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I see that there is now a clear concentrated effort from trolls to derail this thread.

To the mods credit they have shown remarkable restraint so far, but I thoroughly expect the forum staff to close this thread soon.

Given that GOG pr is completely ignoring the legitimate concerns of their paying customers I would expect them to delete the thread entirely in a vain attempt to try to make the matter go away.

I sincerely hope that I am proven wrong.

In any case, the response to our concerns has been too slow assuming that a response is even forthcoming at all. GOG's response to the outrage mob was immediate and profound. They have completely ignored their customers for longer than the two day multi forum apology tour they embarked on for the sole benefit of the social media activists and to everyone else's detriment.

GOG obviously has contempt for their customers and have thrown in with the sojus lot.

By now, any statement on this matter will mean nothing to me. It's too late GOG. Pleasure doing business with you.

At that I no longer have any vested interest suffice to say that I hope gamers and consumers keep the pressure up on GOG if only so they cannot forget the mistake they have made here and to discontinue any and all financial support to GOG.com and CDProjekt. I will be sure to tell everyone why they shouldn't support GOG.com.

It is imperative that other game distributors, developers, and providers be given a chance to avoid making the mistake Good Old Games has failed to learn from by way of the example we set.

Farewell.
Post edited July 22, 2018 by eVinceW21
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devoras: It's the implications of the tweet. If gog is supporting sjws who want to destroy gaming.
GOG is not supporting SWJs that want to destroy gaming, that would be counter productive to a games vendor.
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Fairfox: ^^ i liek its only "ignorin' customers" when it goes against grain
they aint ignorin' me
To be fair, your rather "unique" way of typing makes you impossible to ignore. :P

That and the somewhat creepy avatar pic.
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devoras: It's the implications of the tweet. If gog is supporting sjws who want to destroy gaming.
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wpegg: GOG is not supporting SWJs that want to destroy gaming, that would be counter productive to a games vendor.
You mean like destroying star wars was counter productive to disney ?
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wpegg: GOG is not supporting SWJs that want to destroy gaming, that would be counter productive to a games vendor.
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ashtonx: You mean like destroying star wars was counter productive to disney ?
They seem to have done rather well out of that. I'm not suggesting art is the motivator, just that "destroying" is not a useful term.
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ashtonx: You mean like destroying star wars was counter productive to disney ?
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wpegg: They seem to have done rather well out of that. I'm not suggesting art is the motivator, just that "destroying" is not a useful term.
Solo did bomb at the box office.
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wpegg: They seem to have done rather well out of that. I'm not suggesting art is the motivator, just that "destroying" is not a useful term.
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Yeshu: Solo did bomb at the box office.
Sounds like they're pursuing art over SWJ opinions.
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ashtonx: You mean like destroying star wars was counter productive to disney ?
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wpegg: They seem to have done rather well out of that. I'm not suggesting art is the motivator, just that "destroying" is not a useful term.
And that's why director is blaming gamergate ? :D
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ashtonx: And that's why director is blaming gamergate ? :D
EDIT: fuckit - the important point is that you can. You can fart in the face of someone if you want, and that person can walk away. Equally so you can wank directly in front of someone and that person can have you arrested.

It's all about freedom, not our freedom to do what we want, but your freedom to restrict what we want, and to demand what we want. Others need to understand that what we want is a variable set of demands which if not met will require justification. We aren't just here to work our asses off, we are here to see our needs met, and it's about time the "Elise" met our demands.

I can go on, and will go on if needed, because this is impotent, it's about gamers needing something they aren't getting, wont get, and are hurt by it.
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ashtonx: And that's why director is blaming gamergate ? :D
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wpegg: What the you talking about? You said, quote: "You mean like destroying star wars was counter productive to disney". I responded regarding how it didn't hurt disney, and they actually were fine with it.

EDIT: we're talking about SOLO here:
Your answer makes no sense, none. It's really weird.
I'm talking about whole franchise.
http://archive.is/fR5bo#selection-3729.0-3729.12

Solo is just first one to fall. Ultimate cause was ep8...

