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Lifthrasil: Offline installers will get less and less updates until eventually they will be discontinued as unwanted relic from the past.
If that happens, then it's goodbye for GOG.
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M3troid: If that happens, then it's goodbye for GOG.
I'm not so sure about that. GOG has been transitioning in that direction for a long time.

Their strategy seems to be: to attract enough new customers who come to GOG because they want to have all of their games, including DRM-ed games from other stores, in their Galaxy client.

And the second step of that strategy seems to be for GOG to act as the middleman who sells DRM'ed games from other stores via GOG. They've already signed a deal to do that with EGS.

No doubt they'd also love to - and are very eager to - sign similar deals with Activision Blizzard, Ubisoft, EA, and every other big publisher that exists.

Most likely, once GOG has enough new customers from those sources (that's assuming their plan works, which it may well not), then they won't care any more about their previous customers who want DRM-free.

At that point, DRM-free on GOG will become a rarity and an optional feature, rather than a mandatory requirement (it's already not a requirement for some games).
Post edited February 15, 2021 by Ancient-Red-Dragon
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M3troid: If that happens, then it's goodbye for GOG.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: I'm not so sure about that. GOG has been transitioning in that direction for a long time.

Their strategy seems to be: to attract enough new customers who come to GOG because they want to have all of their games, including DRM-ed games from other stores, in their Galaxy client.

And the second step of that strategy seems to be for GOG to act as the middleman who sells DRM'ed games from other stores via GOG. They've already signed a deal to do that with EGS.

No doubt they'd also love to - and are very eager to - sign similar deals with Activision Blizzard, Ubisoft, EA, and every other big publisher that exists.

Most likely, once GOG has enough new customers from those sources (that's assuming their plan works, which it may well not), then they won't care any more about their previous customers who want DRM-free.

At that point, DRM-free on GOG will become a rarity and an optional feature, rather than a mandatory requirement (it's already not a requirement for some games).
What i mean is that i'll say badbye to GOG and never come back.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: I'm not so sure about that. GOG has been transitioning in that direction for a long time.

Their strategy seems to be: to attract enough new customers who come to GOG because they want to have all of their games, including DRM-ed games from other stores, in their Galaxy client.

And the second step of that strategy seems to be for GOG to act as the middleman who sells DRM'ed games from other stores via GOG. They've already signed a deal to do that with EGS.

No doubt they'd also love to - and are very eager to - sign similar deals with Activision Blizzard, Ubisoft, EA, and every other big publisher that exists.

Most likely, once GOG has enough new customers from those sources (that's assuming their plan works, which it may well not), then they won't care any more about their previous customers who want DRM-free.

At that point, DRM-free on GOG will become a rarity and an optional feature, rather than a mandatory requirement (it's already not a requirement for some games).
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M3troid: What i mean is that i'll say badbye to GOG and never come back.
Just leave now, the writing is on the wall.
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M3troid: What i mean is that i'll say badbye to GOG and never come back.
Do you really think that if they stop maintaining the offline installers, they will announce it publicly? What benefit could they have of doing that? If they decide to stop, and I'm not saying they did, it would make much more sense for them just to stop updating them, without saying anything. For one thing, you will continue buying...
Post edited February 15, 2021 by mrkgnao
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M3troid: If that happens, then it's goodbye for GOG.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: I'm not so sure about that. GOG has been transitioning in that direction for a long time.

Their strategy seems to be: to attract enough new customers who come to GOG because they want to have all of their games, including DRM-ed games from other stores, in their Galaxy client.
Same with youtube, twitter, etc. Instead of censorship, it's DRM, though. Same basic idea, though: lie until in a position of power, then show your true colors (Sahih Bukhari Volume 3, Book 49, Number 857; Qu'ran 017:064; Qu'ran 009:003; Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 67, Number 427).

And no, i'm not too concerned about islam at the moment, just thought those quotes seemed a bit accurate regarding these corporations.
And the second step of that strategy seems to be for GOG to act as the middleman who sells DRM'ed games from other stores via GOG. They've already signed a deal to do that with EGS.
What's this? What info do you have on this?
No doubt they'd also love to - and are very eager to - sign similar deals with Activision Blizzard, Ubisoft, EA, and every other big publisher that exists.

Most likely, once GOG has enough new customers from those sources (that's assuming their plan works, which it may well not), then they won't care any more about their previous customers who want DRM-free.

