04, 2018 by 221bBS
avatar
221bBS: 1. General sale items:
Not too impressed, I didn't buy anything here.
Yeah, the general sale is pretty weak. There's, what, 200 games discounted. Most of them are the games that get discounted on a regular basis, and they are usually discounted more than they are for this sale.

Not that I think I'm entitled to a sale, it's just not that great.
avatar
ReynardFox: Yeah this wording doesn't sit well with me at all. 'Owned' sounded like 'it's yours', 'In Library' sounds like something that could be followed with 'for now'.

The wording change is asinine, and I'd really like an actual reason why something that didn't need to be changed, was.
avatar
krakataul: "Owned" was the wrong wording - you don't "own" games, you own the right to use them in accordance to EULA after you put them into your library. However, unlike (most) other stores that provide software, GOG doesn't restrict you in your use of games outside your GOG Library, and that is something that they don't intend to change, as far as I understand, based on their "FCK DRM" campaign, and recent interviews (Eurogamer)... After all, "DRM free" is still their main strength... (unlike web design, some would say ;) )
I own the damn right to use a game!
Doesn't matter!
I "own" whatever GOG sold me!
So, relative to GOG context, owning is the right word.

"In library" doesn't make sense either.
There is no library. Is damn collection of rights.


Anyway. I guess the "strong" point of this 10th whatever thing, was a fake vote where SW2 would have been given for free.
Post edited October 04, 2018 by OldOldGamer
high rated
avatar
PainOfSalvation: Same here. Huge disappointment for me. Back to School (previous) Sale was also worst i've seen since i'm on GOG, first sale that i didn't buy anything and now Anniversary Sale which should be something big, 0 games bought.
Aren't we all basically spoiled by the constant sales everywhere? Wether it's gog, steam, humble bundle, indiegala, legit keystores like gamesplanet....there's always a sale going on, all the time games are discounted to the point.
Does anybody remember the old days? No sales? Just a christmas sale? Nothing because your locale gamestore didn't do stuff like that and retail games got discounted after 1-2 years?

I really never get that. On Steam it's the same. Summer Sale happens and people are unhappy that not all games are discounted 90%. Do you guys realize how entitled you all came across while probably having a librabry with hundreds/thousands of games, 90% of which remain unplayed but "I was hoping for a big sale, to unload more games on a pile of unplayed games, just because"?

And do any of you "i own half of gogs library" people realize that sales aren't just made for you but actually for everybody, even people who just stumbled onto gog and might think "wow, all those classics and modern ingie games! i'm gonna start a library right now!"? No? Thought so.

Take a step back and just realize in what position you guys are and that the sale isn't made for the "500 games owned veterans" specifically.
avatar
OldOldGamer: Anyway. I guess the "strong" point of this 10th whatever thing, was a fake vote where SW2 would have been given for free.
I'm not sure the vote was fake. Most people expected SW2 to win from the outset, so it wasn't too surprising that it won.
avatar
krakataul: "Owned" was the wrong wording - you don't "own" games, you own the right to use them in accordance to EULA after you put them into your library. However, unlike (most) other stores that provide software, GOG doesn't restrict you in your use of games outside your GOG Library, and that is something that they don't intend to change, as far as I understand, based on their "FCK DRM" campaign, and recent interviews (Eurogamer)... After all, "DRM free" is still their main strength... (unlike web design, some would say ;) )
avatar
OldOldGamer: I own the damn right to use a game!
Doesn't matter!
I "own" whatever GOG sold me!
So, relative to GOG context, owning is the right word.

"In library" doesn't make sense either.
There is no library. Is damn collection of rights.

Anyway. I guess the "strong" point of this 10th whatever thing, was a fake vote where SW2 would have been given for free.
*X-Files music plays*
low rated
avatar
OldOldGamer: Anyway. I guess the "strong" point of this 10th whatever thing, was a fake vote where SW2 would have been given for free.
avatar
hummer010: I'm not sure the vote was fake. Most people expected SW2 to win from the outset, so it wasn't too surprising that it won.
That means fake = obvious winner

I find amusing moderator having fun of customer posts, while the same miderator have great difficulty reading between the lines.
Sorry, but your really are on the verge of seeing another customer giving you the final salute.
And old one.

Not before I ll send formal complaining email about your poor quality job.
Post edited October 05, 2018 by OldOldGamer
It was a foregone conclusion that SW2 would win, it was never not going to win, it was silly to think otherways.

Hey GOG, you know what would have been nice instead of this phony, pointless vote? If you'd just given away SW2, or if users could have personally chosen which game of the three they wanted.
Post edited October 05, 2018 by ReynardFox
I don‘t see the point in complaining which game won. It‘s a giveaway, which they did not have to do at all. At least for me, I can say that I voted for SW2. If something else would have won, I‘d happily take that.
avatar
ReynardFox: It was a foregone conclusion that SW2 would win, it was never not going to win, it was silly to think otherways.

Hey GOG, you know what would have been nice instead of this phony, pointless vote? If you'd just given away SW2, or if users could have personally chosen which game of the three they wanted.
avatar
OldOldGamer: That means fake = obvious winner
What a pair of whiny babies.

GOG decides to give away a game, and allow some community involvement in deciding which game it is. Yeah, it was pretty obvious which game was going to win.

Boo hoo hoo, GOG didn't give you the game you wanted. You sound like a pair of entitled brats that need to go sit in the timeout chair.
avatar
ReynardFox: It was a foregone conclusion that SW2 would win, it was never not going to win, it was silly to think otherways.

Hey GOG, you know what would have been nice instead of this phony, pointless vote? If you'd just given away SW2, or if users could have personally chosen which game of the three they wanted.
avatar
hummer010:
avatar
OldOldGamer: That means fake = obvious winner
avatar
hummer010: What a pair of whiny babies.

GOG decides to give away a game, and allow some community involvement in deciding which game it is. Yeah, it was pretty obvious which game was going to win.

Boo hoo hoo, GOG didn't give you the game you wanted. You sound like a pair of entitled brats that need to go sit in the timeout chair.
Yes it was more than obvious that Shadow Warrior would win. I wanted Firewatch to win but each one of the options was a reason to be thankful and at least we get a chance to try and vote our favourite.
avatar
guysav: Yes it was more than obvious that Shadow Warrior would win. I wanted Firewatch to win but each one of the options was a reason to be thankful and at least we get a chance to try and vote our favourite.
I voted Firewatch too, although, to be fair, I already owned all three, just not all on GOG.
avatar
hummer010: Boo hoo hoo, GOG didn't give you the game you wanted. You sound like a pair of entitled brats that need to go sit in the timeout chair.
It's completely irrelevant whether I won the game I wanted or not, it's the dodgy handling of the giveaway that annoys me, much like everything in this anniversary, it was badly implemented. If they had just given away SW2, I wouldn't have been phased, I just don't like the bullshit pretense of a vote that was never, ever going to matter.

Like the broken site redesign, the expiring paid codes, the mostly mediocre new releases, it's just more pointlessness on top of an already extremely underwhelming event.
Post edited October 05, 2018 by ReynardFox