Just bought Planescape Torment on Steam. I usually buy this type of game on GOG. I'm not really a big fan of Steam, but GOG seems to be going downhill with their sales. I'm not going to pay $10 bucks for a twenty year old game on sale at 50% off when I can get it on sale for $4 on Steam just so I can buy it on GOG. This is just one of many examples. I also think $8 for Jazz Jackrabbit isn't much of a sale price. You can buy some fantastic AAA games for less than $5 on sale. I am glad I bought so many games on GOG when they were much cheaper. Anyone else feel this way?

I think it's more ridiculous to be able to buy AAA games for $5.Depending on the game of course.

As for the Steam comparison, they make bank by sheer numbers of users and available games. Gog also has to make money somehow. And considering crpg interest has recently increased, having games like Torment on sale, but not too cheap kind of makes sense. Even if the game IS 20 years old, it's still gets referenced as one the best rpgs of all time on many sites all the time. Ultima 7 is also on those lists, but is listed at 89 cents US, currently.When you bought Torment may have something to do with the pricing.

On the other I do agree that some games that are decades old should have decent discounts. Whether or not Jackrabbit was popular when it came out, I don't think it's sought after that much now. But that might be the reason for it's small discount. You would probably buy that game only if you REALLY wanted it. As an example, I'd never buy that game if it was 50 cents. I'm willing to bet the number of sales of Jackrabbit wouldn't change much if they made the sale price lower

Well, you can buy here the game for 10$ or rent it from steam with 4$, good that we have options. And the worth price of a game it is up to you, for me , gog it is ok, not good, not bad, just ok, was better before? not sure, I had no money for games then.

And there is still GoGDB if you want to see price changes during last years. That also may help you in decide to wait or buy it elsewhere.

I've been a member of GOG for a little over a year, and their sales seem to be kind of off-the-wall with regard to consistency in sale prices. A game may be on sale for 75% off during one sale and then only 50% off the next time its on sale. For example, I believe I've seen games being sold in this Summer Sale at price points higher than what I paid during normal sales within the past year. I would expect these seasonal mega-sales to have the lowest price points of any sale, but that is not always the case. As another example, a base game (for example, Little Nightmares) may be on sale for 60% off, but the game's DLCs might be only 10% off.

Regarding the game you mentioned, Planescape: Torment: Enhanced Edition, GOG currently has it on sale at 50% ($9.99) and Steam has it on sale at 80% off ($3.99). The GOG version includes 2 HD wallpapers, 16 avatars, 104 artworks, Chris Avellone and Colin McComb book, and the unaltered original version of the game. I don't see any of those listed on the Steam product page. Many older games on GOG have those types of goodies bundled with the game, whereas Steam usually does not include them. Some people would see those goodies as a reason to pay a higher price on GOG. Whether or not you feel that way is, of course, your personal opinion and personal preference.

Regarding Jazz Jackrabbit, while that is an old game, Epic finally decided to release it on GOG last year, so it's still a relatively new release (of an old game). I wasn't happy about the price when they released it, but I still bought it upon release because I remember having fun with it back in the day (1994). I made the decision that, to me, it was worth the asking price, so I purchased it. I'm sure many other people did not think it was worth such a high price and did not purchase it.

One thing we don't know (or, at least, I don't know) is what is involved in determining the price (for example, who sets the price -- GOG, developers, or a mutual agreement). We also don't know who decides when a game goes on sale or who determines what the sale price will be. If the developer has significant input regarding price, which I suspect they do (since that's their income as well as GOG's), then the blame for higher-than-expected sale prices does not lie exclusively with GOG.

It kind of seems like Beamdog (who developed and publish the Enhanced Editions of those old D&D games) might have cooled on GOG a bit in the wake of all the overwrought nerdrage aimed at them over some of their decisions. They haven't even bothered to release Neverwinter Nights Enhanced Edition here yet, and now there's the large discrepancy in sale prices. Maybe neither of those means anything -- it's entirely probably that each (especially the current sale price discrepancy) has an entirely innocent reason behind it, but I wouldn't be surprised if Beamdog were sick of dealing with the GOG community's shit, and trying to subtly steer customers to Steam.
Or, maybe they just decided to give the Steam versions bigger discounts right now, and do the same for the GOG versions in a different promo in a couple months. Which is a common enough tactic.

The Jazz Jackrabbit games had never been available (legally) in digital form until they hit GOG about half a year ago. They are pretty much objectively overpriced, but there were also tons of people who'd been waiting for years and years for GOG or whoever to get them. If it turned out that almost nobody had been willing to pay that inflated price, Epic probably would've put a larger discount on them by now; but apparently, the games are performing well enough, sales-wise. "Nostalgia demand" is a powerful thing. :)

So, yeah. A couple of games you were interested in buying right now not having super deep discounts in this one sale does not indicate a general downward trend. ;)

EDIT: Shit, I got partially ninja'd by an even longer post than the one I composed. =D

The sales are not as good because you've probably bought all the games you want already. For example, I only took out 3 games this sale.

