And yet more proof.

And one more.

Some users on these forms will disagree with you because of programs called Goldberg and Steamless. The funny thing is that more games are using 3rd Party DRM with Steam DRM. Even none AAA games.

Let's see you have a button called "Download and Install" and when you click on it it... download and install the game...

Damn, that's actually the worse kind of misdirection possible a misdirection that actually does exactly what it tells you it will do! how can they keep getting away with it!


Seriously while you can complain about Gog not so "optimal" web design or often dumb ideas (e.g. the whole CP2077 rewards) but the whole "trick" you described has less to do with some Illuminati style evil conspiracy and more to do with them wanting to avoid the extra support of needing to explain to the average Steam user how to download, install and update their games manually, which is something, for those with short (or selective) memories, that used to generate a couple of forum posts every day not too long ago.

And if peoples are interested into having DRM-free offline installer then I am pretty sure they can manage to click once on the "Download offline backup game installers" label to expand it (or download said offline installer with Galaxy like I do) and if they cannot then it's probably better for them to continue using a client anyway.
No it's different, the two program you mention bypass Steam similar to a crack. Steam games that peoples tend to call DRM-free are those who are DRM-free out of the box, as in you can copy the install folder to any offline computer and it will run without issue. Most of them are indies (often having exactly the same binaries than the Gog version) but there are some AAA ones too even if they are pretty rare. (e.g. Jedi Fallen Order)

there's stuff unique to all. I need to buy more dos games

What?
I know, Just saying some people say steam is DRM free because of those programs. I agree with you.
ZP probably disagree with you..

It doesn't have to be a competition and I do use both. They both have exclusives too. I was very pleasantly surprised to find both Knights of the Temple games over at ZP.

Read the line after the quote you didn't understand

I see two big limitations of these tools:
- they do not remove the need to go through the DRMed delivery system first, they only work on a game you already downloaded
- at least in my country (France) it is illegal to circumvent DRM schemes, so if you are going with illegal solutions you might have well pirate the game in the first place (relevant XKCD: Steal This Comic)

So while I am happy that tools like these are developed, they sadly are not useful for someone restricting themselves to legal DRM-free distribution.

I'm pretty sure the "What?" was meant to be paired with the "ss.png" attachment in Syphon72's post.

Anyway, Humble does have a DRM filter. I bought a DRM-Free version of the Bullet Witch from there.

I know. We also have Cyberpunk2077 DRM free. Labels can be misleading.

You should read the following lines in that post as well.

Many games that are DRM free do not show up when you set the DRM filter.

I said WE are supposed to have Cyberpunk DRM free It's not, but it's advertised as such. Part of the content is very much locked behind online DRM.

That's what I said. Labels can be misleading. On Humble "DRM free" does not mean "show all DRM free games" but "available as direct download on Humble". That's the filter they have, which I already wrote in that previous post with similar words.

Well maybe a little bit, but once you understand them, they're fine. You know that DRM-Free will be DRM-Free, hosted by Humble themselves. You know GOG will be a key to a DRM-Free platform*. As for whatever DRM-Free games Steam, Epic or other platforms may have, I would not expect Humble to go out of their way to research that.


*Then, Ironically, Humble referring to GOG as "DRM" is very appropriate in the case of Cyberpunk and the Witcher 3 lol.