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Posted October 08, 2023
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WinterSnowfall: Hot take perhaps, but I think it's just culture clash. GOG (and not necessarily the almighty GOGBear) are Polish and therefore have a nonchalant way of focusing on keeping their own dystopian ways alive, while ZP has clear US origins where it's more about who-knows-who, making noise, getting in the face of your competition and capitalism. Well, maybe I haven't picked my words quite right, but I definitely would expect more drama and corporate head-butting coming from the US.

P.S.: Just to be clear, I'm not excusing any of their behavior, past or present, I'm only saying a large part of it is hardly all that surprising, all things considered.
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natewrench: if ZP could be as big as GOG it could compete with steam and humblebundle
no.
Posted October 08, 2023
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DoomSooth: I just want the best version(s) of DRM-free games wherever I can find them.
If games are truely DRM free without any form of authentification, there should not be any difference between stores, they could all sell the same verison of a game.
Then it would only be a matte of convenience reguarding the install options.


At least we can fight about different stores. Console players don't get to fight where they want to buy their games.
Posted October 08, 2023
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natewrench: if ZP could be as big as GOG it could compete with steam and humblebundle
Even GOG can not compete with Steam.

Look at how many of the CD Projekt games can be bought from Steam. Then look at how many of the Valve games can be bought from GOG. This will give you an idea of which one is in a dominant situation.
Posted October 08, 2023
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natewrench: if ZP could be as big as GOG it could compete with steam and humblebundle
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vv221: Even GOG can not compete with Steam.

Look at how many of the CD Projekt games can be bought from Steam. Then look at how many of the Valve games can be bought from GOG. This will give you an idea of which one is in a dominant situation.
So what?

Steam is never going to liberate in that sense the half life label and square enix is not going to do it about final fantasy or dragon quest

Your idea would have been that the witcher or Cyberpunk should have been specific GOG only exclusives?

Well, risky, debatable. I guess people makes their market maths, never completely accurate but it is an important factor developed by people who knows more than you an me in that regard

But If you ask me it would have been a breaker and avant gard. Exclusive for a year at least because I can.

Well, I lack enough information. Things are more complex
Posted October 08, 2023
When visiting Zoom PIatform, do feel a bit nostalgic since the exclusives include a handful of educational games I used to play as a kid. Otherwise, the selection is small, most of the games I do want on Zoom are already available on GOG. If it weren't for the fact that I got A Vampyre Story on GOG prior to its delisting, I would have bought the game on Zoom. Anyways, I do hope the store grows, and eventually I'll start shopping there as well as GOG.

I mostly ignore Humble Bundle because so many of the games are sold in the form of Steam keys, and I don't have enough patience to shift though all them.
Post edited October 09, 2023 by SpaceMadness
Posted October 08, 2023
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Gudadantza: Your idea would have been that the witcher or Cyberpunk should have been specific GOG only exclusives?

Well, risky, debatable. I guess people makes their market maths, never completely accurate but it is an important factor developed by people who knows more than you an me in that regard
I do believe after the success of Witcher 3, it was GOG's plan to be the exclusive marketplace for CDPR releases...

... but when Thronebreaker was met with fan resistance (when it looked like the game would not release on Steam) and sales didn't hit the numbers CDPR and GOG wanted...

... plans on exclusivity were put on hold.

I imagine they will try again. Maybe with Witcher 4?

Here's an article about the situation:

"CDPR admits that Thronebreaker’s GoG exclusivity didn’t work out" (link: https://www.criticalhit.net/gaming/cdpr-admits-that-thronebreakers-gog-exclusivity-didnt-work-out/)

As to Zoom...