I agree though the biggest problem with "BeamDog" games at the moment is the completely pointless remakes that exist primarily for the sake of tripling prices of 10-20 year old games by taking free modding community content (widescreen patches, Tutu, etc) and passing them off as if it's 100% recent work of the developer... For a real laugh, see newer games like NWN:EE where the new version is actually more buggy than the originals, still hasn't fixed the few bugs that were in the originals, doesn't add widescreen (because it was already there), introduced new Depth of Field shaders (making everything look uglier), and for which you pay double on top of losing the soundtrack (that came free in the original version priced $2 in every sale...)

It's not just a GOG or even Beamdog problem though. Steam has its fair share of this cr*p too. Bioshock 1-2 "Remaster" and Age of Empires 2 "Enhanced" also leapt up in price on their re-release. The former UE3 based games are massively downvoted due to being abandoned with new newly introduced game-breaking bugs / save-game corruption that weren't in the UE2 originals, whilst half the improvements of the latter can be had for free via the modding community patch. Likewise AoE1:Definitive now locked to W10 / MS Store only is also laughably over-priced considering most of the improvements (W10 compatibility, widescreen, etc) again come from the free modding community created "upatch" and especially compared to the GOTY retail disc where you could buy AoE1 & 2 combined for less than half the price of either game on its own...

Steam vs GOG pricing has its issues, but ultimately if BeamDog had never made PT:EE, I don't doubt you would have still been able to buy the original here for typically $2.00-$2.50 in -80% off sales. But then that's why ripoff remakes exist - aside from doubling base pricing, because PT:EE, NWN:EE, etc, are clearly all "brand new 2016-2018 games", you'll also only get -50% off of $20 sale discount instead of typical -75-80% of $10, effectively quadrupling / quintupling it during sales...

Then it problem is that there is always sales going on. Daily sale, weekly, special, quarterly, anniversary. Not a day goes by without one. The games that get released, their prices are skyrocketing so that later on with a "sale" it looks like your getting a good deal. Just look at the mafia set for instance. With the "sale" they are the price they should have been at release. Still the dipshits from steam who have taken over here don't seem to care so nor should anyone else, just don't bother buying anything.

I just compared the price history of "Planescape Torment Enhanced Edition" on GOG and Steam for my region and they are very similar with GOG matching the price of Steam with a four months delay. Recently Steam went to $4. I would say it's likely that GOG will follow. Old games get cheaper all the time.

I don't agree with your general conclusions. GOG does not have much higher or lower prices than Steam on average. Judging the whole shop from a single sale price of a single game is probably not really justified.

I already own Planescape since many years. I couldn't care less who offers it now a bit cheaper. We are talking about $2 difference between sales prices anyway. (GOG offered it for $6.5 in April 2018).

Some old games have the same worth as newer games. Often even more. I would never buy a game for full price these days, but I would instantly pay $60 or more for an original boxed copy of Doom, Blood or Age of Empires for example.

Paying for the so called "Enhanced Edition" or "Redux" cash grabs is a mistake in the first place. "Look, we slapped huge resolution on a game that doesn't look well in it, didn't bother to scale the UI at all and applied a horrible filter that makes everything blurry. And we tripled the usual price BTW. Give us you money NOW!!!!". It can't be more obvious than that. Not even talking about the changes they usually make in these editions that make the games lose most of their original feel.


Also, as mentioned, check gogdb.org for games you are interested in. It might be worth it to wait a while if you see that a game is on sale for lower price regularly.

You're making way too many assumptions and attributing them to me, and then responding to those. (Straw Man?)

I am very patient. My comment was based on many sales coming and going. I "hunt" for sales all of the time and I do not feel "entitled to" them.

I cannot even begin to understand how you could think GOG sale prices are better. I don't agree with the Steam comparison either. We will just have to agree to disagree. I do agree that buying and playing games without game client software is better, but that only holds a certain amount of value. Especially since I can start and play games without going into the storefront.

This sale made me realized something. I now own almost all old games I want. Nearly the entirety of my wishlist is made of new releases.

GOG has changed the max discounts it used to offer on games of 75-90% to 30-50% on the same games. Some will become 75-90% discounted again but much of the time they aren't. For me it's not a real sale unless it hits near the all time low.

A game like Jazz Jackrabbit is effectively a new digital release, so that's understandable. What isn't understandable is games been 2-3 times as much as they were in other sales when I skipped them because I didn't want them yet.

I suppose plenty of customers aren't as price sensitive as me but anyone who is won't shop on GOG anymore.