Don't expect further ones to do any better if this keeps up.
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kongxinga: This grovelling to the new censors is disappointing, and you are making steam look good. Please, please, learn from your mistakes and never attack your customers again. GG is a complicated topic and I don't blame you for making mistakes on it, but when was it ever a good idea to attack your customers in favor of a few vocal complainers that probably don't buy your product?
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StingingVelvet: If you never harassed or abused anyone then they did not attack you. They separated themselves from the harassment wing of GamerGate which is widely promoted by the press, that's all. You guys are taking this stuff way too seriously.
That pretty much goes without saying. I, and I suspect most people here, the gamers, just want to play games. If I don't like a game, I just don't play it. If I don't like a tweet, I navigate away. I don't do moral outrage in order to pressure devs or publishers to remove content I don't like, which is what the other side (don't know what to call them, I use the new censors to distinguish them from the old church ladies censors) had done with this tweet and the constant attack till the grovelling apologetics. The grovelling makes we think GoG won't advocate for gamer friendly content as strongly as I would like, which is why I speak up.

And I respect your views, but the reason I think it is an attack on gamers as a whole is this whole "Gamers are dead, make games that mostly include content they don't like" slew of articles that this very removed tweet was referencing (Postal dude urinating on the tombstone with a specific date corresponding to when the articles came out). The new censors have attacked gamers as a whole as seen in the "gamers are dead " (note not "harassers are dead") articles, and when called out, immediately say "I wasn't attacking you, I was attacking the harassers", despite the content of the articles clearly being attacking gamers who just won't go the way the new censors want.

Leaving aside that 1. who hasn't been harassed or received death threats on the internet 2. and that some of the threats appear to be crude false flags (akin to the "hate crimes" explosion in the recent years of people running out of their supply of bigots, and taking to drawing fake swastikas themselves to make up for the lack of supply. These fake hate crimes are well documented and have resulted in multiple arrests of the people filing false police reports of the fake hate crimes), this is a pretty low tactic. Attack gamers as a whole, then when confronted, retreat to "I was only attacking the harassers", despite that much of the harassment seems false flagged. I think the rhetorical term is motte and bailey, ie attack gamers who buy the stuff the censors don't like, then retreat to the defensible position of saying you were only attacking the harassers.

Not saying you are employing it, you seem to be bringing a point in good faith. But those coordinated "gamers are dead" articles attacked gamers, not harrassers (else their content should be on the harrassers), which is why I think there is strong evidence their target is those who won't go with the censorship.

P.S I bought up the Toys R Us attacking their own customer base by their support for abortion as one of the most mind boggling examples of a company not thinking things through, probably contributing to their demise. I mean, kids buy toys (more specifically, drive mom and dad to buy them), you want more of them right? Nope, let's kill them off. Someone pointed out that he did not like the topic, so I would like to make it clear that I am not advocating either way on this (abortion), only as a easily memorable example of a company digging its own grave by directly attacking the customer base. In retrospect, maybe if Phillip Morris started calling smokers losers (which they have not, hence Toys R Us) and putting extra chemicals in cigarettes to kill off smokers faster, we could use that as an example. However, Phillip Morris is more shrewd than Toys R Us, and doesn't attack their customer base, hence my choice of example. I would hate for Gog to go down the route of Toys R Us. Gog in this incident just failed to do their best job standing up for their customer base, so its far from a Toys R Us. I hope by speaking here that they learn from the incident and do better next time. I can handle my own affairs, but it would be nice if GoG could help.

PPS. Some people are questioning bona fides, saying its a raid from 4chan or something. Like I said, you can check out my and other profiles on the left. This feels like the "everyone I don't like is a nazi russian bot" meme in news these days.
Post edited July 23, 2018 by kongxinga
and for my part I would appreciate to bought games here and do not boycott Cyberpunk 2077
looking with a bad taste at my Witcher games

and this situation is Incredible
We are completely ignored after free insults.
Just like this. Without any reason.
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Thisis why I buy from Steam. They take stand against SJW censorship. GOG just grovels and begs forgiveness.