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Posted October 02, 2023
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Syphon72: Is there any real proof this what GOG doing? Trying to trick us? Because it sounds like a conspiracy.
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vv221: Have you been living under a rock since 2014? ;P

Hey, they do not even try to hide it, they are pretty transparent with their will to get all of their customers to use their optional-for-now games client.
It's not proof that GOG is trying to trick us. Pushing the Galaxy is different than trying to trick people. I might have been under a rock since 2014. haha
Posted October 02, 2023
How do you trick someone anyway if you don't hide it - or in other words - tell him exactly what your plan is? How is that a trick of any kind?
Posted October 02, 2023
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natewrench: GOG:
pros:
Longevity
easy name to remember
DRM-free movies/games
working on modern systems plus all manuals and bonuses.
ancestors came from Poland
cons:
gog galaxy launcher slow to launch, needed for multiplayer access (depends on games understandable)

jordan zoom platform:
pros:
Duke Nukem 3d
Educational and Historical legacy titles
Additional stuff that comes with games thanks to community
Cons:
name confusing with zoom video chat
not a lot in library
needs more exclusives
needs more coverage to compete with gog/steam

humble bundle
pros:
charity work
drm free
dual steam/hb copy sometimes depending on game
great stuff to get all in ones
cons:
owned by IGN
no launcher
bundles depends on price (pay what you want but requires a minimum so i think changing the terms is needed to avoid false advertising)
long name
is zoom platform fixing postal 3 a pro or com. i've been playing it apart from the load screen freezing it's playable.
Posted October 02, 2023
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AstralWanderer: One significant downside of Zoom Platform compared to GOG/Steam is the lack of community forums - which removes the possibility of user-to-user support, which can be important when official support doesn't come up to scratch.
Currently the ZP Discord is where the community gathers and offers user to user support.

But yes, forums would be nice, especially as a way to archive info.
Posted October 02, 2023
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AstralWanderer: ...when official support doesn't come up to scratch.
Hasn't happened yet, as far as I've seen.

Message boards are mostly useless, anyway.
Posted October 02, 2023
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neumi5694: How do you trick someone anyway if you don't hide it - or in other words - tell him exactly what your plan is? How is that a trick of any kind?
What does hiding have to do with it? The behavior outlined in vv221's description is clearly, intentionally deceptive, with a clear goal of leading people to Galaxy and away from offline installers. The fact that users don't have to fall for it is irrelevant. The only valid excuse might be ignorance (i.e., it was unintentional), but they have been publicly criticized since they started this practice, so ignorance is not possible.

Needless to say, I consider the lack of a semi-mandatory network-attached client to be a positive. And if you disagree, then, to be fair, you will have to dock gog as well, for not providing its client on all supported platforms.
Posted October 02, 2023
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darktjm: The fact that users don't have to fall for it is irrelevant.
You are only tricking someone, if he's supposed to fall for it, so it's very much relevant.

You may like Galaxy or not, that's up to you. But nobody is tricking anybody here.
Post edited October 02, 2023 by neumi5694
Posted October 02, 2023
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Syphon72: It's not proof that GOG is trying to trick us. Pushing the Galaxy is different than trying to trick people. I might have been under a rock since 2014
I guess you don't remember the "g suffixed" Bundleware offline installer bait & switch introduced roughly the same time as the website makeover that did its best to hide the non Galaxy download links behind "More -> Classic Installer" download menus after about 2 years of general over-pushing of Galaxy between 2015-2017? It was only a large-scale outcry (that 1700 post thread where the backlash was bad enough that somehow even Blue moderator accounts managed to get "low rated" at the time) that's the only reason Galaxy-less offline installers can still be found on each game card today...
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Post edited October 02, 2023 by AB2012
Posted October 02, 2023
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neumi5694: You are only tricking someone, if he's supposed to fall for it, so it's very much relevant.
Your ethical standards leave a lot to be desired. Apparently it's only deceptive if it's 100% impossible for people to realize you're deceiving them. Or maybe you think they have to outright lie about it, because truth is never deceptive.
Posted October 02, 2023
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neumi5694: You are only tricking someone, if he's supposed to fall for it, so it's very much relevant.
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darktjm: Your ethical standards leave a lot to be desired. Apparently it's only deceptive if it's 100% impossible for people to realize you're deceiving them. Or maybe you think they have to outright lie about it, because truth is never deceptive.
If "supposed to" means "100%" for you, your interpretation skills are just as bad, so let's call it even.
edit: typo
Post edited October 02, 2023 by neumi5694
Posted October 02, 2023
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Syphon72: It's not proof that GOG is trying to trick us. Pushing the Galaxy is different than trying to trick people. I might have been under a rock since 2014. haha
Of course it's trying to trick people. Ever go to a website to download anything? Do you see the large, often green DOWNLOAD NOW advertisements on them? Of course it's intentional. Grocery stores intentionally rearrange their shelves to force customers to stay in the store longer, And gog puts a great big DOWNLOAD NOW button there to get people to click on that instead of just the game files.

