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mechmouse: The problem here is some games come with a significant service portion. NMS from the outset had this "wikipedia of planets", it was a core part of the game play. One that can only works with an account based online element. The only way GOG can be be 100% offline is not to sell these types of games.
The uploading of visited planets is disabled when offline, but you still get some benefit by clicking the upload button. I can understand that server access might be needed to organise and deliver specialised content like seasonal missions and the like even if you're playing by yourself. There are situations where server-delivered content makes sense because to code it in would take much more work and drastically change the game in doing so.

But the devs locked simple things like free daily derelict transponders and new planet discovery quicksilver payments behind a server check, and the devs didn't offer a viable way of earning Quicksilver - a premium currency which still exists in offline games and can activate things within an offline game - without an always online server check. This is where it got iffy. The game will give you just enough Quicksilver in an offline game to buy one egg for the living ship quest to unlock, and maybe a misc cosmetic. This quest is genuine SP content, but if you don't know about it because you didn't read up on the game first you could waste your coin and never see this content unless you go online. See my point? The devs will argue there's content which is by necessity server-locked, and yes that exists, but there's a tiny bit there around the edges which gets wilfully ignored by both parties. And that's the part I've deemed unforgivably DRM.
Post edited December 27, 2022 by Braggadar
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AB2012: GOG also doesn't do any QA on offline installers (that are auto-built from above developer uploads) anymore,
Yeah, it does not do proper QA, at most limited in scope (i.g. "Cult of the Lamb," the staff said checking its installers) and not unlikely with pre-installed Galaxy.

I do remember a version of "Kingdoms and Castles" with the game that just doesn't launch on no matter what the system (our forum folks noticed), it was later "fixed" by the developers with pushing a new release version. The fact of "No Man's Sky" officially dropping and [url=https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/10364071969041-I-m-getting-an-Unsupported-Windows-Version-Detected-popup-on-PC-but-I-meet-the-minimum-specs]multiplayer for Windows 7/8.1 and GOG not correcting that does tell a lot too. I am sure any of you may name a ton of additional problematic things on the store in addition.

Could GOG at least employ 1 person that will install and run games on an offline PC daily for at least 10 or more minutes on 2-4 systems? This is not unrealistic. Typically GOG makes around 5-25 installers daily (except on a weekend and holidays), this means plenty of time for some basic testing of things if GOG cared about that.

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AB2012: Edit: And yes, I know this survey is not binding in any way, but this is the chance to let the people at the top know what we want.
I'm unsure, looking on the state of Cyberpunk 2077 still riddled with bugs and the newer remaster of "The Wticher 3" being a disaster. Where is the guarantee this will be read by the top without any changes by others? Not unlikely it'll be pre-processed into something else, into what "the top wants to hear" instead of the truth (sometimes sad one).
Post edited December 27, 2022 by SilentBleppassin
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mechmouse: email was the best option to get the widest spread of replies.
It was a targeted email though, to users they chose, apparently.
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Truth007: Not true, gwent is drm and online only. certain games that have multiplayer require galaxy so that is drm too.
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Truth007: several games have multiplayer that requires galaxy, so a portion of the game is drm'ed..
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vv221: Please, explain to me how to download, install and run Gwent without ever using Galaxy.
From Wiki:
"Gwent: The Witcher Card Game is a free-to-play online digital collectible card game"...free to play (meaning: you didn't have to spend a single cent on it!)...online (meaning: you have to be online to play it!)....
What the wiki doesn't say is that it's a MP game, as it is for two players.
Not one. Two. Online. Free to play. And Galaxy offers an easy solution to do that.

Maybe the two of you don't understand the concept of online MP, but quoting Gwent as an example of a game that is "hidden" behind DRM is pretty stupid.

Hey! You want to play Gwent without going online? Simple. Play The Witcher 3. It's contained in that SP(!) game as a mini-game.

If you want to play against human opponents - you have to bite the bullet and go online.
And spare me with bullshit statements like "but it should be playable offline!!!11!!"

What "should be" and what "is" are two different shoes.
Better get used to it, or else I can already guarantee you, this life won't be too pleasurable for you.
I wonder :

- If anybody isn't "one of their best customers".

- How many of these "best customers" ticked "Most of games I have I got as a free giveaways".
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BreOl72: Hey! You want to play Gwent without going online? Simple.
GWENT: Rogue Mage.
Post edited December 27, 2022 by SilentBleppassin
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Telika: I wonder :

- If anybody isn't "one of their best customers".
Well, I for instance didn't get mine so far. So maybe it really is narrowly selected group.

But to be fair wouldn't call myself "best customer", I don't spend much.
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vv221: Please, explain to me how to download, install and run Gwent without ever using Galaxy.
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BreOl72: From Wiki:
"Gwent: The Witcher Card Game is a free-to-play online digital collectible card game"...free to play (meaning: you didn't have to spend a single cent on it!)...online (meaning: you have to be online to play it!)....
What the wiki doesn't say is that it's a MP game, as it is for two players.
Not one. Two. Online. Free to play. And Galaxy offers an easy solution to do that.
Not sure why you are calling attention to it being "free" (as if the price has any bearing on whether content is locked behind DRM/client/online requirements or not). By the way, you may want to visit the GWENT game page and peruse the sidebar. This "free" game has DLCs on the scale of a Paradox (granted I did see at least one "free" one in there, to be fair). It should be obvious that the "free" GWENT game is a vehicle to get you to spend money. For your talk later in your post about how "that's just life", you seem here to be under the impression GWENT was made out of the goodness of CDPR's hearts to give us all free fun in perpetuity, rather than the far more likely reality that it is a vehicle to sell "DLC", two of which are priced at $69.99 (i.e. more than a AAA game!!).