... I've seen a few games there that I'd like to buy, but not enough to keep me visiting the site. If they start releasing new titles on a regular basis, I'd certainly respond by creating a quick tab link to the site. While I like GOG, I have no problem purchasing from any site that provides DRM-free content.
Post edited October 08, 2023 by kai2
Posted October 08, 2023
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kai2: If they start releasing new titles on a regular basis, I'd certainly respond by creating a quick tab link to the site.
How regular is regular?
Posted October 08, 2023
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SpaceMadness: I mostly ignore Humble Bundle because so many of the games are sold in the form of Steam keys, and I don't have enough patience to shift though all them.
There's nothing to sift though. It literally has a DRM filter. Select DRM-Free and it'll show DRM-Free games hosted by Humble.
Some may show up as both DRM-Free and Steam, in which case you get to choose between a DRM-Free download link and a Steam key.
Posted October 08, 2023
GOG:
con: not entirely DRM-free anymore and they don't tell you when a game has DRM


Zoom:
Pro: 100% DRM-free


Humble:
Con: mostly Steam key reseller nowadays, but at least they let you know beforehand if the game you buy has DRM
Posted October 08, 2023
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Lifthrasil: GOG:
con: not entirely DRM-free anymore and they don't tell you when a game has DRM
Con: mostly Steam key reseller nowadays, but at least they let you know beforehand if the game you buy has DRM
neutral: in most (not all, but most) cases they write it on the store page, if that's the case.
"requires Galaxy for multi player yadda yadda yadda".

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Lifthrasil: Zoom:
Pro: 100% DRM-free
neutral: doesn't have the games in question in the first place, have to go to GOG to buy them.
Posted October 08, 2023
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Gudadantza: Your idea would have been that the witcher or Cyberpunk should have been specific GOG only exclusives?
Valve used their flagship game, Half-Life 2, to enforce the use of DRM onto games distribution. CD Projekt doing the same to promote DRM-free games distribution would have been an impactful answer to that.

Hey, I probably would have bought their games if they had done that! Such a symbolic action would have deserved support.

Sadly today the word "exclusivity" has taken a very twisted sense: a game is "exclusive" to a platform when it is not available from Steam. A game being sold only through Steam on the other hand will never be applied the "exclusive" label.
Posted October 08, 2023
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vv221: Valve used their flagship game, Half-Life 2, to enforce the use of DRM onto games distribution. CD Projekt doing the same to promote DRM-free games distribution would have been an impactful answer to that.
CDP has done that since the Witcher 1, but no one cares.

The point with Cyberpunk is that they want Steam players to make a GOG Account. And Steam regulations demand that the Steam version is not inferior to other versions. So our versions must need one as well.

It is somewhat strange that the same company runs a store that promotes a DRM free store and a developer that releases games with DRMed content. While all CDP games starting with the Witcher 1 can be played completely offline without losing any game content, some of the cosmetic items can not be used in the latest games and are only available through DRM.

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vv221: Sadly today the word "exclusivity" has taken a very twisted sense: a game is "exclusive" to a platform when it is not available from Steam. A game being sold only through Steam on the other hand will never be applied the "exclusive" label.
Amen to that.
Post edited October 08, 2023 by neumi5694
Posted October 08, 2023
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kai2: If they start releasing new titles on a regular basis, I'd certainly respond by creating a quick tab link to the site.
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SargonAelther: How regular is regular?
A more consistent pace than their current sporadic releasing "schedule."
Posted October 09, 2023
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neumi5694: CDP has done that since the Witcher 1, but no one cares.
We might not be talking about the same thing here.
All of the Witcher games are available for sale from Steam, so CD Projekt is obviously OK with DRMed distribution of their games.
Posted October 09, 2023
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kai2: If they start releasing new titles on a regular basis, I'd certainly respond by creating a quick tab link to the site.
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SargonAelther: How regular is regular?
They need to release a game once every week or two. ZP said they have the licenses to a couple hundred games, but they are not releasing them in a timely manner. The games they have been releasing lately are very odd.

Shadow Vault was the only interesting game I seen them release. I know the ZP community not going crazy over the educational and sexually anime games.
Post edited October 09, 2023 by Syphon72
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