At that point, DRM-free on GOG will become a rarity and an optional feature, rather than a mandatory requirement (it's already not a requirement for some games).
Then why not go to steam? Steam has far, far more support. The only thing i can see that GOG has over steam is DRM-free. And even steam has some DRM-free games. In reality, i'd be more likely to go to itch than anything. If gog goes out but itch stays clean, there's a market to be had in itch curation via availability lists. Right now, it'd simply a matter of being way, way too much work for too little gain when we have most coming to gog in lieu of itch.

And the second step of that strategy seems to be for GOG to act as the middleman who sells DRM'ed games from other stores via GOG. They've already signed a deal to do that with EGS.
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kohlrak: What's this? What info do you have on this?
That's nothing new. It was announced last year and it created a big debacle. And it also brought out a bunch of GOG apologists who said things like it's no big deal, don't worry about it, everything is fine, just overlook it.

But one wonders how long they can hold that line for. What about when there are 5 huge publishers selling DRM'ed games on GOG? I wonder if they will say that should be overlooked too?

It seems they don't realize that this is how DRM-free becomes extinct, little by little, gradually, one step at a time.

I think GOG is counting on most of their customers not to notice or call out the steps as they occur.
Post edited February 15, 2021 by Ancient-Red-Dragon
Like I said, just bail on GOG and stop spending money here, GOG is finished, done for, kaput, we are just waiting for the rest of the body to die here.

Leave now, migrate to itch.io or zoom platform, or somewhere else.

The clock is ticking.
It's been spoken of many times about how offline patches are aggravating to make, and there are usually delays. Most of the games on the linked list above seem to be smaller indie titles I've never heard of, which likely get less focus. Lots of assumptions about what a longer delay means during a pandemic and bad time for CDP, in my opinion.

That said yes it is obvious GOG are focusing more and more on Galaxy. Unlike many of you though, I don't think that means DRM necessarily, so it doesn't scare me much. They have promised offline installers will always be there though, and going back on that promise would be a big deal.
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StingingVelvet: It's been spoken of many times about how offline patches are aggravating to make, and there are usually delays. Most of the games on the linked list above seem to be smaller indie titles I've never heard of, which likely get less focus. Lots of assumptions about what a longer delay means during a pandemic and bad time for CDP, in my opinion.

That said yes it is obvious GOG are focusing more and more on Galaxy. Unlike many of you though, I don't think that means DRM necessarily, so it doesn't scare me much. They have promised offline installers will always be there though, and going back on that promise would be a big deal.
That is assuming that GOG is being honest of course.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: At that point, DRM-free on GOG will become a rarity and an optional feature, rather than a mandatory requirement (it's already not a requirement for some games).
And at that point it will become just another redundant Steam like platform, the DRM free principle was the only reason GOG was successful at all.

Without a market niche to carve out, there's no reason to use Galaxy over Steam, EGS and the like and they'll die like they deserve to.
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StingingVelvet: That said yes it is obvious GOG are focusing more and more on Galaxy. Unlike many of you though, I don't think that means DRM necessarily, so it doesn't scare me much. They have promised offline installers will always be there though, and going back on that promise would be a big deal.
You assume they'll keep their promise. However, if no one reacts to increased delays to updates in offline installers, eventually GOG will decide that they are indeed redundant and will remove them. The time to protest is now otherwise if no one does (or very few), GOG will inevitably eradicate the extra hassle of maintaining offline installers because no one (or very few) care about them.
@OP. you shoulda wrote "GOG support, Y U NO ANSWER MY MAELZ!?" as the thread title, that might've expedited getting a reply from the blues. xD
Post edited February 15, 2021 by fronzelneekburm
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if you dont like this store you should make your own , probably that's what we should do
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Orkhepaj: if you dont like this store you should make your own , probably that's what we should do
Who said I don't like the store? The reason I am trying to get things improved is BECAUSE I like it.
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StingingVelvet: It's been spoken of many times about how offline patches are aggravating to make, and there are usually delays. Most of the games on the linked list above seem to be smaller indie titles I've never heard of, which likely get less focus. Lots of assumptions about what a longer delay means during a pandemic and bad time for CDP, in my opinion.
It also has been pointed out that offline installers are created automatically if everything went all right ... so pandemic or not, I can't see any reason why there should be a problem getting the offline installer updates at least a few days after galaxy has been updated.
Post edited February 15, 2021 by MarkoH01