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BreOl72: Maybe the two of you don't understand the concept of online MP, but quoting Gwent as an example of a game that is "hidden" behind DRM is pretty stupid.

Hey! You want to play Gwent without going online? Simple. Play The Witcher 3. It's contained in that SP(!) game as a mini-game.

If you want to play against human opponents - you have to bite the bullet and go online.
And spare me with bullshit statements like "but it should be playable offline!!!11!!"
Yes, spare the relevant objection that online-locked content has no place on a DRM-free store. If you want to play online games - you have to bite the bullet and go to Scheme or Epic Fail. Go there and keep it off of this store. Spare us!

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BreOl72: What "should be" and what "is" are two different shoes.
Better get used to it, or else I can already guarantee you, this life won't be too pleasurable for you.
"Shut up and settle" is not an argument.
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mechmouse: I would say putting it on the forum would have been "sneaking"

Sorry, but were the couple of hundred of us that regularly check the Forum are a tiny minority

A pop up on Galaxy would have got far more people, though would have been biased toward client users, so email was the best option to get the widest spread of replies.
How about throwing it into that often unused notification area?
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mechmouse: 5) Stop Stealth Day 1 releases. Why do some games get "Coming Soon" while others are complete radio silence until release day? Better support for those that do make through curation to help market their games. Too many devs/pubs spend a year going "IT COMING TO STEAM!!!" ignoring marketing their GOG release and then wonder why they get so few GOG sales.
Here's a 6:

6) Better invoicing for devs/publishers.

They shouldn't have to invoice GOG manually, it should be an automatic transaction which occurs quarterly, at the very least. It isn't like GOG can't keep track of what they're selling as a story.
Post edited December 27, 2022 by Darvond
i requested a humble choice like program where paying 9.99 a month would net you 8 games that are added to your account through a curated selection of AAA and indie games.
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Truth007: several games have multiplayer that requires galaxy, so a portion of the game is drm'ed.
That's true, yet singleplayer modes of majority of those games don't require it. I'm pretty sure that's because it's easier for developers to use GoG's api, so it's sorta understandable, still absolutely annoying though.

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mqstout: Also, your "that's just how companies operate" argument excuses any and all DRM, along with loot boxes, microtransactions, subscriptions...
No, it really doesn't. Not every company does that and we absolutely SHOULD oppose any that does this. But saying that it's the end of GoG because they put some useless trash behind their crappy launcher is just delusional.

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mechmouse: Have you played No Man's Sky? Try getting telling me something part of SP but remains triggered by a server connection doesn't impact "full playability". It totally does. There are simple bonuses outside of the larger server daily quests which could have been made available to offline customers easily but still remains gated behind online (and thus Galaxy) use.

GOG seemingly doesn't understand the issue or doesn't want to argue with its dev clients. Either way, DRM elements which make no sense being part of a SP game remain, small though they may be.
And am i talking about NMS? No, i wasn't, but i'm with NMS players 100%. It's bullshit, and we should criticize both GoG and Hello Games for this.
Post edited December 27, 2022 by Knightspace
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ChristophWr: Every game can be played without the launcher. Im not into conspirarcy stuff so i dont participate in this kinda threads
"DRM? On <i>my</i> GOG? It's more likely than you think."
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BreOl72: From Wiki:
"Gwent: The Witcher Card Game is a free-to-play online digital collectible card game"...free to play (meaning: you didn't have to spend a single cent on it!)...online (meaning: you have to be online to play it!)....
What the wiki doesn't say is that it's a MP game, as it is for two players.
Not one. Two. Online. Free to play. And Galaxy offers an easy solution to do that.
Are you really saying that it is OK for GOG to distribute games fully gated behind a DRM scheme as long as said game is online-only? Or that they can impose the use of Galaxy for the download of any free game?

And spare me the "easy solution" thing, I see DRM-free online multiplayer modes all around me developed by unpaid amateurs. The reliance on Galaxy/DRM is a choice, not a fatality.
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Slick_JMista: i requested a humble choice like program where paying 9.99 a month would net you 8 games that are added to your account through a curated selection of AAA and indie games.
I could not care less. I have about everything I am interested in and in the rest ... well ... in the rest I am not interested :D
Sure I have stuff on my wishlist waiting for a good price but looking at the GOG freebies I dare to say that I would only get doubles.
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BreOl72: From Wiki:
"Gwent: The Witcher Card Game is a free-to-play online digital collectible card game"...free to play (meaning: you didn't have to spend a single cent on it!)...online (meaning: you have to be online to play it!)....
What the wiki doesn't say is that it's a MP game, as it is for two players.
Not one. Two. Online. Free to play. And Galaxy offers an easy solution to do that.

Maybe the two of you don't understand the concept of online MP, but quoting Gwent as an example of a game that is "hidden" behind DRM is pretty stupid.

Hey! You want to play Gwent without going online? Simple. Play The Witcher 3. It's contained in that SP(!) game as a mini-game.

If you want to play against human opponents - you have to bite the bullet and go online.
And spare me with bullshit statements like "but it should be playable offline!!!11!!"

What "should be" and what "is" are two different shoes.
Better get used to it, or else I can already guarantee you, this life won't be too pleasurable for you.
So DRM-free multiplayer just isn't a thing? We're going to ignore the years of online gaming and how direct connections are still very possible, and say online play MUST include DRM?