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Posted April 30, 2015
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iphgix: If you are using family sharing, can you both play at the same time?
With the same method, host playing offline, person who you shared with playing online. That's how I understand it works at least, haven't tried it recently myself.

With family sharing your progress and saves etc are all different, or should be at least.

Of course not an optimal solution but personally I don't see an issue with one bought game being for one person at a time.
Post edited April 30, 2015 by Pheace
Posted April 30, 2015
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Pheace: Not if you're using Family Sharing
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iphgix: If you are using family sharing, can you both play at the same time?
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amok: Looking away from family sharing, if Steam notices a discrepancy in save games, it askes you want to to do.
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iphgix: And what are your choices?
Basically it asks you which save game you want to keep. And if you don't like that choice, you could just turn the clouds off for that game on the offline computer also, so you never get into this situation.
Posted April 30, 2015
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Tarnicus: Well said. Also note that Steam's "auto-updating feature" is very buggy and attempting to disable a game from auto-updating often doesn't work.
I disable each and every my Steam games' auto updates, as I have limited quota.

It works fine for me. Nothing auto updates without my express permission, except the Steam client itself which forces auto update
Posted April 30, 2015
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kokop159: Then isn't Steam easier to update? Just update it and it's done.
That's really only a concern for the first few months when the game comes out. It's folly to believe that patching is that frequent, even on Steam. Eventually support will grind to a halt, and that's when DRM-free comes to the fore.
Posted April 30, 2015
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Voqar: The only reason I could see for buying it at GOG over Steam would be to make sure the dev gets more of the money (in this case, since the dev owns GOG). ...
I agree with this and disagree with most/all of the rest you said. I prefer GOG to Steam and think the service is better here, not at last because DRM is not meaningless. I'm so happy there is an alternative to Steam which, if you look a bit more closely, is quite crappy.

I will buy Witcher 3 definitely here.
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kokop159: Then isn't Steam easier to update? Just update it and it's done.
Just start the game and click on update using the ingame updater (at least that's how it worked for Witcher 2). It doesn't get much easier?

On the other hand the easiest might be just to wait a bit and then play in full glory independent of any distribution channel.
Post edited April 30, 2015 by Trilarion
Posted April 30, 2015
I suppose I will make one more post on this thread and be done. If I buy the game on GOG, I do not have to do anything or skirt the DRM licensing rules to be able to play it simultaneously on every computer in my house. I OWN the game and can put it on every PC that I also own, legally and with GOG's blessing and consent. If you buy the game on steam...the lisencing specifies that You are to play it yourself or, with family sharing, You can share it but only one person is SUPPOSED to be playing your entire library at a time. There are ways to use offline mode to effectively skirt these restrictions, but you are not exactly a rule follower if you are using these methods. Also there are likely to be several patches in the early stages after release. I can download the patch and run it on all of my PCs simultaneously. You will have to log into steam go online, patch the game, go back offline, go to the next computer, log into steam.... do the hokey pokey, and repeat until all of your PCs are up to date.

To the comment that you do not have a problem with only using a game that you rented on one PC at a time, that is the difference between renting a game and owning a game. Several of my older children and my wife can enjoy the game while I do if I buy it on GOG. Blizzard makes me buy multiple copies of their games to play with my kids and I am not terribly happy about that, but That is their choice as a developer/distribution company. Given the choice by CD PRojekt Red as to which distributor I want to use, the choice of 1 license/1 player at a time or 1 license for the entire house is up to ME.
Post edited April 30, 2015 by iphgix
Posted April 30, 2015
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iphgix: I suppose I will make one more post on this thread and be done. If I buy the game on GOG, I do not have to do anything or skirt the DRM licensing rules to be able to play it simultaneously on every computer in my house. I OWN the game and can put it on every PC that I also own, legally and with GOG's blessing and consent. If you buy the game on steam...the lisencing specifies that You are to play it yourself or, with family sharing, You can share it but only one person is SUPPOSED to be playing your entire library at a time. There are ways to use offline mode to effectively skirt these restrictions, but you are not exactly a rule follower if you are using these methods. Also there are likely to be several patches in the early stages after release. I can download the patch and run it on all of my PCs simultaneously. You will have to log into steam go online, patch the game, go back offline, go to the next computer, log into steam.... do the hokey pokey, and repeat until all of your PCs are up to date.