If you aren't aware of the often used manipulations of capitalists, then one wonders where you have been, if not under a rock.
Posted October 02, 2023
what i am wondering is why:
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natewrench: [...]
ancestors came from Poland
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is listed as a pro
Posted October 02, 2023
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amok: what i am wondering is why:
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natewrench: [...]
ancestors came from Poland
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amok: is listed as a pro
heritage, i guess its a vanity thing.

Still I could do other digital services like Uplay/Origin but I lost my accounts there so the games disappeared. I consider Uplay to be the worst, EA App (origin) second, battle.net third. Trying to install and launch each separate launcher is tedious and I like to stick to storefronts where most of the games are DRM free (I should have done steam as a comparison but its so stuck in my head i figured its be second nature.
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natewrench: GOG:
pros:
Longevity
easy name to remember
DRM-free movies/games
working on modern systems plus all manuals and bonuses.
ancestors came from Poland
cons:
gog galaxy launcher slow to launch, needed for multiplayer access (depends on games understandable)

jordan zoom platform:
pros:
Duke Nukem 3d
Educational and Historical legacy titles
Additional stuff that comes with games thanks to community
Cons:
name confusing with zoom video chat
not a lot in library
needs more exclusives
needs more coverage to compete with gog/steam

humble bundle
pros:
charity work
drm free
dual steam/hb copy sometimes depending on game
great stuff to get all in ones
cons:
owned by IGN
no launcher
bundles depends on price (pay what you want but requires a minimum so i think changing the terms is needed to avoid false advertising)
long name
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armedready: is zoom platform fixing postal 3 a pro or com. i've been playing it apart from the load screen freezing it's playable.
if you fix postal 3 it wouldn't be postal anymore. I guess they intentionally borked the release so they could get a meme going
Post edited October 02, 2023 by natewrench
Posted October 02, 2023
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amok: what i am wondering is why:

is listed as a pro
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natewrench: heritage, i guess its a vanity thing.
all our ancestors came out of Africa, so meh
Posted October 02, 2023
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AstralWanderer: ...when official support doesn't come up to scratch.
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DoomSooth: Hasn't happened yet, as far as I've seen.

Message boards are mostly useless, anyway.
No, it's good to archive things.
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Syphon72: It's not proof that GOG is trying to trick us. Pushing the Galaxy is different than trying to trick people. I might have been under a rock since 2014. haha
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OldFatGuy: Of course it's trying to trick people. Ever go to a website to download anything? Do you see the large, often green DOWNLOAD NOW advertisements on them? Of course it's intentional. Grocery stores intentionally rearrange their shelves to force customers to stay in the store longer, And gog puts a great big DOWNLOAD NOW button there to get people to click on that instead of just the game files.

If you aren't aware of the often used manipulations of capitalists, then one wonders where you have been, if not under a rock.
It's not tricking people if it's right there still. You people are being paranoid as usual.
Post edited October 02, 2023 by Raf..
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