To the comment that you do not have a problem with only using a game that you rented on one PC at a time, that is the difference between renting a game and owning a game. Several of my older children and my wife can enjoy the game while I do if I buy it on GOG. Blizzard makes me buy multiple copies of their games to play with my kids and I am not terribly happy about that, but That is their choice as a developer/distribution company. Given the choice by CD PRojekt Red as to which distributor I want to use, the choice of 1 license/1 player at a time or 1 license for the entire house is up to ME.
the standard gOg license also state "[...]This Program is licensed, not sold, for your personal, non-commercial use. [...]"
It does not state there what you are describing is allowed either, it is only for personal use. So you can say, in fact, that you are using DRM free to circumvent the EULA you have agreed to.
Posted May 03, 2015
I hope this GOG launcher doesn't become mandatory, or I'll have to look elsewhere. I have a steam library, I refuse to use any more systems, I mistakenly bought FarCry 4 from a shop, thinking i could install it and be done... nope, uPlay account... I think well, ok that's fine... but for some reason, uPlay messes up, it took me 2 months from buying the actual disks to being able to play the dam thing. If I had known, I never would have bought it, even though I am enjoying FarCry.

Odly enough, i've never had issue with Steam (even though I am on a wireless 3G connection, its a bit slow yeah but I live remotely atm) Every other system i've run into has not liked the fact my connection is mobile and i've had to fight it to make it work, steam just does its thing without complaint. Even when i've had hard drives fail and several games damaged, it's a simple proceedure to just grab the steam folder, copy what you can to the new drive, launch it and tell it to verify the games in it, it then repairs any missing or damaged files by downloading the missing pieces. This has happened twice and my actual steam folder is several hard drives old now.

But one launcher is enough, seriously. I have games I want to play on other systems that i just simply will not purchase because you can only use another launcher, we don't need them all.

I would however, support someone smart enough to combine them all, while also keeping the app lightweight.
Post edited May 03, 2015 by boomer141
Posted May 03, 2015
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boomer141: *snip*
There is no GOG launcher actually there is a GOG downloader used to download games currently but if you're referring to GOG Galaxy client, that is completely optional. You don't need to install anything else to run GOG games on your PC and can download games directly through the browser as well.

I certainly understand what you mean regarding too many clients, I also got Far Cry 3 without realizing that Uplay is necessary to run the game on top of Steam and eventhough it runs fine it is still annoying to have two clients open for it. So you can rest assured that nothing of the sort will be required for any of the games on GOG. :)
Posted May 04, 2015
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boomer141: *snip*
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stg83: There is no GOG launcher actually there is a GOG downloader used to download games currently but if you're referring to GOG Galaxy client, that is completely optional. You don't need to install anything else to run GOG games on your PC and can download games directly through the browser as well.

I certainly understand what you mean regarding too many clients, I also got Far Cry 3 without realizing that Uplay is necessary to run the game on top of Steam and eventhough it runs fine it is still annoying to have two clients open for it. So you can rest assured that nothing of the sort will be required for any of the games on GOG. :)
Good to hear, thanks for the info, much appreciated. :)

looking forward to Witcher 3! Wish I could start getting it downloaded now though!
Posted May 04, 2015
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boomer141: Good to hear, thanks for the info, much appreciated. :)

looking forward to Witcher 3! Wish I could start getting it downloaded now though!
No problem, preloading will be available here on GOG and most probably one week before the release date of the game so you will be able to download it soon. :)
Post edited May 04, 2015 by stg83
Posted May 04, 2015
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Tarnicus: Well said. Also note that Steam's "auto-updating feature" is very buggy and attempting to disable a game from auto-updating often doesn't work.
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zeroxxx: I disable each and every my Steam games' auto updates, as I have limited quota.

It works fine for me. Nothing auto updates without my express permission, except the Steam client itself which forces auto update
Hmm. The only options I see are (paraphrased) "always auto update", "wait until I want to play to force an update on me" and "always auto update (high priority)".
Have I misunderstood the second option? Does it require you to update before you can play or does it simply inform you there is an update?
Posted May 08, 2015
Debate over the evility of Steam aside, are both versions identical in terms of content?
Posted May 08, 2015
I vote GOG!
Posted May 13, 2015
I wanted to get this on GOG, but GOG charges me more since it is in USD. I can pay in local currency(Yen) on Steam, so Steam it is.
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